I have no idea how expensive these things are but my vote would honestly be to invest money in a good coach/ physio to guide your loading and structure your programming and provide an outside voice to challenge your own biases in how you approach things. I think that is more promising in the long run. I am not saying you’re necessarily doing things wrong but some guidance can do wonders for these kind of reoccuring issues, as they seem to be related to load management strategies more than anything else. Obviously depending on the coach and all.
I have no experience with either of those compounds. I could imagine it might help the elbow but am not familiar with what is so far available in terms of robust evidence. In my country the use of these would be illegal, no idea if that is a criterium or if it is different in the UK.
Just to clarify, that is not a judgement. I couldn’t care less about this stuff. I am just mentioning it because I have met people who seemed to be confused about this and thought those were fair game in the eyes of the law.
You’re arching your back too much and pulling your shoulders back too much when you press and bench and stuff. This shoulder position stretches out your tricep. Then you press, straightening your arm and contracting your tricep, while it’s stretched. You’re feelinbg your elbow and the back of your shoulder because that’s where your stretched and beat up tricep attaches.
I haven’t seen you curl, but I imagine it’s the same. Your whack right shoulder is subtlety pulled back and elevated, or shrugged and retracted, so your bicep is stretched to shit at the bottom of the curl.
The solution is to not arch so much. Get your ribs flatter on the bench for incline and overheads and benches. Lighten up the load and Protract or push your shoulders forward at the top on DB bench. Maybe do landmine press or hindu squats to get used to the arching, shoulder protracting, serratus targeting style of pressing.
Think about something like this, moving your shoulder through internal and external rotation, without compensating by arching your back, flare your ribs, and lifting off the floor.
@alex_uk roll your tricep out on the sleeve of an unloaded barrel. Treat it like you would a foam roller. If you can barely put pressure before you want to cry, then you’ve found a problem spot. If my elbow pain is in the back near the triceps insertion then this helps. If my pain is more on the front like tennis elbow then I have a forearm problem.
First of all, let me just say, you lot suck, I want to use dodgy street drugs that haven’t passed medical scrutiny yet, which probably won’t help, instead of doing the necessary work to resolve my issues. I wanted a quick fix drug not work!
More acute injury than inflammation or chronic injury?
That’s a good place to be, and I don’t feel like training controls my life, it doesn’t give me any sense of anxiety to postpone a session. I’d like to keep schedule, but generally life always happens.
Yesterday for instance life happened and instead of training, I ate 15 donuts (competition on station, I could have kept going but we ran out of jam and only had chocolate left, which aren’t good - used @QuadQueen advice to stop when you’re not enjoying it - see I listened, I only ate 15 donuts, that’s what you meant right?).
I must say I quite enjoyed my time pre cruise of just going in and lifting something, no prescription no rep range or %age to worry about.
I’m 100% commited to running BtM as written and then running super squats as written, I’m loathed to push it back now I’ve started, but life might force it anyway. Confirmed for sure yesterday that MiL is terminal, not even something that chemo will slow. Kitchen now looks like this:
Got to mention my awesome son here, had an operation booked to remove a tumour in his eyebrow, benign but needed removing as it’s growing (Pilomatricoma), they originally booked general, had a phone call morning yesterday, day of the surgery, problem with the anaesthetist, would he be happy with general, yea that’s fine… The general didn’t work particularly well and he yelped on the incision, but was completely chill with the rest of the procedure, now has as second eyebrow scar, I think he’s heard that women like scars!
The drugs are definitely cheaper (and not illegal in the UK, neither are PEDs) but it’s definitely a better idea.
Never took it as such, appreciate the concern.
Interesting, that was intentional in the bench and just what happens with the press, didn’t even think that it could be related to my shoulder issues.
Thank you I’ll switch style and move forward with that.
Just to double check you mean without arching my lower back I should then flare my ribs or that I shouldn’t flare my ribs or lift anything off the floor?
This is more like it, very much a pain in my forearm part of my elbow radiating downwards.
This is awesome, but no chocolate? Too rich for an eating comp?
I know the feeling. I put of Built For Battle for ages and then hurt myself in week 3. I was enjoying it, but big barbell lifts are out for awhile. I don’t like it, but I’ll survive.
Sorry to hear this.
Back to this. The clinic I go to for my blood work and prescriptions of enclomiphene and sermorelin also has BPC-157. The enclomiphene is supposed to increase my testosterone production (it worked, up to 1400 from 590) and the sermorelin is supposed to increase my GH production. I took somatropin a few years ago (synthetic GH). I’m not sure if it’s their duty because GH is illegal, or if it’s the truth, but my doc recommends the sermorelin over the synthetic GH because it’s created in a lab and meets certain criteria whereas the illegal stuff may not.
If they to say BPC-157 helps with injuries, then I think you can add some clinical weight to the bro talk about the stuff. Unfortunately, buying these things through a legal clinic is more expensive than the old fashioned way.
Revisiting my values this morning, have been wallowing a little and letting things slip over the last few weeks, revisiting my values helps me see where I need course correction - I’m slipping in every single area so time to stop the self pity and refocus, whether you believe in devine providence, or cosmic fluke - life is still something you have to chose to actively work at, or else it slips by, I still love this quote from House:
Dying people lie too. Wish they’d worked less, been nicer, opened orphanages for kittens. If you really want to do something, you do it. You don’t save it for a sound bite
What this means for training and diet is that I’ll postpone my plans MIL has been given weeks to months so won’t have her around much longer, my wife is at the hospital every single day and I need to support her first and foremost, particularly as she is her dad’s primary support.
Training will be whatever I can squeeze in, it’ll go back to post cruise - train whatever feels good and ready to train. Diet wise I’ve eaten like an absolute douche for the last month and that doesn’t align with my values. The focus will be just to get back to healthy choices, low/no sugar or processed crap with the occasional family night deviations. Not looking to lose it gain at the moment - don’t need to do either.
Just keeping things simple for the next few months, I’ll try and incorporate some of the suggestions above to try and improve elbow so that when BtM is back on the cards it doesn’t let me down.
I also really want to play with sandbags a bit more, I enjoy training with them, haven’t really played much with the bigger ones yet, looking forward to that.
Need to get back to walking, that always has a positive impact and good for stress levels as well.
Funny story, we had a fairly new recruit, and a guy leaving bought in 3 trays of 12 donuts and he looked at them and went I could easily eat a tray of those, so I tossed him the tray and said go on then… He got to 8 before feeling sick and giving up.
I responded with some friendly mocking, and said I’d show him how it was done post cruise, so 12 was the goal, I bought enough for 5 others who were up for the challenge, a couple dropped out around the 6/7 mark leaving some more for me!
Good news for the guy who previously failed, he redeemed himself and got 17!
Yup that’s what the new recruit failed on first time, it wouldn’t have been good with chocolate, we had some on the table but honestly I did deliberately avoid them.
Yea I was being a little tongue in cheek with my description of it, I’m sure it’s fine and I’m happy to do science experiments on myself, within limits, so I won’t rule it out but not much point if it wouldn’t help.
Quick life update, had a busy few days, had a very intense incident that I was in charge of an incident in which my decision making could have either potentially have landed me in prison or saved 2 lives, very happily for me I made a good call and we saved 2 lives. Making genuinely life or death decision is a first for me since becoming an incident commander and a really great outcome.
That’s the high, now for the low this morning my Mother in Law went to be with the Lord. She had a short illness and was surrounded by her closest family when she died, peacefully.
Life will probably be a little bit chaotic with grief, visiting family, funerals, the house being a building site etc, and has been chaotic since the last update. I look forward to some more normal circumstances, the iron will be waiting for me when that happens.
I am just mentioning it because I have met people who seemed to be confused about this and thought those were fair game in the eyes of the law.
