[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
Everyone has different morals. Some psycho ass killaz may be against killing young children and some may not be. Or just look at professional killaz. What they do is fucked up according to most people, but to them, they just killin’ corrupt bastards anyway, so its no big deal.
When you’re drunk, and I mean really fuckin wasted, I don’t care who you are, you are not 100% in control of your actions. You’re still responsible for them though, but chances are, you’re likely gonna do something that’s immoral(according to your own beliefs of course), than when you’re sober.[/quote]
you’re saying that I can tell my girlfriend that since I was wasted when I nailed that bar skank, then I should get a pass?[/quote]
well, since it’s you Edgy, yes … you SHOULD get a pass
I don’t think that’s what he was saying but on that subject, a lot of guys use being drunk as an excuse for infidelity as if being drunk completely nullifies any wrong doing
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
Everyone has different morals. Some psycho ass killaz may be against killing young children and some may not be. Or just look at professional killaz. What they do is fucked up according to most people, but to them, they just killin’ corrupt bastards anyway, so its no big deal.
When you’re drunk, and I mean really fuckin wasted, I don’t care who you are, you are not 100% in control of your actions. You’re still responsible for them though, but chances are, you’re likely gonna do something that’s immoral(according to your own beliefs of course), than when you’re sober.[/quote]
you’re saying that I can tell my girlfriend that since I was wasted when I nailed that bar skank, then I should get a pass?[/quote]
well, since it’s you Edgy, yes … you SHOULD get a pass
I don’t think that’s what he was saying but on that subject, a lot of guys use being drunk as an excuse for infidelity as if being drunk completely nullifies any wrong doing[/quote]
Not what I was tryna say at all. I said you are still responsible for your actions BUT drinking does take some control of your body.
And on Polo’s point, I agree. I think being drunk makes you wanna say and do shit that you really wanna say/do but afraid to say/do because it is not morally correct.
And that being said, you are completely responsible for whatever takes place when you’re wasted.
THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE ALONE, AND IN NO WAY REPRESENTS OTHER DUDES
That being said:
Yes.
My morals and principals were more easily cast aside while drunk. That includes women, gambling, food, women, driving, getting in fights, allowing fights to take place, women, cheating at golf, and women.
Probably the main reason why I don’t let myself get out of hand anymore. Just isn’t worth it. Fun while it lasted, but also carried a lot of “awww fuck” moments too.
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
Everyone has different morals. Some psycho ass killaz may be against killing young children and some may not be. Or just look at professional killaz. What they do is fucked up according to most people, but to them, they just killin’ corrupt bastards anyway, so its no big deal.
When you’re drunk, and I mean really fuckin wasted, I don’t care who you are, you are not 100% in control of your actions. You’re still responsible for them though, but chances are, you’re likely gonna do something that’s immoral(according to your own beliefs of course), than when you’re sober.[/quote]
you’re saying that I can tell my girlfriend that since I was wasted when I nailed that bar skank, then I should get a pass?[/quote]
well, since it’s you Edgy, yes … you SHOULD get a pass
I don’t think that’s what he was saying but on that subject, a lot of guys use being drunk as an excuse for infidelity as if being drunk completely nullifies any wrong doing[/quote]
Haha she should not only give him a pass, she should give him a trophy or a medal or something to hang on the fridge. Actually call Guiness, you might have a world record for being the first Ginger viking that smells of onions and cat feces to ever get laid by a bar skank.
I’m too much of a self conscious basket case to do karaoke, drunk or sober. I can’t imagine doing something like that. My wife and her friends love it though. Her sister even has a karaoke machine at home.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
that is a great illustration, Brad.
In your estimation, if you were confronted with a situation that would make you compromise your principals, would that compromise be easier due to your ingestion of alcohol?
to compromise your morals after the ingestion of alcohol, would you not insist that your moral strand is weak at best? and if that is the case, then your morals while you are sober may not be the morals that you believe in yourself, but are morals that have been thrust upon you.
to compromise your morals after the ingestion of alcohol, would you not insist that your moral strand is weak at best? and if that is the case, then your morals while you are sober may not be the morals that you believe in yourself, but are morals that have been thrust upon you.
Amirong?[/quote]
I agree, I think that people who say “oh well it was because I was drunk” are rationalizing. I don’t care one way or another what someone does when they’re drunk, but it bothers me if they complain about the consequences. Drunk or sober, you’re responsible for your actions. And maybe your actions when you’re drunk should cause you to consider what you consider moral acts.
to compromise your morals after the ingestion of alcohol, would you not insist that your moral strand is weak at best? and if that is the case, then your morals while you are sober may not be the morals that you believe in yourself, but are morals that have been thrust upon you.
Amirong?[/quote]
hmmm interesting, however I would not be able to even read this after a few drinks.
My morals go down the drain when I am drunk, so maybe I have none. However, I have been able to function well and productively in society without harming, molesting, robbing or killing anyone, so I must have some moral compass.
This is why I don’t drink.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Can someone be drunk and still act within his or her own set of morals? Prolly not.[/quote]
I used to steal shit when I was drunk. Then I got sick of being an immature dick and I put a stop to it by just concentrating on not stealing. I developed a mantra to help me.
Now I don’t steal but I still will do the occasional stupid thing.
But you do get better at how in control you are when you are drunk, you get better at monitoring your intake, assuming you are not an addict I guess even if there will still be slip ups.
to compromise your morals after the ingestion of alcohol, would you not insist that your moral strand is weak at best? and if that is the case, then your morals while you are sober may not be the morals that you believe in yourself, but are morals that have been thrust upon you.
Amirong?[/quote]
I ain’t insisting shit!
I’ll do the thrusting around here!
Look,
I consider myself a stand-up dude, but a dude none-the-less. A human animal with balls and testosterone and an urge to satisfy the part of the brain that desires immediate satisfaction. No matter what standard I hold myself to, be it integrity, honesty, courage, accountability, committment, it’s all been challenged, modified, re-addressed, and tackled over and over. Many times while I was in the throws of a substantial drinking problem. The moral code I live under is the one I’ve ultimately chose based on prior events and or damage I did to myself and or others both physically and emotionally. So, it’s only lately where I feel that if I’m going to fall back on some morals that there’ll actually be something there to hold me up. All through my 20’s I was swingin’ in the breeze, mostly of my own doing but swingin’ all the same.
