[quote]orion wrote:
However, blame Israel to draw attention away from your domestic problems, blame Iran to draw attention away from your domestic problems…[/quote]
Or maybe talk of annihilating a nation’s leadership is simply newsworthy.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
However, blame Israel to draw attention away from your domestic problems, blame Iran to draw attention away from your domestic problems…[/quote]
Or maybe talk of annihilating a nation’s leadership is simply newsworthy.[/quote]
He wants to destroy what he claims is the dominant ideology of this leadership, there is a difference.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
However, blame Israel to draw attention away from your domestic problems, blame Iran to draw attention away from your domestic problems…[/quote]
Or maybe talk of annihilating a nation’s leadership is simply newsworthy.[/quote]
He wants to destroy what he claims is the dominant ideology of this leadership, there is a difference. [/quote]
Does he now? He’s just looking for a metaphorical annihilation. A battle of ideas. Damn, Orion, for a minute you were believably anti-war instead of an apologist. Didn’t we just get done agreeing the words were meant as a threat? That pandering, red-meat, “but he can’t actually carry it out” bit we just went through? Now he simply meant the annihilation of ideology through hug-ins and civil protest. Like a Martin Luther King figure.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
However, blame Israel to draw attention away from your domestic problems, blame Iran to draw attention away from your domestic problems…[/quote]
Or maybe talk of annihilating a nation’s leadership is simply newsworthy.[/quote]
He wants to destroy what he claims is the dominant ideology of this leadership, there is a difference. [/quote]
Does he now? He’s just looking for a metaphorical annihilation. A battle of ideas. Damn, Orion, for a minute you were believably anti-war instead of an apologist. Didn’t we just get done agreeing the words were meant as a threat? That pandering, red-meat, “but he can’t actually carry it out” bit we just went through? Now he simply meant the annihilation of ideology through hug-ins and civil protest. Like a Martin Luther King figure.
[/quote]
And again:
He compared the “Zionist Regime” “disappearing from the pages of time” to the Sowjet Union and the regime of the Sha.
Expressis verbis.
Both toppled without too much bloodshed,
BUT, EVEN IF he called for violence, which is something you would have to divine back into his speech, he would have no means to make that true for anyone.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
However, blame Israel to draw attention away from your domestic problems, blame Iran to draw attention away from your domestic problems…[/quote]
Or maybe talk of annihilating a nation’s leadership is simply newsworthy.[/quote]
He wants to destroy what he claims is the dominant ideology of this leadership, there is a difference. [/quote]
Does he now? He’s just looking for a metaphorical annihilation. A battle of ideas. Damn, Orion, for a minute you were believably anti-war instead of an apologist. Didn’t we just get done agreeing the words were meant as a threat? That pandering, red-meat, “but he can’t actually carry it out” bit we just went through? Now he simply meant the annihilation of ideology through hug-ins and civil protest. Like a Martin Luther King figure.
[/quote]
And again:
He compared the “Zionist Regime” “disappearing from the pages of time” to the Sowjet Union and the regime of the Sha.
Expressis verbis.
Both toppled without too much bloodshed,
BUT, EVEN IF he called for violence, which is something you would have to divine back into his speech, he would have no means to make that true for anyone.
[/quote]
I sure hope you’re charging him an arm and a leg.
Actions speak louder than words or some such…?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Actions speak louder than words or some such…?[/quote]
Like funding Hezbollah? Not in a metaphorical, poetic, way either.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
You excused his wording as a pandering. What was he pandering to in the audience, Orion? [/quote]
Their hate for Israel of course.
[/quote]
Don’t you mean to say “strictly their hate for the ideology of the ZIONIST REGIME!, of course.”
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Actions speak louder than words or some such…?[/quote]
Like funding Hezbollah? Not in a metaphorical, poetic, way either.
[/quote]
You can prove that he did that and also prove that he gave orders to Hezbollah to carry out specific missions?
Giving money to a political organization is not a crime.
I am sure you have donated money to murdering republicans before.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
You excused his wording as a pandering. What was he pandering to in the audience, Orion? [/quote]
Their hate for Israel of course.
[/quote]
Don’t you mean to say “strictly their hate for the ideology of the ZIONIST REGIME!, of course.”
[/quote]
Na, they hate Israel, and most likely, the joooooos, too.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Actions speak louder than words or some such…?[/quote]
Like funding Hezbollah? Not in a metaphorical, poetic, way either.
[/quote]
You can prove that he did that and also prove that he gave orders to Hezbollah to carry out specific missions?
Giving money to a political organization is not a crime.
I am sure you have donated money to murdering republicans before.[/quote]
There’s a new fad called google I hear. But within .4 seconds of a search I got this.
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
Well, Ahmie’s own news service apparently thought it carried the same threat. Seeing as they published the translation as ‘wiped of the map.’ But hey, what do they know. Could be Zionist plants in his organization. Back to the Ahmie Baywatch, hamburger, love-in.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
When you learned the tooth fairy was made up was there blood?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
Well, Ahmie’s own news service apparently thought it carried the same threat. Seeing as they published the translation as ‘wiped of the map.’ But hey, what do they know. Could be Zionist plants in his organization. Back to the Ahmie Baywatch, hamburger, love-in.
[/quote]
Na, that was the NYT translation.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
Well, Ahmie’s own news service apparently thought it carried the same threat. Seeing as they published the translation as ‘wiped of the map.’ But hey, what do they know. Could be Zionist plants in his organization. Back to the Ahmie Baywatch, hamburger, love-in.
[/quote]
Na, that was the NYT translation.
[/quote]
http://web.archive.org/web/20070927213903/http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
Well, Ahmie’s own news service apparently thought it carried the same threat. Seeing as they published the translation as ‘wiped of the map.’ But hey, what do they know. Could be Zionist plants in his organization. Back to the Ahmie Baywatch, hamburger, love-in.
[/quote]
Na, that was the NYT translation.
[/quote]
http://web.archive.org/web/20070927213903/http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247
[/quote]
Alright, still a mistranslation, because he is quoting Khomeini who said that the regime of the Sha should disappear.
Unless you are willing to consider that Khomeini wanted to wipe Iran “off the map” this translation is obvious nonsense.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He added: "Anyone who loves freedom and justice must strive for the annihilation of the Zionist regime in order to pave the way for world justice and freedom
Cant be a good Catholic without at least some reading comprehension with all the encyclicas and such.
Then, selective reading of course also helps.
I am sitting on the fence on this issue. [/quote]
Yes, the title comes from the last paragraph:
You mean the speech where he also did not call for any kind of physical annihilation?
[/quote]
I’m not sure how you’d not call for any kind of physical annihilation and still call for something to be wiped off the page of time? How does that work?[/quote]
Well, Ahmie’s own news service apparently thought it carried the same threat. Seeing as they published the translation as ‘wiped of the map.’ But hey, what do they know. Could be Zionist plants in his organization. Back to the Ahmie Baywatch, hamburger, love-in.
[/quote]
Na, that was the NYT translation.
[/quote]
http://web.archive.org/web/20070927213903/http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247
[/quote]
Alright, still a mistranslation, because he is quoting Khomeini who said that the regime of the Sha should disappear.
Unless you are willing to consider that Khomeini wanted to wipe Iran “off the map” this translation is obvious nonsense. [/quote]
“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,” said Ahmadinejad, referring to the late founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Imam Khomeini.
Addressing some 4,000 students gathered in an interior ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come.
“The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland,” he said.
Regarding the Zionist regime’s retreat from the Gaza Strip he said, “we should not settle for a piece of land”.
“Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world,” Ahmadinejad said.
“Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognise Israel face the wrath of their own people.”
Doesn’t sound to me like he’s talking about the Umma waiting for it to just disappear. Or am I grossly missing the Hands across Iran anti-Zionist message?