Has any one tried the MGF or IGF-1 that is on their website? It so I would be interested in on the out come.
Thanks
Anthony Robert’s thinks its great!
Of course he would be a fan of “turd on a stick” if AG-Guys were selling it from what I understand.
Rainjack thinks it’s crap!
I think if we could get the two of them to come duke it out on here that that would be awesome.
Check the archives. Before he ‘left’ T-Nation there were some really good ones. He’s not a very skilled debater, and he lies about every third sentence.
AG-Guys’ IGF is way way way overpriced. They prey on newbies.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Check the archives.[/quote]
I used to follow them when they were going on. Entertaining stuff - from the outside looking in anyway.
Sorry for the highjack but what would be a good dose( or dosing setup) for IGF or MGF in a cutting cycle. I have some info about it’s supposed benefits and as a post cycle boost however I have a difficult time finding a dose level to try. BB
Go with IBE or Chemone.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Check the archives. Before he ‘left’ T-Nation there were some really good ones. He’s not a very skilled debater, and he lies about every third sentence.
AG-Guys’ IGF is way way way overpriced. They prey on newbies.
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From the outside looking in, his arguments beat your arguments every single time. Unfortunately for him it would be easier for others to take him seriously if he weren’t so obnoxious.
[quote]speed wrote:
Go with IBE or Chemone.
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That’d be a super choice…do a search on the other boards…as in other than this one that is…such fine and upstanding companies…there’s some great stories about them out there at the moment…then you can decide for yourself.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
From the outside looking in, his arguments beat your arguments every single time. [/quote]
It must be from way outside. He’s a liar, and everyone knows it.
How do you figure that lies beat the truth every single time?
If I remember correctly - you were/are one of his biggest fan boys.
Not that I give a shit.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
From the outside looking in, his arguments beat your arguments every single time.
It must be from way outside. He’s a liar, and everyone knows it.
How do you figure that lies beat the truth every single time?
If I remember correctly - you were/are one of his biggest fan boys.
Not that I give a shit.
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I’m not a customer of either of your shitty companies. His arguments were more convincing, that’s all. I’d challenge you to find one fanboyish post from me but since you said “you don’t give a shit,” I’ll interpret that as you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
I’m not a customer of either of your shitty companies. His arguments were more convincing, that’s all. I’d challenge you to find one fanboyish post from me but since you said “you don’t give a shit,” I’ll interpret that as you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. [/quote]
I’m sorry but “I don’t give a shit” means that I don’t really care if you are one of his fan-boys or not.
The mere fact that you suggest I have been bested by him in every altercation tells me all I need to know.
Now run along…I think he ahs a new blog entry coming out today. Maybe you can be the first to swallow more of his lies.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
I’m not a customer of either of your shitty companies. [/quote]
I only have an interest in one company. You say “either”. What other company do I hold an interest in? I’d like to know -
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
I’m not a customer of either of your shitty companies.
I only have an interest in one company. You say “either”. What other company do I hold an interest in? I’d like to know -
RJ, I suspect he means either your company or ARs company. But I could be wrong…[/quote]
I thought he was referring to hooker’s idiotic implication that I was also involved with IBE -
[quote]rainjack wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
I’m not a customer of either of your shitty companies.
I only have an interest in one company. You say “either”. What other company do I hold an interest in? I’d like to know -
RJ, I suspect he means either your company or ARs company. But I could be wrong…
I thought he was referring to hooker’s idiotic implication that I was also involved with IBE - [/quote]
No, I didn’t mean to make such an implication. I’m not trying to fuck up your business or spread rumors, in fact I’ve heard nothing but good things about your customer service. I’ve just noticed that you tend to use ad-homs rather unskillfully and the best you can come up with against AR is to call him a liar. Since nobody really knows who is lying I think your arguments have tended to be pretty weak.
I think I can see what is happening here. AR is trying to emulate RC’s business model. Unfortunately for him, Chemone isn’t viewed as a peice a shit by the public the way RC’s competition is. Thus AR’s prices are unjustified. You’re a decent businessman for sure, but you suck at debate.
Chem one- Cheap, fast, good customer service, tastes good.
Lion- Middle range to almost inline with aguys price, about the same speed as chemone, flavors aren’t that great
AGuys- Expensive, tastes like burning
As for the AR debate. He bragged about a gram a week or more of test and other AAS and he didnt look very developed. Most of his arguements were retarded, and was a women after people critisized him. Refer to the figure model article.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
No, I didn’t mean to make such an implication. I’m not trying to fuck up your business or spread rumors, in fact I’ve heard nothing but good things about your customer service. I’ve just noticed that you tend to use ad-homs rather unskillfully and the best you can come up with against AR is to call him a liar. Since nobody really knows who is lying I think your arguments have tended to be pretty weak. [/quote]
Ad homs? You are telling me that I resort to ad hominem attacks with hooker, and you can’t see him doing the exact same thing - not only with me, but in every ‘debate’ he has?
Please enlighten me on what a skillful ad hominem would look like.
The truth is - he has lied about me or chemone just about every time he has posted on the subject. He pulls quotes completely out of context, and he offers deadly advice. See the female contest article for evidence.
You’re entitled you your opinion on this, but you are in the very weak minority.
[quote]I think I can see what is happening here. AR is trying to emulate RC’s business model. Unfortunately for him, Chemone isn’t viewed as a peice a shit by the public the way RC’s competition is. Thus AR’s prices are unjustified. You’re a decent businessman for sure, but you suck at debate.
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What debate are we having? There is no debate. You think Hooker is a god, and I don’t. I think he is a lying, devious, dangerous piece of shit, and you don’t.
There is no debate. There is only perception, regardless of how misguided yours may be.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
No, I didn’t mean to make such an implication. I’m not trying to fuck up your business or spread rumors, in fact I’ve heard nothing but good things about your customer service. I’ve just noticed that you tend to use ad-homs rather unskillfully and the best you can come up with against AR is to call him a liar. Since nobody really knows who is lying I think your arguments have tended to be pretty weak.
Ad homs? You are telling me that I resort to ad hominem attacks with hooker, and you can’t see him doing the exact same thing - not only with me, but in every ‘debate’ he has?
Please enlighten me on what a skillful ad hominem would look like.
The truth is - he has lied about me or chemone just about every time he has posted on the subject. He pulls quotes completely out of context, and he offers deadly advice. See the female contest article for evidence.
You’re entitled you your opinion on this, but you are in the very weak minority.
I think I can see what is happening here. AR is trying to emulate RC’s business model. Unfortunately for him, Chemone isn’t viewed as a peice a shit by the public the way RC’s competition is. Thus AR’s prices are unjustified. You’re a decent businessman for sure, but you suck at debate.
What debate are we having? There is no debate. You think Hooker is a god, and I don’t. I think he is a lying, devious, dangerous piece of shit, and you don’t.
There is no debate. There is only perception, regardless of how misguided yours may be. [/quote]
I hear ya on that dangerous advice. I would also like to add stupid. The whole thing about HCG increasing thyroid output has been disproven. There is a reason why fat farms stopped using it.