well, with that in mind, I’m kind of wondering what your earlier point even was?
EDIT: I don’t mean that to sound argumentative. I’m just trying to understand your reasoning.
well, with that in mind, I’m kind of wondering what your earlier point even was?
EDIT: I don’t mean that to sound argumentative. I’m just trying to understand your reasoning.
Well, after reading it all again, I think something got misconceived here. My point was not that 50 mg dose is harmful, but rather to take the minimum dose required to get the job done which in OP’s case could be 50 mg, in Igs’s case it was 25 mg and in my case was a meager 10 mg. And everyone doesn’t need to take the 50 mg dose to get a good response. My other point was to avoid the common PCT pitfalls like the one OP did to combine the 2 SERMs, other very common mistake is to use very high dosages of SERM in hope to get a good response after using extremely suppressive gear, and another is doing the standard 4 week PCT after taking gear for months. To clarify my point I had repeated a couple times during the entire conversation that 50 mg dose is not unreasonable and have been found effective in studies. Also in clinical set ups the 50 mg dose is considered a low dose for CC.
The point is to avoid creating LH levels that are high that:
High E2 is never a good idea. If you taper out properly, E2 levels should be lower for end of PCT and should not then cause a rebound shutdown that kills the restart. However, I expect that higher SHBG levels induced by higher E2 levels will linger and reduce FT.
When PCT ends, what do you think that any LH receptor desensitization will do you your outcome? Not good.
There is no need to push LH levels higher than what you will be able to sustain in your own after PCT. When your testes see a huge drop in LH; what do you think the response will be. Wrong signal.
Dude your estrogen is tanked. Did you use an AI during your cruise?
UPDATE: Test levels haven’t changed.a bit. Boners are good and loads arent watery and balls are big though. I haven’t lost any size since I came off and very little strength.
I followed yogi protocol above.
gonna go to the doctor again to make sure its not something else. Ill give it a few more months, following the same protocol, and if it still is low then try and freeze sperm and go on trt with hcg, I guess
Any other suggestions?