Adrenal Fatigue/Thyroid?

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:

Agreed, however, since the OP is on a chronic course of corticosteroids, a replacement dose of testostrerone (assuming his is low, which would be revealed by a blood test) might be a good idea to stave off reduced bone mineral density.

BBB

This is huge and something I may be dealing with.

Also, don’t forget long term immune suppression from chronic coritcosteroid use.[/quote]

(I hope you don’t mind the hijack, modernlyamused)

I take corticosteroids (nasal spray) for allergies and have for the last 6 months. Do I need to reconsider this?

You got the 4x saliva cortisol test as well as the free T3 blood test right?

[quote]laroyal wrote:
Another thing that is crucial for rebuilding the adrenals is Pantathine, I would take 250 mg with breakfast and lunch. I would also add Taurine in later in the day (somewhere around 3-5 grams taken after 2 PM) and glycine 3 grams under your tounge with each meal.

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Why do you recommend taking Taurine after 2 PM? I have been adding it to my morning shake. Should I switch it to my bedtime shake?

Sorry for the hijack!

Claire

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
Another thing that can cause high anxiety, along with hyperthyroid, is an adrenal adenoma…we think my mother has this (along with a dead thyroid). It’s called Conn’s Syndrome.

If she doesn’t have aldosterone blocked, she has insane anxiety and super high blood pressure. They are trying to locate the adenoma right now.

http://www.nature.com/ncpendmet/journal/v1/n2/full/ncpendmet0047.html

Good luck.

Fixed that for you :wink:

Hope you don’t mind.

BBB[/quote]

I see what you did there; I meant what I said, tho, but I didn’t say it clearly. I meant that you could have anxiety and a low thyroid; that the anxiety wasn’t caused by a hyper.

Of course, it was very early when I was writing that. :wink:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
Another thing that can cause high anxiety, along with hyperthyroid, is an adrenal adenoma…we think my mother has this (along with a dead thyroid). It’s called Conn’s Syndrome.

If she doesn’t have aldosterone blocked, she has insane anxiety and super high blood pressure. They are trying to locate the adenoma right now.

http://www.nature.com/ncpendmet/journal/v1/n2/full/ncpendmet0047.html

Good luck.

Fixed that for you :wink:

Hope you don’t mind.

BBB

I see what you did there; I meant what I said, tho, but I didn’t say it clearly. I meant that you could have anxiety and a low thyroid; that the anxiety wasn’t caused by a hyper.

Of course, it was very early when I was writing that. :wink:

So you mean that the anxiety could exist totally seperately from the thyroid condition, which could be hyper or hypo, irrespctive of the mental state of the patient?

Of course you are right in that anxiety doesn’t have to be caused by or related to, a thyroid condition. Having said that, severe hyperthyroid is highly likely to cause anxiety and a hypothyroid condition is extremely unlikely to cause anxiety. Well, that’s what my textbooks say, lol.

BBB[/quote]

Yes; the anxiety and high blood pressure are caused by the adrenal adenoma/Conn’s - she just happens to also be hypo (was Hashi/hyper in her youth).

Well the thing is… I had my saliva test done with one of the newest tests available that shows everything.

I was diagnosed hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue from the doctor. I spent 4 months waiting for her to get back with me for an answer… hoping she was gonna prescribe me armour & hydrocortisone, but in the end… she said “they weren’t bad enough” to… and totally went back on what she said. Basically saying, I don’t have hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue according to my levels. Which was ridiculous, because the way I felt was unbelievably bad.

So, I found my own way to get the medicines.

[quote]modernlyamused wrote:
Well the thing is… I had my saliva test done with one of the newest tests available that shows everything.

I was diagnosed hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue from the doctor. I spent 4 months waiting for her to get back with me for an answer… hoping she was gonna prescribe me armour & hydrocortisone, but in the end… she said “they weren’t bad enough” to… and totally went back on what she said. Basically saying, I don’t have hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue according to my levels. Which was ridiculous, because the way I felt was unbelievably bad.

So, I found my own way to get the medicines.[/quote]

That sounds pretty stupid to me. Not the 4 months of waiting. The self medicating is what sounds stupid. At least get a second opinion.

This is America. Doctors, Physicians Assistants, and pretty much anyone who has the legal power to prescribe drugs is pretty gung-ho about writing up scripts no matter what. If you come to a doctor with an ailment and they don’t want to cut you up or put you on a combination of drugs, then its probably pretty certain that nothing is wrong with you because if there was ANY room for them to give you drugs or surgery, they probably would have tried to find a way.

If you just feel like shit all the time, and that’s why you think you have an adrenal problem, then start exercising! Have you been waiting till this gets better to start training? If so, then it’s no wounder you feel awful. Go forth and squat, eat ice cream, go out with friends, and be happy.

If you think you have adrenal fatigue because of some stuff you read on this website, then you defiantly don’t have adrenal fatigue.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
FightingScott wrote:
If you think you have adrenal fatigue because of some stuff you read on this website, then you defiantly don’t have adrenal fatigue.

Whilst I agree that self-diagnosing, based upon internet forums is dodgy ground, you have to realise that medical doctors only recognise adrenal insufficiaency, not adrenal fatigue. So they only treat the thyroid if it is causing a medical emergency, not if its function is ‘somewhat impaired’.

She (the doctor) probably thought “OOh yes his levels are low, lets treat that”. And her superior probably balled her out for thinking that way so she reneged on her treatment plan.

BBB[/quote]

Sounds like you’d know better than I would.

[quote]modernlyamused wrote:
Well the thing is… I had my saliva test done with one of the newest tests available that shows everything.

I was diagnosed hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue from the doctor. I spent 4 months waiting for her to get back with me for an answer… hoping she was gonna prescribe me armour & hydrocortisone, but in the end… she said “they weren’t bad enough” to… and totally went back on what she said. Basically saying, I don’t have hypothyroid and adrenal fatigue according to my levels. Which was ridiculous, because the way I felt was unbelievably bad.

So, I found my own way to get the medicines.[/quote]

I’d look for another Dr. I am subclinical hypothyroid (Hashimoto’s), and I’m on a 1/2 grain of Armour to try to keep the Hashimoto’s from progressing or make the transition to full hypo less of a hit. Even this small amount has helped my mood, energy, libido, etc., and if it keeps the Hashi from progressing, it’s even better.

If it takes you 3.5 grains to feel right, then your Dr is probably not willing to go beyond what the test results say. Find a Dr who will prescibe medication based on how you feel, not what your tests say you should feel.

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