I thought about this when I saw that Mike Tyson will return to boxing. Then I saw his training video and I thought he’s clearly on a good dose of TRT which makes him probably more inclined to fight. Holyfield will return too, and I admit it, I’m excited.
Good to see you back unreal
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I don’t know about Mike on trt. The guy is a genetic freak. When he was champ, he was out on the town every night doing coke, and mj (used mj since around 12 IIRC), and still looked and performed awesome.
It is possible he is, but also plausible he isn’t. Not enough to say IMO based on his genetics and former physique.
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I highly, highly doubt Mike Tyson has been drug free (in terms of PED’s) his entire life. Furthermore, when a retired professional athlete suddenly bounces back demonstrating a level of physical prowess equatable to and/or superior to that of his/her prime, it’s likely he/she is on little bit of szechaun sauce. Mike Tyson was 5’10, 220 lean. It would be VERY difficult/impossible to reach his weight/body composition naturally, let alone while training like a boxer. He currently looks like he’s built like a brick-shithouse. He’s 54, he isn’t getting any younger, I’d argue it’s very likely he’s on TRT (if not a little more)
Lot’s of teenagers/young adults use marijuana + cocaine/recreational drugs whilst participating in athletics/still going to gym regularly. The human body is rather remarkable regarding its ability to tolerate extended periods of abuse and still bounce back.
I’d also like to make a bold, controversial statement regarding the realm of professional athleticism. If you professionally compete in a sport wherein your livelihood depends on levels of explosive strength, aggression, speed, endurance or agility, you’re using some sort of performance enhancing drug OR you’ve tried PED’s in the past. I’d argue this to be the case at least 90% of the time.
Keep in mind, I’m not merely referring to anabolic steroids… HGH (difficult to test for this), beta-2 agonists, beta blockers, amphetamines/stimulants, diuretics, painkillers, EPO/blood doping, sedatives, SERMS, SARMS etc all count as PED’s.
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I agree with this, maybe not 90% but certainly a lot. I’ve been involved with MMA and coaching for awhile now.The guys who get caught aren’t the only ones doing it, they are just the ones who didn’t plan PED cycles properly. I don’t by any means think everybody, but many do. The saying is it’s not a PED test, it’s an intelligence test.
It baffles me when athletes get popped for nandrolone. Given the window of detection, use practically guarantees getting booked without bribery/the tampering of samples.
oil changes (catheterisation/putting in clean urine and expelling it) and/or using a realistic, prosthetic phallus (filled with clean urine) was supposedly the norm at one point. Not sure about current practices; apparently WADA caught on and now athletes have to piss in front of a spectator to verify sample validity.
I don’t understand why we still abide by the “drugs are bad, it’s cheating” philosophy when it comes to professional athleticism. Similarly to bodybuilding/powerlifting, the addition of tested/untested federations should exist. It isn’t clear-cut and there are certainly ethical dilemmas with the prospect of adding “untested” divisions to mainstream sport, but I’d argue the addition of physician assisted monitoring for athletes would mitigate much of the drug-induced harm we currently see within the realm of athletics.
Athletics aren’t 100% clean, never have been and never will be.
I don’t have an answer in relation to combatting the downstream effects (kids doping to try compete in untested leagues, is it ethically acceptable to quasi condone PED use etc). I’d argue society condones plenty of unhealthy behaviour to begin with. The sky probably wouldn’t fall
I enjoy Masteron but the window of product I can “safely” add to my TRT for little blasts is closing unfortunately. I also have to be honest with myself and ask if I could achieve what I want with a bit more test and stricter diet. Generally the answer is probably yes.
I’d argue more. When you have genuinely gifted athletes who use PEDs not making it to the starting team in their given sport it’s hardly an endorsement of a fully natural environment. Sure there is a skill element but in any contact sport the size and strength added by a bit of T is too advantageous.
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