Addicted to Buying Supplements?

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
redgladiator wrote:
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The only reason I don’t buy my favorite Biotest supplements anymore is the duty tax to FedEx and the Queen…it is extortion.

You must be keeping the Royal family happy holidaying - I refuse to, on principle.

I can’t believe you bring so much into the country.

wow

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Likewise. I would swallow the cost before, but now, fuck it - I have better things to spend money on than import duties.

At the moment my supplement list consists of fish oil, protein powder, Superfood and a multi.

[quote]MODOK wrote:
Whenever you start thinking about buying something new, go to the gym and immediately do a set of 20 rep breathing squats. Repeat as necessary. That’ll fix your wagon.[/quote]

Couldn’t agree more!

(And remember, this is coming from the guy with a Biotest shirt!)

:wink:

Holy shit redgladiator that is a gross of Surge Workout Fuel… How does he do it? VOLUME…

Here I am puttering away at Level 3 lol - have to stockpile more Surge Recovery…

[quote]redgladiator wrote:
waldo21212 wrote:
amphibian wrote:
I’m not an addict…addicts go to meetings.

And support groups are for pussies and quitters.

Not ours. Our support group is for bad ass mother fuckers who are addicted to bodybuilding supplements.(Seriods optional) Exclusivly for T-Nation ELITE members level 4’s and 5’s.[/quote]

I don’t know, when I think of support groups I think of something like this.

[quote]jaybvee wrote:
Holy shit redgladiator that is a gross of Surge Workout Fuel… How does he do it? VOLUME…

Here I am puttering away at Level 3 lol - have to stockpile more Surge Recovery…[/quote]

for god’s sake, who is that in your avatar?

[quote]greggio wrote:
Some of my supps are what I consider “health” supps that I would take even if I wasn’t lifting.

multi
fish oil
vit d
vit b complex

I have tried almost every Biotest supp. I have no problem trying stuff out to see if it does anything for me. I have quite a few bottles of stuff that didn’t get finished, and there has been stuf that I have just thrown away because it flat out sucked (not Biotest stuff).

Currently using
Superfood
Surge Workout Fuel
Surge Recovery
Leucine
Power Drive
Alpha-GPC
Circumin
Beta-Alanine
Creatine
Z-12 (I don’t think I will ever stop taking this)
various protein powders

This list will get cut down as I am finding the most important ones to be the ones I take para-workout.

I remember the days when I could go workout for 2 hours and not even feel tired afterwards. Those days are gone. I am 33 now with 3 kids, a house, and a job that can be too stressful sometimes. There is no downtime, and I average about 5 hours of sleep a night. I can get through workouts without the supps and did for a while, but I enjoy workouts more and my gains are better when I am using them.

By the time the weekend rolls around I pop some z-12 and try and recover for a couple of days.

My wife thinks I am crazy, and I probably am (a little). But I shit you not when I say that I don’t do anything else. I don’t go to sporting events, bars, strip clubs, movies, anything. I spend time with my family and if I get some free time the last thing I want to do is go out, so I don’t mind spending the money on myself.

/confession
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Why don’t you buy a motorcycle?
I had the same reasoning for my supplement shopping behavior then I said to myself: Why don’t you just get an exciting hobby?
You can see pictures of my first bike on my profile: Aprilia RS125cc racing junior, full power.
It’s supposed to be restricted as I am a beginner but the cops won’t find out - I can hardly ace this bike where I live let alone race.

[quote]SmallToBig wrote:

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In short, metabolic syndrome creates a metabolic mess that leads to dramatic increases in heart disease, vascular disease and stroke, and cancer. The medical community has been paying increasingly greater attention to this condition because of its booming prevalence and because of the big bucks invested in “education” by the manufacturers of the diabetes and pre-diabetes drugs, particularly makers of Actos and Avandia.

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Metabolic mess sounds like something I experienced post cycle when I came out without without tapering.
Had I known this I would have ordered D3 injections.
My recovery supplements/experimentation is at the moment IM injections of:

B6
B5
B12 - methylcobalamine
Progesterone
Alflutops
Growth Hormone

It is quite shocking and repugnant to read how doctors have turned themselves into such shameless cons.
It is a similar story with this injection called Alflutops. It has proved to be a brilliant supplement so far and it does provide a cure - it is little known because of course once cured people won’t be going back to doctors for treatment and pharmaceutical companies won;t benefit from their designer safe now break down later drugs.
I haven’t the time to go into it but research into Alflutops and you will see accounts of people who have been healed only after a 21 day course of IM injections.

I am currently on day 10 and they are not painful at all.
The GH is also brilliant and not painful and I have even done IV - phenomenal pumps and vascularity when administered pre workout. When you are exerting yourself it looks like you are going to burst out of your skin.
The B6 is painful but tolerable.
I have yet to have delivered the B5 and the B12. I hear the B12 is somewhat painful.

I was tested very low for zinc, b6, b5, b1 and magnesium.

I got Spike caffeine free for the B1. But the rest will all be injectables.

Just last week I bought Carbolin 19 ( $50 on the one shop that sells Biotest in my area ).
But not for bodybuilding purposes.
Why you ask. Indeed, I was surprised myself and here is why:

I had been reading on an online shop ( supplement window shopping, ha! ) and came across by chance forskolin extract. They were advertising it as an

  • Allergy and asthma supplement.

I had been suffering greatly from hayfever and pollutants allergies. Spent over $150 in two weeks on treatments and still couldn’t breathe properly and was in utter misery.

Remembered Carbolin 19 was forskolin with an ester attached to it. So I bought it for the alllergy and hayfever.

Within twenty minutes of taking it I was able to take a full breath, completely unblocked, no sinus, since 6 weeks! I was not expecting this result. I had even taken a hayfever medication with anti histamine and pure ephedra alkaloids at 15mg four times a day and little relief.
I have also dried up nicely from the water retention post steroid cycle, though I was just happy to breathe fully again.

I will take some time to read redgladiator thread on D3. It sounds very very interesting.
Thank you for the information.

[quote]redgladiator wrote:
waldo21212 wrote:
amphibian wrote:
I’m not an addict…addicts go to meetings.

And support groups are for pussies and quitters.

Not ours. Our support group is for bad ass mother fuckers who are addicted to bodybuilding supplements.(Seriods optional) Exclusivly for T-Nation ELITE members level 4’s and 5’s.[/quote]

lol, you are cracking me up…

Seriously, your Surge collection is quite a sight. You should pile up against a wall with all your other dupplements ( I don’t think you had anything in single digits ) in front like a pyramid and take a picture.

There is a baby picture of me, 6 month old, sitting in front of a tall pyramid of baby milk tins. I guess then that my supplement addiction is a family tradition.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
greggio wrote:
Some of my supps are what I consider “health” supps that I would take even if I wasn’t lifting.

multi
fish oil
vit d
vit b complex

I have tried almost every Biotest supp. I have no problem trying stuff out to see if it does anything for me. I have quite a few bottles of stuff that didn’t get finished, and there has been stuf that I have just thrown away because it flat out sucked (not Biotest stuff).

Currently using
Superfood
Surge Workout Fuel
Surge Recovery
Leucine
Power Drive
Alpha-GPC
Circumin
Beta-Alanine
Creatine
Z-12 (I don’t think I will ever stop taking this)
various protein powders

This list will get cut down as I am finding the most important ones to be the ones I take para-workout.

I remember the days when I could go workout for 2 hours and not even feel tired afterwards. Those days are gone. I am 33 now with 3 kids, a house, and a job that can be too stressful sometimes. There is no downtime, and I average about 5 hours of sleep a night. I can get through workouts without the supps and did for a while, but I enjoy workouts more and my gains are better when I am using them.

By the time the weekend rolls around I pop some z-12 and try and recover for a couple of days.

My wife thinks I am crazy, and I probably am (a little). But I shit you not when I say that I don’t do anything else. I don’t go to sporting events, bars, strip clubs, movies, anything. I spend time with my family and if I get some free time the last thing I want to do is go out, so I don’t mind spending the money on myself.

/confession

Why don’t you buy a motorcycle?
I had the same reasoning for my supplement shopping behavior then I said to myself: Why don’t you just get an exciting hobby?
You can see pictures of my first bike on my profile: Aprilia RS125cc racing junior, full power.
It’s supposed to be restricted as I am a beginner but the cops won’t find out - I can hardly ace this bike where I live let alone race.

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Lifting is my exciting hobby. I switch around from time to time where I invest my money. Guitars, woodworking, paintball, now lifting. They all stay around, but I focus the majority of my time and extra money on one at a time though.

As far as motorcycles, not really my thing. I think my wife would probably stroke out if she saw me on one.

I used to be addicted to supplements and then i finally realized that they werent doing shit for me but draining my bank account. I took the money that I saved and put it towards good fooed and got much better gains and saved money. But there are still a few things that I still take.

NoXplode- 1 scoop before training, flame me all you want but it gives me that caffiene rush that I need before training and it is cheap for me. I tub lasts me about 90 workouts.
Multivitamin
Acidophilus
Digestive Enzymes

I think that protein powder is way overrated imo, plus I am lactose intolerent and it makes my skin break out and gives me the shits.

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
I used to be addicted to supplements and then i finally realized that they werent doing shit for me but draining my bank account. I took the money that I saved and put it towards good fooed and got much better gains and saved money. But there are still a few things that I still take.

NoXplode- 1 scoop before training, flame me all you want but it gives me that caffiene rush that I need before training and it is cheap for me. I tub lasts me about 90 workouts.
Multivitamin
Acidophilus
Digestive Enzymes

I think that protein powder is way overrated imo, plus I am lactose intolerent and it makes my skin break out and gives me the shits.[/quote]

I used to be addicted to NoXplode and then i finally realized that it werent doing shit for me but draining my bank account. I took the money that I saved and put it towards good supplements and got much better gains and saved money. But there are still a few things that I still take.

3kg milk protein concentrate
4kg whey concentrate
maltodextrin
dextrose
protein bars
leucine
creatine
ZMA
carlson’s vit d3
Superfood
Flameout
fish oil
Receptormax
HOT-ROX
Z-12
11-T
Rez-V
Surge Recovery
Surge Workout Fuel
Curcumi
Power Drive
Spike pill
Carbolin 19
Alpha Male

I think that food is way overrated imo, plus I am lactose intolerent and it makes my skin break out and gives me the shits.

Just to be nit picky; lactose can give you the shits but it can’t make your skin breakout. You may have a milk allergy, though.

[quote]BSC819 wrote:
I used to be addicted to supplements and then i finally realized that they werent doing shit for me but draining my bank account. I took the money that I saved and put it towards good fooed and got much better gains and saved money. But there are still a few things that I still take.

NoXplode- 1 scoop before training, flame me all you want but it gives me that caffiene rush that I need before training and it is cheap for me. I tub lasts me about 90 workouts.
Multivitamin
Acidophilus
Digestive Enzymes

I think that protein powder is way overrated imo, plus I am lactose intolerent and it makes my skin break out and gives me the shits.[/quote]

Just buy a bottle of caffeine pills for $5 and save yourself the $60 on that crap supplement.

Can’t believe my list is incomplete! In three months, I’ll be:

Grow!
Metabolic Drive
Superfood
Curcumin-1 Billion
ZMA
Flameout
Surge
Surge Workout Fuel
L-Leucine
ReceptorMax
MAG-10 Sports Spray
Rez-V
Z-12
Alpha-GPC

non-Biotest
Glucosamine
Carlson’s Fish Oil
Vitamin B Complex
DMAE
Vinpo

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Just buy a bottle of caffeine pills for $5 and save yourself the $60 on crappy NO Assplode.[/quote]

You build a quick tolerance to the caffeine.

I believe I’m up to roughly .5g’s these days to get a good flow going. And I can’t believe that much more than that is going to be too healthy. I mean I talked to GB about it a few times, and I’m sort of nervous to just be taking 600mg’s in one dose all the time. 200mg don’t even touch me anymore, and I know 400 isn’t going to be enough.

Now that I’m almost out of caffeine pills I’m gonna try Spike and Surge. See how that goes…

[quote]on edge wrote:
redgladiator wrote: I am lactose intolerent and it makes my skin break out and gives me the shits.

Just to be nit picky; lactose can give you the shits but it can’t make your skin breakout. You may have a milk allergy, though.[/quote]

Very true. I have milk allergies that cause me to breakout, but am not lactose intolerant. Although I imagine someone can have both.

I am a cheap skate in every aspect of life. All I got is 30 pounds (less now) of whey blend, and some old multi-vitamins.
Oh and creatine I dont use, maybe I will start using it again.