AD for Me

8/27/08

6:30
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax

9:00
1/4 cup cashews
7 sausage snacks

10:15 am
5 oz salmon grilled w/olive oil
2 cups brocolli
1 tsp italian dressing
2 hardboiled eggs

to a knap (stayed up to late yesterday)

3:30
2 scoops ON Pro Complex

6:00
Gym

9:00
7 oz Prime rib (outback steak house)
6 oz steamed brocolli
6 oz steamed french green beans

10:45
2 tbls of nati pb
2 tbls of cool whip

bed at 11:00

awesome gym day, great energy for note really eating anything. Crap day for eating, had to much to do today and tried to snack or eat when possible.

8/28/08

7:45 am
4 egg omelette
1/3 cup of cheese
2 tbls pace salsa

11:15 am
(Subway salad)
1 cup lettuce
1 cup spinach
2 cans tuna w/mayo
1/3 cup bell peppers
1/3 cup cucumbers
2 tbls of vinegar & 2 olive oil

2:30 pm
(Wendy’s cesar salad w/o dressing)
2 cups romaine lettuce
1 chicken breat (kinda small)
2 tbls of cheese

8:00
7 oz of t-bone steak
2 cups of salad mix
4 oz of cheddar cheese
1/3 cup of brocolli
3 tbls kraft tuscan italian dressing
2 tbls bacon bits

Had a family outting today went to a place called Slide Rock and messed around in a very cold stream. Got some good walking in and some good exercise in some very cold water. Also got a good sun burn, rough day of eating since we were driving most of the time and play in the water.

I also forgot something awesome, I picked up some diet A&W rootbeer, holy shit is it great.

Things look pretty good, I got my computer back so if you need anything shoot me a PM or post. Great work!

Thank laroyal, I appreciate you stopping by the post. Things are going good, I had a time at first with the diet seeming as if I wasn’t eating enough. I upped the eating, but wasn’t feel it at all, so I eat by feel now and just try to get in a extra meals (this works better when I’m at my job versus being off and doing family stuff).

8/29/08 (5th year wedding anna)

4 eggs scrambled w/cheese
3 sausage links (not a big fan)
4 bacon
5 oz of ham

1/4 cup of pumpkin seeds
7-8 oz of steak (mix of t-bone, prime rib)

(started my carb day this evening since it was my annaversery)

8 oz of prime rib w/horse radish & aju
1 cup of twice baked potato
1 cup of gorganzola mac and cheese
2.5-3 cups of different kinds of bread
4 tbls of butter
1/2-3/4 of a cup of triple chocolate cake

So as you can see, my eating sucked today since I was running around doing things, getting a messages (first time ever), then had dinner plans. The dinner was awesome, we ate a place called Mastor’s. It’s a fancey steak place, if you knew me you’d know I’m very low rent and low key so this kind of stuff is crazy for me. The price of one steak was enough to feed me for several days, but it’s one time experience. I had (but didn’t come close to finishing it) a 28 day aged, 20oz prime rib, with some twice baked potato’s, all kinds of breads which were amazing, a great gorganzola mac and cheese dish. All in all it was an awesome dinner, but very pricey, but it’s only a one time thing (I keep telling myself this since it was very pricey).

8/30/08 & 8/31/08

Got off track trying to keep up with the weekend events and diet tracking. I didn’t really get to far off, but also didn’t eat that many meals. I had plenty of carbs, very low sugar this go around.

9/1/08

3 egg omelette
2 oz of steak
2 oz of mushrooms
2 oz of cheese

1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex

Olive Garden
6-7 bowls of salad
6 oz of steak
6 oz of chicken
2 cups of grilled squash & zucinni

I don’t remember what I had through out the day, it was the wife’s b-day, she got a new Ipod and a new Mac computer so I spent time moving my home built system and then setting up the Mac (which was a piece of cake).

The Olive Garden was cool, I ate so much salad I spent all day crapping it out. The best part is they’ll make you a Romaine salad instead of the pre-mix with carrots and Ice burg.

Went off path with the tracking so for those that view this thread. I can say my clothes are fitting better and my belt is looser this week. The week that I gained 4 pounds I think I was trying to just eat to much. I was eating 2 cups or more of ground beef, fried in butter or olive oil, plus all kinds of other stuff. I’ve cut down and just try to get more meals and keep the quality. I have some high fat ground beef left, but I’ve also picked up some leaner stuff to help out. I feel great!

I also started messing with the DC workout last week and it felt good so I went full bore today and it’s a bitch. I’m wore out, I didn’t even feel like eating that’s how beat up I am. Fun workout and once I get my numbers down I can get in and out in 60 minutes or less like I was before.

9/2/08

6:30 am
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax
3 tbls heavy cream

8:30 am
4 egg omelette
1.5 tbls of olive oil
1 tbls heavy cream
1/3 cup provalone/mozarella
1/3 cup of sauted mushrooms fried
1 tbls of butter

11:15 am
1 cup 95% ground beef
4 oz of cheddar cheese
1 hard boiled egg

12:35 pm
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax

1:30 pm
2 oz peacans
5 oz pumpkin seeds

4:05 pm
2 scoops ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax
4 tbls heavy cream

4:20 pm
2.5-3 tbls nati peanut butter
3-4 tbls whipped topping (0 carbs)

gym

8:00 pm
5 oz of prime rib (left over from Fri)
4 oz of salmon
2 cups of spinach
1/3 cup of broccoli
1/3 cup of provalone/mozarella cheese
2 tbls of salad dressing (kraft tuscan italian

Rockin gym session, I did the first full day of DC, last week I just messed with it, but today I got after it. The only down side is using machines (Hammer & Smith). I like free weights, but until my buddy gets back from Afgan in a few weeks I’m stuck without a spotter or partner. I did rack pulls from just below which I find much harder then doing them from mid shin, plus it was the last thing to do for the night and I was gassed.

9/3/08

6:30 am
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax
3 tbls heavy cream

8:15 am
4 eggs scrambled
2 tbls of pace salsa
3 oz of cheese
small amount of taco seasoning
1 tbls of olive oil
1 small low carb tortilla
10:00 am
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
3 tbls heavy cream

11:25 am
3 oz pumpkin seeds
4 oz cashews

12:15 pm
8 oz grilled salmon
2.5 cups of spinach
2 tbls of dressing
1 hard boiled egg

4:30 pm
10-12 oz rotisseri chicken
1/2 a pickle

8:00 pm
1.5 cups of ground beef
2 cups spinach
1 cup romaine
3 tbls dressing
4 oz green bell pepper
1 tbls bacon bits
1/2 a haas avacado

9/4/08

5:15 am
4 eggs
2 tbls butter
5 slices of bacon
1 slice low carb bread

8:10 am
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
1 scoop flax
3 tbls heavy cream

11:50 am
1 cup lean ground beef
2 cups of spinach
3 oz cheese
1/4 cup of broccoli
2 tbls kraft dressing
1 hard boiled egg

1:30
2 oz sunflower seeds
2 oz cashews

4:00
8 oz of prime rib (left over)
2.5 cups of romaine lettuce
1/4 cup broccoli
1/3 cup cheese
home made dressing (garlic, salt, pepper, lemon juice, vinegar, olive oil)

8:30

9/5/08

5:00 am
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
3 tbls heavy cream

7:30 am
4 eggs
1.5 tbls olive oil
4 bacon
1 low carb bread

10:15 am
7 oz steak
3 oz of cheese

3:30 pm
2 scoops Pro Complex
3 tbls heavy cream

8:15 pm
2 cups of salad mix
1/2 chicken breast
4 oz ground beef
1/3 cup cheese

2 heaping tbls nati peanut butter
4 tbls of whipped cream
1 scoop ON whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
4 tbls of heavy cream

9/06/08

8:30 am
3.5 eggs (scrambled)
6 oz prime rib (final ate all the leftover from 2-20oz cuts)
55 oz of water (for hydration prior to gym)

11:25 am
PWO shake
1/2 cup oats
1 scoop ON Whey
1 scoop ON Pro Complex
3 tbls heavy cream
1 yogurt

2:00 pm
Sumo bowl at Samuri Sam’s (chicken white, dark and steak w/brown rice)

6:30 pm
2 slices of pizza
8 hot wings
32 oz diet caffine free coke

10:30 pm
4-5 oz beef jerky
16 pretzel bites
2 yogurts (light)

Today was another great gym day, the DC workout that I’ve been using is really kicking in I feel great, leaner/smaller. I have more definition, clothes, belts are fitting better, but I gained 2.5 pounds over the last two weeks. I can’t say I’m happy at all, I really wanted to be closer to 300 within the next few months. I’m only doing one real cardo based day a week, so I’m going to shoot for 2-3 days of walking for minimum of 30 minutes in the evening. Or some other stuff like swimming, hiking etc…

Still liking this thread.

But it seems that you both want to look a certain way but you keep worrying about your weight. Would it really bother you if you didn’t change you weight drastically but dropped to single digit bodyfat?

It just seems like you are setting yourself up for disappointment when, from what I can tell, you are doing quite well.

[quote]laroyal wrote:
The AD promotes consumption of unlimited fatty, salty meats and dairy while restricting the consumption of cancer fighting fruits and vegtables. [/quote]

You are NOT serious about the AD placing a limit on vegetables are you?

Man, we have broccoli, cauliflower, spinach and green beans coming out our asses (literally).

Plus, we eat lots of turkey, lean beef, lean pork and chicken. Our fat/oil sources are mostly mono’s and poly’s.

Are you assuming that all we eat is bologna and salami all day?

[quote] I perfer to have clients go with a high protein 1.5-2grams, vegtables at every meal (good source of phytonutrients and alkylizing as well as slows digestion rate) low carbs (depending on a lot of factors between .5-1.25g/lb lean bw) fat intake of .5g/lb lean bw (coming from healthy fats and high dose of o3’s).

I encourage rotation of protein sources and I don’t count carbs from vegtables. With what you are overcoming the naturally occuring anti-oxidants in vegtables would likely compliment your recovery and you may consider adding coQ10 twice/day.

[/quote]

Sounds like what true smart AD-ers do.

Plus, we drink shakes made with low-carb proteins with EVOO mixed in. Not to mention the almonds and walnuts!

Derek

The AD advocates a higher amount of saturated fat than I would ever recommend, also I think the carb up alows people to be too sloppy (especially in the begining) and is too long. I could see a big meal or two, but as Charles tells his clients and I tell mine…you earn your carbs. I think Dr. D is quite brilliant and the diet has worked for many people quite well but, if you want my opinion, that is it.

Braunbeck

to address your question about the weight not dropping, I would say that your protein should be higher and your fat should be lower and I would start getting more veggies in (larger servings) Also I would limit the carb up and improve the carb sources at this point if leaning out is your priority. I know Dr. D says all that dairy is fine but, the acid load fromall of that coupled with the proteins you are taking in is likely a little high and that is something I would look at if I were you.

Here is a little closer to what I would do if I were you:
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs 1/2 bag spinach 10 Liver Tabs
Meal 2 10oz chicken with 1/2 cup raw almonds 1/2bag broccoli
Meal 3 50g Metabolic Drive, 1/2 bag frozen organic spinach 2 T greek yogurt 1T Macadamia Nut Oil 1/8th cup frozen blueberries
Meal 4 10oz salmon with 2 cups asparagus with 1 tablespoon Olive oil Cider vinegar and lemon juice
Meal 5 50 g Metabolic Drive with 1/2 bag frozen broccoli, 2 Omega 3 eggs 3 frozen Strawberries
Meal 6 10oz Turkey 1/2 cup mushrooms 1/2 bag spinach 2 servings pine nuts balsamic vinegarette dressing

Carb up meal at end of every 5th day:
In place of meal 6 or as an added 7th meal if your condition warrants it: 2.5 cups cooked rice, 12 oz. sweet potato, Large banana, 1 cup vegetables, 1 tbsp butter, almond butter or oil at the end of the day.

Again, I can’t argue with the success Dr. D and many others have had with the AD but, if you want my opinion, that is how I would do it different. At any rate, good job of keeping with things and good luck!

[quote]laroyal wrote:
Derek

The AD advocates a higher amount of saturated fat than I would ever recommend, also I think the carb up alows people to be too sloppy (especially in the begining) and is too long. I could see a big meal or two, but as Charles tells his clients and I tell mine…you earn your carbs. I think Dr. D is quite brilliant and the diet has worked for many people quite well but, if you want my opinion, that is it.

[/quote]

I understand the sat-fat subject and I somewhat agree, though not completely. I was really curious about your earlier statement about the lack of vegetables which is abjectly false.

And just because the carb-up theoretically “allows” one to be sloppy, no one advocates it and those of us in the know, in concert with the author advocate against it.

Many of us have a pretty short carb-up as well. I like to take the last six hours of one day and first of the next to carb-up ie; 12 noon Saturday to 12 noon Sunday.

And I’d say with 4-5 exhausting workouts per week, most of us earn our carbs.

Please keep in mind the amount of krill oil, fish oil caps, cod liver oil, extra virgin olive oil and insoluble fiber we consume on a daily basis.

I just feel your post made it appear as though most of those on the AD eat cold-cuts and cheese all day, avoid vegetables and fiber and carb-up at the donut shop.

Too many in the general population actually believe this stuff. I have to debunk these myths so often that I get a little weary, that’s all.

[quote]derek wrote:
laroyal wrote:
Derek

The AD advocates a higher amount of saturated fat than I would ever recommend, also I think the carb up alows people to be too sloppy (especially in the begining) and is too long. I could see a big meal or two, but as Charles tells his clients and I tell mine…you earn your carbs. I think Dr. D is quite brilliant and the diet has worked for many people quite well but, if you want my opinion, that is it.

I understand the sat-fat subject and I somewhat agree, though not completely. I was really curious about your earlier statement about the lack of vegetables which is abjectly false.

And just because the carb-up theoretically “allows” one to be sloppy, no one advocates it and those of us in the know, in concert with the author advocate against it.

Many of us have a pretty short carb-up as well. I like to take the last six hours of one day and first of the next to carb-up ie; 12 noon Saturday to 12 noon Sunday.

And I’d say with 4-5 exhausting workouts per week, most of us earn our carbs.

Please keep in mind the amount of krill oil, fish oil caps, cod liver oil, extra virgin olive oil and insoluble fiber we consume on a daily basis.

I just feel your post made it appear as though most of those on the AD eat cold-cuts and cheese all day, avoid vegetables and fiber and carb-up at the donut shop.

Too many in the general population actually believe this stuff. I have to debunk these myths so often that I get a little weary, that’s all.

[/quote]

Fair enough, I really haven’tlooked at the AD for some time so you are probably more familiar with it than me. I am often asked my opinion on it by clients and T-Nation members so my answers are not meant to be anti ad but rather, how I approach low carb diets. If you look through most of the logs where people have asked me to comment you will notice that they are doing what I ward against in that they are eating high sat. fat meats, dairy and not an appropriate amount of vegtables or alk. foods to counter the acid load. It sounds like we are basically on the same page. I will add that as one gets leaner I increase the length and frequency of the carb up as well as variety of foods, this is what I meant by earning your carbs.

I think too many people assume that 5 days of low carbs entitle them to a day of going carb crazy and to this I would say: Different people tolerate carbs differently and a DAY of carbs can often be too much for some people with impaired insulin sensitivity and they can end up undoing much of what they worked the last 5 or however many days for. In determining the appropriate carb up protocol there are MANY factors I look at but, when giving advice to people on forums I usually begin conservativly (unless they are already quite lean) and build up.

Cool. I understand what you’re getting at. It’s amazing how people get an idea in thier head and quickly figure out how to turn a good plan into an awful one.

There should be more hard and fast rules out there (about the AD) so human nature doesn’t automatically take over and turn it into a salami and Fruit Loop diet!

I made some no carb tortillas that were pretty handy.

3 eggs whipped up
1/4cup half & half
1/2cup chopped fresh spinach (stems removed)

I used a non-stick pan and poured the egg mixture out very thin like a crepe, salt and peppered and then flipped, and made a stack of 6 thin egg/spinach crepes that I then wrapped around asparagus and prosciutto

they were good… really good.

That is a really good idea OG! I am going to have to try that sometime! Proof a low carb diet doesn’t limit your choices! Great to see some creativity out there!

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I made some no carb tortillas that were pretty handy.

3 eggs whipped up
1/4cup half & half
1/2cup chopped fresh spinach (stems removed)

I used a non-stick pan and poured the egg mixture out very thin like a crepe, salt and peppered and then flipped, and made a stack of 6 thin egg/spinach crepes that I then wrapped around asparagus and prosciutto

they were good… really good.[/quote]

That is amazing. Nice work!

I remember you were the dark horse rider in the waffle vs. pancake debate with your crepe loyalties :slight_smile:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I made some no carb tortillas that were pretty handy.

3 eggs whipped up
1/4cup half & half
1/2cup chopped fresh spinach (stems removed)

I used a non-stick pan and poured the egg mixture out very thin like a crepe, salt and peppered and then flipped, and made a stack of 6 thin egg/spinach crepes that I then wrapped around asparagus and prosciutto

they were good… really good.[/quote]

Sounds tasty. Have you tried keeping them for a few days or freezing them.