[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
HypertroPHd wrote:
AlexKay wrote:
Pavlo1 wrote:
I’m not noticing any sensation foam rolling my lower back - would foam rolling hurt if u have adhesions? I have always wondered why my lower back struggles to grow
HypertroPHd wrote:
In response to the question on probable hypertrophy from foam rolling, Yeah, actually, my wife is a Physical therapy assistant and some years back she noticed i had significant adhesions on my lower traps, spinal erectors and front delt (adhesions, i believe could be visualized by picturing a bundle of muscle fibers that are overly tightend and covered by saran wrap)
By loosening the wrap it give those muscle fibres the volumization it was much due to have, And that is exactly what happened to me. my front delts got significantly larger the day after only one session, and my spinal erectors blew up to thick “cable like” proportions, as witnessed by my wife’s camera and even the feel of my erector thickness, + my performance in many movements went “sky high” after it. so yeah it got me larger and stronger. I recommend ART, trigger point and foam rolling.Great stuff
The way I have understood it, it is not advicable to foam roll the lower back, as you don’t want to be flexible there. I am pretty sure that Mike Robertson talks about this.
First off, the lower back foam roll was to remove adhesions, not necessarily build its flexibility,(but yes, I know it will promote potentially more flexibility) But on that note; I believe every part of the body should be not only strengthened but also flexible. Now if Mr Robertson has theories on not doing so, well that is one of his methods, not mine.In this developing discipline, No one truly has everything figured out yet, this is more of an art than a science. I think any muscle that can potentially be injured by being forced to be in a situation where flexibility is just going to be forced upon it (such as an incident in everyday living or even a maximal deadlift. Well, A lower back that is conditioned to roll, will welcome such an incident with open arms, rather than one that only knows one fixation of position. If u still question flexibility of the lower back, than check out the Russian method of the “loosening deadlift”. If your one of those functional guys, your probably gonna cringe when u see that one. I’m pretty sure even Louie Simmons and all those guys from west side barbell do it as well.
I suspect that the apparent difference is in what degree of flexibility Mike Robertson is saying one should not increase beyond.
Not that he wants poor flexibility.
It’s been known for a long time that in the context of sports, it is not the case that more flexibility, without limit, means lower injury rate. But rather there comes a point where excessive flexibility (abnormally great) increases rate of injury.[/quote]
To be honest, I have not read on Mr. Robertson view point on flexibility, but when u have others who do, and misinterpret, then misinform, I do feel a need to give my professional opinion. to para-phrase the gentleman i commented on; “You dont want to be flexible in the lower back” which i feel is a ridiculous statement. Bill, without having to reference to any “experts”, what is your true take on the subject. U said excessive flexibility can increase rate of injury, That is just simple logic. Everything (even in any topic) should be free of “excess” or “Deficiency”. for example not being flexible (deficient)could lead to injury from not being able to accommodate many planes of movement, Excessive flexibility (excess) would be an injury amongst itself, with the “plasticity” placed on the connective tissue and so on.