Did anyone see that townhall meeting Obama did yesterday, where people were asking him for a house, car, job, unemployment benefits, they were just begging him for free stuff. It was disgusting.
Want to see what’s actually in the stimulus?
http://www.propublica.org/special/the-stimulus-bills-house-vs.-senate
seems Dr Razor is just a troll account, given most of his last points have been terrible
Here is a list and a description of what is in the Stimulus.
It would be comical if it wasn’t the public’s money being spent.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Here is a list and a description of what is in the Stimulus.
It would be comical if it wasn’t the public’s money being spent.
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Glad to see money in NJ is going to the biggest shit hole areas. Unfortunately the people in this area will ruin everything they get in a matter of months.
[quote]hedo wrote:
http://www.stimuluswatch.org/
Here is a list and a description of what is in the Stimulus.
It would be comical if it wasn’t the public’s money being spent.
[/quote]
Yet his link says:
[u]These projects are not part of the stimulus bill.[/u] They are candidates for funding by federal grant programs once the bill passes. Learn more by reading the FAQs
First paragraph mate.
This whole discussion is sort of pointless. The package is passed and all we can do is hope for the best. I just hope we are not paying for it forever.
Tax relief would be nice since I know I am getting bent over this year WRT taxes and have not placed much in savings in about 18 months. Technically speaking I lost roughly 40% of my investments in the last 9 months.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/[/quote]
I apologize to future generations for this.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
This whole discussion is sort of pointless. The package is passed and all we can do is hope for the best. I just hope we are not paying for it forever.
Tax relief would be nice since I know I am getting bent over this year WRT taxes and have not placed much in savings in about 18 months. Technically speaking I lost roughly 40% of my investments in the last 9 months.[/quote]
Pointless, because it was MADE UP!!
There’s like 3 threads going on now full of phony outrage over totally made up shit. At what point do you guys finally shift your phony outrage to real outrage to the folks that keep lying to you?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this. [/quote]
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Pointless, because it was MADE UP!!
There’s like 3 threads going on now full of phony outrage over totally made up shit. At what point do you guys finally shift your phony outrage to real outrage to the folks that keep lying to you?[/quote]
So true. Pure theater.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
100meters wrote:
Pointless, because it was MADE UP!!
There’s like 3 threads going on now full of phony outrage over totally made up shit. At what point do you guys finally shift your phony outrage to real outrage to the folks that keep lying to you?
So true. Pure theater. [/quote]
It’s amazing. Just so much time wasted on demonstrably false information, but they will keep on listening to the same folks who GET PAID TO LIE. I don’t get it.
couldnt find a general stimulus thread, but I thought you guys would enjoy this stimulus as viagra ad: Stimulis: Because all economies have performance issues - YouTube
[quote]100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this.
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.[/quote]
Wait I get it Barney Frank and company are Republicans posing as democrats? Because I could swear Frank and his fag partner have a direct relation to the fannie and freddie mess.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Yeah I guess your right, republicans voted for the people responsible for a large protion of this mess. Get your head out of your ass when it comes to partisan politics and at least admit that your party is responsible for a very large portion of the problem.
Now lets recap the party responsible for bringing us the stimulus…
- The American people elect a president with a total of 42 days experience as a U S Senator from the most politically corrupt state in America whose governor is ousted from office. The President’s first official act is to close Gitmo and make sure terrorists civil rights are not violated.
- The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists.
- The CIA Boss, Leon Penetta with absolutely no experience, has a daughter Linda we find out, that is a true radical anti-American activist who is a supporter of all the Anti-American regimes in the western hemisphere.
- We got the most corrupt female in America as Secretary of State; bought and paid for.
- We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who files his own taxes.
- A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges.
- A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges.
- A Labor Sec’y nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct.
- A Sec’y HHS nominee who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes.
And that’s just the first two weeks. . . but who’s counting.
America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges ~ Barrack, Nancy, and Harry ~ and they are still trying to define stimulus.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this.
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.[/quote]
You mean, Dems and Repubs? I’ve never voted for a Democrat. And not my mess, Mr. Democract, it’s their mess. I don’t control monetary policy. Nor did I have any part in pressuring banks to make loans to extremely risky homeowners, because my bleeding heart wanted to see minorities and the poor in houses (they couldn’t afford).
I guess I’m apologizing on your, Bush’s, and Obama’s behalf. Well, since you guys believe that even larger government expeditures and even more debt, at the expense of future generations, makes for a sound economy. Obama’s on track to make even Bush look like a penny-pinching miser.
Then there’s Soc. Sec (yeah, so easy to fix it’s been a third rail in politics for how long?) and medicare.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this.
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.
Wait I get it Barney Frank and company are Republicans posing as democrats? Because I could swear Frank and his fag partner have a direct relation to the fannie and freddie mess.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Yeah I guess your right, republicans voted for the people responsible for a large protion of this mess. Get your head out of your ass when it comes to partisan politics and at least admit that your party is responsible for a very large portion of the problem.
Now lets recap the party responsible for bringing us the stimulus…
- The American people elect a president with a total of 42 days experience as a U S Senator from the most politically corrupt state in America whose governor is ousted from office. The President’s first official act is to close Gitmo and make sure terrorists civil rights are not violated.
- The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists.
- The CIA Boss, Leon Penetta with absolutely no experience, has a daughter Linda we find out, that is a true radical anti-American activist who is a supporter of all the Anti-American regimes in the western hemisphere.
- We got the most corrupt female in America as Secretary of State; bought and paid for.
- We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who files his own taxes.
- A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges.
- A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges.
- A Labor Sec’y nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct.
- A Sec’y HHS nominee who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes.
And that’s just the first two weeks. . . but who’s counting.
America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges ~ Barrack, Nancy, and Harry ~ and they are still trying to define stimulus.
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A loyal dittohead and homophobic to boot!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this.
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.
You mean, Dems and Repubs? I’ve never voted for a Democrat. And not my mess, Mr. Democract, it’s their mess. I don’t control monetary policy. Nor did I have any part in pressuring banks to make loans to extremely risky homeowners, because my bleeding heart wanted to see minorities and the poor in houses (they couldn’t afford).
I guess I’m apologizing on your, Bush’s, and Obama’s behalf. Well, since you guys believe that even larger government expeditures and even more debt, at the expense of future generations, makes for a sound economy. Obama’s on track to make even Bush look like a penny-pinching miser.
Then there’s Soc. Sec (yeah, so easy to fix it’s been a third rail in politics for how long?) and medicare. [/quote]
Blaming the CRA seems to be quite popular in here, but the CRA only applies to depository institutions, meaning CRA related sub-prime loans amount to maybe 20% percent of the current mess.
and for further clarification here’s Janet L. Yellen, President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
Before I turn to potential interventions, I want to make one final point. There has been a tendency to conflate the current problems in the subprime market with CRA-motivated lending, or with lending to low-income families in general. I believe it is very important to make a distinction between the two. Most of the loans made by depository institutions examined under the CRA have not been higher-priced loans,16 and studies have shown that the CRA has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households.17 We should not view the current foreclosure trends as justification to abandon the goal of expanding access to credit among low-income households, since access to credit, and the subsequent ability to buy a home, remains one of the most important mechanisms we have to help low-income families build wealth over the long term.18
So that means 80% of the subprime mess can blamed on the deregulation of other institutions, deregulation fought for by republicans. And still this mess is just a fraction of the mess caused by deregulating (by republicans) that allowed financial institutions to create crazy investments off bad loans and leverage themselves 44 to 1. That smart bit of “free market-ness” has led us to now having to borrow a trillion dollars just to stop the bleeding.
Hilariously though you tried to blame CRA, without ever researching how much they might be involved. Again Rush and Fox get paid to lie to you, if they say it, believe the opposite.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/14/A-major-milestone/
I apologize to future generations for this.
Yes, it’s sad that you voted for the folks who led us to this. Sucks that we have to try and fix your mess.
Way to man up though.
You mean, Dems and Repubs? I’ve never voted for a Democrat. And not my mess, Mr. Democract, it’s their mess. I don’t control monetary policy. Nor did I have any part in pressuring banks to make loans to extremely risky homeowners, because my bleeding heart wanted to see minorities and the poor in houses (they couldn’t afford).
I guess I’m apologizing on your, Bush’s, and Obama’s behalf. Well, since you guys believe that even larger government expeditures and even more debt, at the expense of future generations, makes for a sound economy. Obama’s on track to make even Bush look like a penny-pinching miser.
Then there’s Soc. Sec (yeah, so easy to fix it’s been a third rail in politics for how long?) and medicare.
Blaming the CRA seems to be quite popular in here, but the CRA only applies to depository institutions, meaning CRA related sub-prime loans amount to maybe 20% percent of the current mess.
and for further clarification here’s Janet L. Yellen, President and CEO, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
Before I turn to potential interventions, I want to make one final point. There has been a tendency to conflate the current problems in the subprime market with CRA-motivated lending, or with lending to low-income families in general. I believe it is very important to make a distinction between the two. Most of the loans made by depository institutions examined under the CRA have not been higher-priced loans,16 and studies have shown that the CRA has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households.17 We should not view the current foreclosure trends as justification to abandon the goal of expanding access to credit among low-income households, since access to credit, and the subsequent ability to buy a home, remains one of the most important mechanisms we have to help low-income families build wealth over the long term.18
So that means 80% of the subprime mess can blamed on the deregulation of other institutions, deregulation fought for by republicans. And still this mess is just a fraction of the mess caused by deregulating (by republicans) that allowed financial institutions to create crazy investments off bad loans and leverage themselves 44 to 1. That smart bit of “free market-ness” has led us to now having to borrow a trillion dollars just to stop the bleeding.
Hilariously though you tried to blame CRA, without ever researching how much they might be involved. Again Rush and Fox get paid to lie to you, if they say it, believe the opposite.
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And a little bit regarding monterary policy, which you forgot I also mentioned.