Absurd Reaction in Class Today

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
schultzie wrote:
We are doing the spinal erectors and traps and one girl in my group is literally going “gross!” and “eww!” the whole time. I feel in awe.

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So she is saying this whilst palpating you?

This is unacceptable double standards. Would she not be chastised for behaving like this if she was palpating an obese person and saying “gross” etc.?

So the fact that she can say this to one section of the populace, but not another, is very bad IMO.

The fact that you can’t point this out, without seeming like an insecure douche, is just adding insult to injury.

BBB[/quote]

Agreed.

Somehow this ok to do to someone is they are in better shape than you…but I guarantee if this wannabe professional acted like this in ANY other professional setting she would have had her ass handed to her by the instructor.

I wonder if I could have done that to my patients in school.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
What did you think, that every time we hear this we punch someone in the face?

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Not everybody - but I figured you probably do… ; )

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[quote]Jbrew wrote:
Ok can I ask an indirect question here that I think relates now…what came first lifting and your size or your career then you started lifting seriously?[/quote]

For me, size was an accident. I had just retired from playing basketball where my playing weight was around a muscular 185lbs. This was also in the beginning of my professional “day time job” career. So no problems or perception issues back then. I started to drift up to about 215/220 with some half assed workouts during that span. I was only perceived then as a “big guy” and because of my frame, any “junk” was well hidden and I was still working out and playing sporadically. I moved for employment reasons and, still wanting to stay in shape, joined a gym and by complete chance befriended and started working out with a powerlifter. Still by another chance, I agreed to go to a meet to support him and cheer him on and well, I was hooked. For me, powerlifting gave me a “reason” to work out. Prior, I played ball, so that was my “reason”. After ball and before powerlifting, working out was a chore and done only for vanity - to look good “nekid”. From there, I quickly went to about 240 my first year or so. And I remember distinctly after my first meet some guys on the team were telling me my squat would explode if I went up to 250. And I remember quite clearly, I didn’t want to be 250 let alone North of 250. I always just wanted my lifts to go up - I never purposefully wanted to be bigger. I’ve been as high as 283 a week out from a meet (had to cut to make 275) and I’ve recently been down to 255. Right now, I’m probably around 265. My plan is to get down to “pit weight” since I’m getting older but I’m thinking even that will be 240. The comments for me came around 240 and up and by that time, I was in the corporate world. I’m quite positive size has never helped my career - except when I was doing personal protection. I even had a colleague who I used to hang out with bar hopping suggest once that I should get a pair of glasses to wear as that would open up another realm of dating prospects - even though I’ve always been popular. He thought it would help cancel out the big muscular dumb guy perception…whatever. Whatever spin you want to put on it, there are just so many negative connotations that come with being large and muscular. The closest equivilent is probably being blonde and having big tits.

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Question for the bigger folks.

How do you react to these comments and does your reaction differ depending on the setting/situation? What is the best way to approach these situations both personally and professionally? E.g. friends, strangers, co-workers, employers etc.

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Just so we’re clear I did say I’m sorry to X and I have never attacked him before that, but ok dude…

The reason I ask is because I’ve always worked in a gym so I think I see things through a vacuum because of that so I’m trying to understand how people could be that ignorant I guess…I mean I hear it from time to time, but I guess it just hasn’t as directly effected my life as you guys have experienced it.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I even had a colleague who I used to hang out with bar hopping suggest once that I should get a pair of glasses to wear as that would open up another realm of dating prospects - even though I’ve always been popular. He thought it would help cancel out the big muscular dumb guy perception…whatever. [/quote]

No no no no, I think he hoped to summon that Clark Kent look. Chicks dig Superman.

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[quote]Ironfreak wrote:
Question for the bigger folks.

How do you react to these comments and does your reaction differ depending on the setting/situation? What is the best way to approach these situations both personally and professionally? E.g. friends, strangers, co-workers, employers etc.[/quote]

I try to react to anything with a certain level of grace - unless of course you have come within my chain space acting in a menacing manner :slight_smile: There’s nothing to be gained by putting someone down or having a clever comeback in those situations. You’re the big guy, you’re expected to take it and any over-reaction, perceived or real, will reflect poorly on you. You will rarely ever be viewed as a “victim”. In OPs case, nothing was required. The lady in question I’m sure was young and she was being an attention whore. Whether she secretly liked it, or really found it “gross” is irrelevant - there is no reply that doesn’t make you look like a cave man.

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Lol, wow you have been itching to say that shit for awhile haven’t you?

Dude, you don’t know where I started, and those pictures are from June. The fact I almost lost my job is more relevant than those pictures.

Yes I’m an arrogant motherfucker, I accomplish shit. You should try it sometime.

And if I were you I would be wary of trying to put others down with the phrase [quote]you follow X around[/quote]. Those in glass houses…

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Hey, look at that, two people that like to make themselves feel better by putting down others…

hmmmm. How on topic guys. Thanks for making examples of yourself for us all…

Are you fucking shitting me guy? Seriously, you of all people should not be calling anyone out for putting down others.

All you do is stomp around these boards like Mr.Hardcore, telling people what a badass you are in the gym, and throwing around that “everyone around me is a cockroach” attitude. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit - you follow X around and attack the shit out of people pretty much every day around here, so maybe you need a reality check.

It was actually a pretty amusing comment, and it’s pretty accurate - I wouldn’t think for one second that you were geared up.

I think you have some relevant things to say a lot of the time, but you also storm around acting like an uber-tough guy with a shitty attitude equally as much…so before you tag someone for “putting others down” perhaps you should examine your own behavior. [/quote]

Oh, and there are quite a few people around here that can tell you I have complemented and celebrated their progress. You just choose to see what you want to see.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Ironfreak wrote:
Question for the bigger folks.

How do you react to these comments and does your reaction differ depending on the setting/situation? What is the best way to approach these situations both personally and professionally? E.g. friends, strangers, co-workers, employers etc.

I try to react to anything with a certain level of grace - unless of course you have come within my chain space acting in a menacing manner :slight_smile: There’s nothing to be gained by putting someone down or having a clever comeback in those situations. You’re the big guy, you’re expected to take it and any over-reaction, perceived or real, will reflect poorly on you. You will rarely ever be viewed as a “victim”. In OPs case, nothing was required. The lady in question I’m sure was young and she was being an attention whore. Whether she secretly liked it, or really found it “gross” is irrelevant - there is no reply that doesn’t make you look like a cave man.
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Agreed. I always either laugh it off or don’t comment. Reacting with ANY sort of attitude will simply cause them to think even worse.

It is a little like being surrounded by people near the poverty level who are unemployed and having one of them make a joke about how easy it was for you to do well in school and make a decent living. Any harsh response will simply be taken as you being full of yourself, even if it is warranted.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
ChickenNiglets wrote:

Don’t get too worked up over it countingbeans. If it makes you feel any better I don’t think you look like you’re on steroids at all.

LMAO - classic.

Hey, look at that, two people that like to make themselves feel better by putting down others…

hmmmm. How on topic guys. Thanks for making examples of yourself for us all…
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Beans, I wasn’t putting you down. I don’t feel any better about myself because you took offense to my comment. If anything, I want to curl up into a ball and cry myself to sleep over it. I was simply trying to tell you what you want to hear. If saying someone doesn’t look like they’re on is putting them down, then saying someone looks like they’re on must be the inverse of that. Right? Take what you can get. If someone asks, tell them no. What other option is there? Allowing other’s comments to upset you is a sign of emotional weakness. Are you getting emotional as a result of lowered test levels? Maybe your natural production is down because you just came off of a cycle? I’m here for you.

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[quote]Jbrew wrote:
Just so we’re clear I did say I’m sorry to X and I have never attacked him before that, but ok dude…

The reason I ask is because I’ve always worked in a gym so I think I see things through a vacuum because of that so I’m trying to understand how people could be that ignorant I guess…I mean I hear it from time to time, but I guess it just hasn’t as directly effected my life as you guys have experienced it. [/quote]

Working in a gym is the complete opposite of what many of us experience. If getting bigger muscles is seen as such a negative in a place like that, then you need to change gyms.

Most people in my line of work do not look like me.

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What I mean by that is what has been talked about numerous times on this form…guys want to look like brad pitt in fight club or spider man or something. All the people in my gym are cross fit guys or just don’t have a mass phase. So as soon as I shoot up like 20-30lbs in 4 or 5 months how do you think my co-workers justify that…

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Ironfreak wrote:
Question for the bigger folks.

How do you react to these comments and does your reaction differ depending on the setting/situation? What is the best way to approach these situations both personally and professionally? E.g. friends, strangers, co-workers, employers etc.

I try to react to anything with a certain level of grace - unless of course you have come within my chain space acting in a menacing manner :slight_smile: There’s nothing to be gained by putting someone down or having a clever comeback in those situations. You’re the big guy, you’re expected to take it and any over-reaction, perceived or real, will reflect poorly on you. You will rarely ever be viewed as a “victim”. In OPs case, nothing was required. The lady in question I’m sure was young and she was being an attention whore. Whether she secretly liked it, or really found it “gross” is irrelevant - there is no reply that doesn’t make you look like a cave man.
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What if he were to respond with “Spinal erector hypertrophy as a result of excessive load bearing stimulas accompanied by a positive nitrogen balance is gross? What?”

Haha That will show her.

Or he could have used the tried and true. “You know what they say about the size of a guys spinal erectors…”

V

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[quote]ChickenNiglets wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
ChickenNiglets wrote:

Don’t get too worked up over it countingbeans. If it makes you feel any better I don’t think you look like you’re on steroids at all.

LMAO - classic.

Hey, look at that, two people that like to make themselves feel better by putting down others…

hmmmm. How on topic guys. Thanks for making examples of yourself for us all…

Beans, I wasn’t putting you down. I don’t feel any better about myself because you took offense to my comment. If anything, I want to curl up into a ball and cry myself to sleep over it. I was simply trying to tell you what you want to hear. If saying someone doesn’t look like they’re on is putting them down, then saying someone looks like they’re on must be the inverse of that. Right? Take what you can get. If someone asks, tell them no. What other option is there? Allowing other’s comments to upset you is a sign of emotional weakness. Are you getting emotional as a result of lowered test levels? Maybe your natural production is down because you just came off of a cycle? I’m here for you.[/quote]

Get owned for my city…haha

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
What if he were to respond with “Spinal erector hypertrophy as a result of excessive load bearing stimulas accompanied by a positive nitrogen balance is gross? What?”

Haha That will show her.

Or he could have used the tried and true. “You know what they say about the size of a guys spinal erectors…”

V[/quote]

I would have requested a massage :slight_smile:

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[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
ChickenNiglets wrote:

Don’t get too worked up over it countingbeans. If it makes you feel any better I don’t think you look like you’re on steroids at all.

LMAO - classic.

Hey, look at that, two people that like to make themselves feel better by putting down others…

hmmmm. How on topic guys. Thanks for making examples of yourself for us all…

Wow. You took that way too seriously. T’was only a joke…[/quote]

I don’t know man… It’s just more examples of the faceless critiquing others.

Skynet has public progress, and I respect he has enough character to be honest with his opinion and express it without making a new screen name. (Which I have zero intention of entertaining that conversation further.)

But the others are honestly just cowards putting people down without putting themselves out there. Judging from the safety of a position where they can’t be judged back themselves.

I’m not X big, or Le big, but not many of these people would say this shit to me in person.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Jereth127 wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
ChickenNiglets wrote:

Don’t get too worked up over it countingbeans. If it makes you feel any better I don’t think you look like you’re on steroids at all.

LMAO - classic.

Hey, look at that, two people that like to make themselves feel better by putting down others…

hmmmm. How on topic guys. Thanks for making examples of yourself for us all…

Wow. You took that way too seriously. T’was only a joke…

I don’t know man… It’s just more examples of the faceless critiquing others.

Skynet has public progress, and I respect he has enough character to be honest with his opinion and express it without making a new screen name. (Which I have zero intention of entertaining that conversation further.)

But the others are honestly just cowards putting people down without putting themselves out there. Judging from the safety of a position where they can’t be judged back themselves.

I’m not X big, or Le big, but not many of these people would say this shit to me in person. [/quote]

I’m sorry beans but you need to get off the internet toughguy thing. What are you gonna do if someone says something to you in “person”? You gonna punch em and beat em down for words? I mean come on seriously. Lets say you are a big guy, thats fair, I believe you, but when are you going to start acting like a MAN and not a meathead? Just because you have size, does not mean you get to win an argument, or that you are right. If you can’t back your shit up with your intellect, I suggest going and hitting some books a couple times per week instead of the gym.

I agree with Sky, a lot of times you contribute some real quality shit around here, but then you go off rampaging and calling people out like some 17 year old kid who just got done listening to Vulgar Display of Power for the first time. Relax, there are dillweeds on here, and there are a LOT of normal people who act like dill weeds. Some people do it on purpose just to bust balls, others are just having a bad day. I’m only doing this for your benefit BTW I mean there is some room for growth here, I’m not just trying to bust your balls. I want you to grow as a person, not just in arm size or bench numbers, but emotionally as well.

V

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In going with the theme about having employers question steroid usage…is that even legal? I mean it’s illegal for them to ask other questions about your personal life that have no effect on your job so really what business, both morally and legally, is it of theirs whether or not you use steroids? Do they ask people if they take speed or coke when they stay on for a double 12 hour shift?

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I can testify that it can definitely make you perceived as less intelligent, less professional. It doesn’t necessarily help me that several of the executives at my company ‘workout’ where I ‘train’.