Edited it all because of bad science on my end
I wouldn’t want to hang such a theory on one invitro study, or insinuate that keto diets cause blocked arteries (most shitty diets should accomplish that). You would only have to look at the traditional Inuit diet to see such conditions were rare/nonexistent. So, it’s no rabbit hole really.
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Inuits don’t follow a keto diet - that’s a myth. Many of them were shown to eat up to 20 percent carbs. Also, all those studies about a lack of cardiovascular disease were fraudulent. All speculation. There was an article posted on the Canadian Journal of Cardiology that “leads us to the conclusion that Eskimos have a prevalence of [heart disease] similar to non-Eskimo population, they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes, their overall mortality is twice as high as that of non-Eskimo populations, and their life expectancy is approximately 10 years shorter than the Danish population.” Its a decades old myth, the whole thing.
Really, I do not recall reading anything that the work by Vilhjalmur Stefansson had been debunked.
Ok so I will deal with that one since there’s a lot of follow up information.
There’s a study that Dominic D’aogistino did on rats to look at metastatic cancer and exogenous ketone supplementation even in a caloric surplus. The rats that had the diet in conjunction with the ketone supplementation (with tumors) had survival rates upwards of 60% compared to the control group.
This actually changed some thinking in the way of how ketogenic diets work against cancer (potentially). With the theory being that it was the starving of glucose to the cancer cells that showed promise in cancer treatments. But it could be that ketone bodies actually are toxic to cancer itself.
Dom and I are friends so I could bang him up for the mountain of studies he references regarding keto diets, ketones, and the starvation of cancer cells (but he takes forever and a day to get back with me because he’s kinda busy).
If I had to add the caveat to this it would be that keto diets done in a caloric deficit aren’t going to have any negative side effects in association with it. I would assume that a keto diet in a caloric surplus, just like any other diet done in a surplus, would have some negative side effects associated with it. I mean, it’s not like non-keto people aren’t suffering from clogged arteries. That seems to be an issue society wide in virtually any surplus dietary condition.
More research needs to be done, but we’ve got enough animal model studies to see that there is probably something good about going keto if you’re suffering from some sort of metabolic disease.
Ill try to find the author and podcast, but there was a great MD talking about how ketogenic diets and fasting (autophagy) really hampered cancer cells. It might of been Rhonda Patrick, I cant remember. Ill look later
I’ve edited my previous post after doing exactly what Rogan has done and being baffled by how much better everything has been for me on a carnivore diet (beef+chicken+fish all day, milk PWO). I knew I was a protein fiend, but I was fat phobic because of all the brainwashing we get taught and all the plant based narrative floating around.
Fuck that.
I hope Rogan keeps doing what’s incredibly efficient at resetting gut health like nothing else. More people need to trial that for a month and then reintroduce extremely low inflammation foods possibly maybe. I’m cool with fruit… pineapple and berries.
Big Saladino supporter, now that he’s taken on those plant based zealots with a degree.