[quote]H factor wrote:
Lol at America not having abortions long before it was allowed. Making things illegal stops them from happening says heroin users, rapists, and murderers. [/quote]
Good post.
People were doing them with a closet hanger even when there were clinics.
Abortion clinics made it safer so people didn’t die doing it themselves.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
License plate making can support a woman and her 5 children? I need to reconsider my career path I didn’t realize there were so many opportunities, must be a shortage of prisoners or something.[/quote]
Shouldn’t have 5 kids if all you can do is make license plates.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
License plate making can support a woman and her 5 children? I need to reconsider my career path I didn’t realize there were so many opportunities, must be a shortage of prisoners or something.[/quote]
Dude, it’s like 6 figures now.
They pay like 70 an hour if you can draw really well.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
License plate making can support a woman and her 5 children? I need to reconsider my career path I didn’t realize there were so many opportunities, must be a shortage of prisoners or something.[/quote]
Shouldn’t have 5 kids if all you can do is make license plates. [/quote]
It is great to look at “should, coulda, woulda”, huh?
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. Somehow all these unwanted children were allowed to live. I doubt they wish they were aborted. [/quote]
How do you know some were allowed to live? People today leave newborns in dumpsters. How many were left on church doorsteps? How many ended up in some coal mine?
Isn’t there a law that states a girl/woman can leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked? Someone will have to pay to care for the kid.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
License plate making can support a woman and her 5 children? I need to reconsider my career path I didn’t realize there were so many opportunities, must be a shortage of prisoners or something.[/quote]
Shouldn’t have 5 kids if all you can do is make license plates. [/quote]
I doubt anyone would disagree. The problem is letting a child suffer for something it has no control over.
Babie’s life vs. Mother’s freedom. When you boil it down that’s really the isse. All BS aside, I’m siding with the baby every single time.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. Somehow all these unwanted children were allowed to live. I doubt they wish they were aborted. [/quote]
How do you know some were allowed to live? People today leave newborns in dumpsters. How many were left on church doorsteps? How many ended up in some coal mine?
Isn’t there a law that states a girl/woman can leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked? Someone will have to pay to care for the kid. [/quote]
Hey, out of sight out of mind…just like the guy who is ok with people dying by the thousands by eliminating welfare but is against “murder”.
Loss of life isn’t even the issue.
I just don’t see God saying, “well, you didn’t directly kill anyone…and I will just ignore your decisions led to the deaths of 5,000…so COME ON IN!!”
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Babie’s life vs. Mother’s freedom. When you boil it down that’s really the isse. All BS aside, I’m siding with the baby every single time. [/quote]
It is two lives. That is the issue…not just the kid’s life or the mom’s life…and I would personally say the one with a conscious mind has the responsibility to look out for herself first.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. [/quote]
Could you give a timeframe of when this period existed please? Or did you mean legal abortions?
Edit: never mind, I see this has been addressed.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Babie’s life vs. Mother’s freedom. When you boil it down that’s really the isse. All BS aside, I’m siding with the baby every single time. [/quote]
That’s one thing but what is being questioned is how someone (and I’m not saying you) can have that position yet at the same time condemn public assistance.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. Somehow all these unwanted children were allowed to live. I doubt they wish they were aborted. [/quote]
How do you know some were allowed to live? People today leave newborns in dumpsters. How many were left on church doorsteps? How many ended up in some coal mine?
Isn’t there a law that states a girl/woman can leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked? Someone will have to pay to care for the kid. [/quote]
I don’t think anyone against abortions is for them being duped in a trash can…
At least the child left on church/hospital doorsteps has a chance. You would prefer the kid dead than someone having to care for it?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. [/quote]
Could you give a timeframe of when this period existed please? Or did you mean legal abortions?[/quote]
Mind you, those legal abortions ended all of that bleeding out that was going on and infection.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. Somehow all these unwanted children were allowed to live. I doubt they wish they were aborted. [/quote]
How do you know some were allowed to live? People today leave newborns in dumpsters. How many were left on church doorsteps? How many ended up in some coal mine?
Isn’t there a law that states a girl/woman can leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked? Someone will have to pay to care for the kid. [/quote]
I don’t think anyone against abortions is for them being duped in a trash can…
At least the child left on church/hospital doorsteps has a chance. You would prefer the kid dead than someone having to care for it?[/quote]
Dude, once again what the hell happens after week 2?
You will be gone after your screaming of being against all abortions…and that kid will still be there needing to be fed and taken care of.
So…are you for those government programs to make that happen?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. [/quote]
Could you give a timeframe of when this period existed please? Or did you mean legal abortions?
Edit: never mind, I see this has been addressed.[/quote]
Sure legal abortions. Do you think there are more abortions now that they are legal or less?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
License plate making can support a woman and her 5 children? I need to reconsider my career path I didn’t realize there were so many opportunities, must be a shortage of prisoners or something.[/quote]
Shouldn’t have 5 kids if all you can do is make license plates. [/quote]
Yes because the issue in America is that educated people with money are having bigger families while uneducated people with less money are not having kids.
Oh wait, that’s not what’s happening at ALL.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]H factor wrote:
Lol at America not having abortions long before it was allowed. Making things illegal stops them from happening says heroin users, rapists, and murderers. [/quote]
Good post.
People were doing them with a closet hanger even when there were clinics.
Abortion clinics made it safer so people didn’t die doing it themselves.[/quote]
So we should make raping legal? Murder is illegal too and that is happening. Should we legalize that?
In 2008, approximately 1.21 million abortions took place in the U.S., down from an estimated 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions have occurred in the U.S. (AGI).
So…I assume those against abortion are for the government programs to potentially take care of these million kids?
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
You would prefer the kid dead than someone having to care for it?[/quote]
That’s the question: someone (taxpayers) will have to care for it but those who are vehemently against abortion tend to also be against public assistance. They also, incongruously, tend to be for laws like stand your ground. On the one hand life is sacred, on the other, if given the choice to disengage or kill (legally), they choose kill.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Somewhere in a time far far away in a place called Earth, and a country called America, society worked just fine without abortions. [/quote]
Could you give a timeframe of when this period existed please? Or did you mean legal abortions?
Edit: never mind, I see this has been addressed.[/quote]
Sure legal abortions. Do you think there are more abortions now that they are legal or less? [/quote]
More. Do you think more mothers survive or less?