Abortion Kills Mostly Blacks

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
261

[quote]AssOnGrass wrote:
How can you feel uncomfortable around people who are ethnically different without subconsciously making a qualitative judgment>>> [/quote]

I didn’t say they felt uncomfortable around people who are ethnically different. I said they felt most comfortable around people who are most like them, but maybe we’re splitting hairs.

If you want to roll that into the definition of racism and say that racism on that level isn’t evil then fine. It’s just that the vernacular has come to mean falsely construing a group or individual as inferior or extra depraved as an intrinsic function of their ethnicity which is entirely untrue.

IE “that guy is a criminal because he’s black” or “blacks as a race are more criminally inclined” or “a higher percentage of blacks are poor and on welfare because they’re racially lazier than whites” all of which is fallacious.

However, as a percentage of their demographic blacks ARE poorer and on welfare more often than whites. A higher percentage of blacks ARE in prison than whites as a result of being convicted by a jury of their peers.

It is not racist to merely cite those statistics as I have been occasionally accused of being. There was a guy I worked with in New York who jumped on me like a big dog because I had the temerity to point out that the vast majority of violent crime in NYC was black on black and that 70 some odd percent of black children in NYC were born out of wedlock.

This guy got in my face with: [quote]"OHHHH YA HATE NIGGERS HUH!!! IT"S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE KEEPING MY PEOPLE DOWN!!! AND ON AND ON!!![/quote]

I was like “Dude, I’m just telling you the numbers which happen to be inescapable. I find it tragic and would like to see a solution”

Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

The bottom line is we aren’t going to get anywhere as long as federally sanctioned racism goes on whether it be slavery or social programs. Until everybody is actually treated the same there’s going to be toxic and unnecessary tension between people of different ethnic backgrounds in this country.

262

No. That’s a fact.

263

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact. [/quote]

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.

264

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.[/quote]

265

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.[/quote]

Do I have to get training to apply? I am almost in that age demographic. Marching there.

Just to stir a shit storm, why is Obama referred to as a black man?

266

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.

Do I have to get training to apply? I am almost in that age demographic. Marching there.

Just to stir a shit storm, why is Obama referred to as a black man?
[/quote]

Because if you saw him at Applebees with his wife and kids you would not say, “There goes a proud white man with his black family”.

267

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.

Do I have to get training to apply? I am almost in that age demographic. Marching there.

Just to stir a shit storm, why is Obama referred to as a black man?

Because if you saw him at Applebees with his wife and kids you would not say, “There goes a proud white man with his black family”.

[/quote]

You are correct, I probably wouldn’t notice him if he weren’t president-elect.

268

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.

Do I have to get training to apply? I am almost in that age demographic. Marching there.

Just to stir a shit storm, why is Obama referred to as a black man?

Because if you saw him at Applebees with his wife and kids you would not say, “There goes a proud white man with his black family”.

[/quote]

OK, but see how ridiculous this gets?

And I’m not saying you necessarily are doing this though maybe you are. During the campaign some group was saying that Obama doesn’t count because he doesn’t have any slave blood.

The guy isn’t fully black in any case because there’s plenty of white faces on his mother’s side.

Maybe he actually does have some Arabic blood tossed in there somewhere. However he does look pretty typical for a medium skinned North American, 20th century born, nappy haired black guy with a smattering of Caucasian a couple generations back.

Michelle is black, but the kiddies look whiter than her though blacker than him.

The point is WHO CARES.? I sure don’t. My problems with him are on principle, just like with Biden who is whiter than the wind driven snow… All this preoccupation with race is exactly what I thought we were trying to get away from, but no. You mark my words, every single time this guy pulls some sophomoric ultra leftist move out will come the predictable voices crying about how people are picking on him because he’s black.

Racism will never be further diminished while public policy and officials continue to be tied up in race and here’s a news flash. Black members of our government and the public professional blacks are the ones who will never let it die because their race driven careers depend on it.

269

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Geeez, it also happens that most serial and mass murderers are white. Am I supposed to assume somebody is a white cracker hating lunatic racist for saying that?

No. That’s a fact.

Virtually all serial killers are white middle aged men.

Do I have to get training to apply? I am almost in that age demographic. Marching there.

Just to stir a shit storm, why is Obama referred to as a black man?

Because if you saw him at Applebees with his wife and kids you would not say, “There goes a proud white man with his black family”.

OK, but see how ridiculous this gets?

And I’m not saying you necessarily are doing this though maybe you are. During the campaign some group was saying that Obama doesn’t count because he doesn’t have any slave blood.

The guy isn’t fully black in any case because there’s plenty of white faces on his mother’s side.

Maybe he actually does have some Arabic blood tossed in there somewhere. However he does look pretty typical for a medium skinned North American, 20th century born, nappy haired black guy with a smattering of Caucasian a couple generations back.

Michelle is black, but the kiddies look whiter than her though blacker than him.

The point is WHO CARES.? I sure don’t. My problems with him are on principle, just like with Biden who is whiter than the wind driven snow… All this preoccupation with race is exactly what I thought we were trying to get away from, but no. You mark my words, every single time this guy pulls some sophomoric ultra leftist move out will come the predictable voices crying about how people are picking on him because he’s black.

Racism will never be further diminished while public policy and officials continue to be tied up in race and here’s a news flash. Black members of our government and the public professional blacks are the ones who will never let it die because their race driven careers depend on it.[/quote]

Racism exists because of perception, not because of scientific studies and blood tests. I am not “100% black” and have written that in this thread already. However, not one person on the street or here is going to think that when they see me or give a shit. They will treat me as if I am “black” and nothing more or less.

That is why Tiger Woods is related by some as being black even though he is half Asian.

For centuries, blacks had skin color thrown into their faces and this did not end until maybe a decade ago so this attitude like blacks alone perpetuated a focus on race is ludicrous at best and blatantly retarded at worse.

You don’t heal from that in a couple of years and if you think all of the talk that blacks just voted for the black guy isn’t racially motivated as well (as if blacks don’t pay attention to issues at all), then you need help all around.

Have a great one.

270

[quote]Professor X wrote:
<<< Racism exists because of perception, not because of scientific studies and blood tests. I am not “100% black” and have written that in this thread already. However, not one person on the street or here is going to think that when they see me or give a shit. They will treat me as if I am “black” and nothing more or less.

That is why Tiger Woods is related by some as being black even though he is half Asian.

For centuries, blacks had skin color thrown into their faces and this did not end until maybe a decade ago so this attitude like blacks alone perpetuated a focus on race is ludicrous at best and blatantly retarded at worse.

You don’t heal from that in a couple of years and if you think all of the talk that blacks just voted for the black guy isn’t racially motivated as well (as if blacks don’t pay attention to issues at all), then you need help all around.

Have a great one.[/quote]

Now why are you getting pissy with me?

I don’t even disagree with most of what you’ve said in this post.

I did not say… ever… that blacks alone, or even at all, perpetuated, past tense, the focus on race. What I did say is going forward the professional blacks will be the ones who perpetuate it because it’s demise is their demise. They have built their careers on it.

During this campaign from the primary on, every single syllable uttered by anybody concerning Obama’s race was from Obama himself or his supporters, except Bill Clinton in response to their pointing it at him.

Every single word you will ever hear me say concerning race is predicated on the idea that until skin color is a non factor… period, in either direction, these idiotic tensions that are now even popping up between you and I will continue to unnecessarily fester.

“Legislated equality” is the exact recipe for making sure race relations will never improve in this country, but like I say, the professional ethnics have an interest in seeing that this improvement never happens. Racism empowers them.

271

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

“Legislated equality” is the exact recipe for making sure race relations will never improve in this country, but like I say, the professional ethnics have an interest in seeing that this improvement never happens. Racism empowers them. [/quote]

Some “legislated equality” was needed if there was ever going to be a day that race relations could improve. That would NOT happen while my dad who was college educated was hired as floor staff (janitorial work) in the early 70’s or why he was paid less for the same job as his lighter skinned coworkers when he got promoted to working sales at Sears.

The ONLY question is whether it is needed now.

272

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

“Legislated equality” is the exact recipe for making sure race relations will never improve in this country, but like I say, the professional ethnics have an interest in seeing that this improvement never happens. Racism empowers them.

Some “legislated equality” was needed if there was ever going to be a day that race relations could improve. That would NOT happen while my dad who was college educated was hired as floor staff (janitorial work) in the early 70’s or why he was paid less for the same job as his lighter skinned coworkers when he got promoted to working sales at Sears.

The ONLY question is whether it is needed now.[/quote]

I would argue in this day and age it actually hinders business and professional interactions, because of the special interest legislation involved peopled are afraid to make good business decisions, not just a race thinkg but on a lot of levels.

People should be looked at for who they are and waht they have done.

273

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

“Legislated equality” is the exact recipe for making sure race relations will never improve in this country, but like I say, the professional ethnics have an interest in seeing that this improvement never happens. Racism empowers them.

Some “legislated equality” was needed if there was ever going to be a day that race relations could improve. That would NOT happen while my dad who was college educated was hired as floor staff (janitorial work) in the early 70’s or why he was paid less for the same job as his lighter skinned coworkers when he got promoted to working sales at Sears.

The ONLY question is whether it is needed now.[/quote]

This is where it gets very very tough because I DO hear what you are saying and I have to believe that not having ever been black makes it easier for me to reach some of the conclusions I have.

That said, I don’t think there was ANY really good path once Africans had spent a hundred plus years as slaves in this country , but what we’ve done has been a disaster. I see it every day.

Had we de-institutionalized racism and let consciences catch up it may be true that your Dad would have missed some of that benefit, but I bet today many more blacks would be much better off.

Not to mention I REALLY believe much much less racial tension would be present in our society and the stereotypes, which have been protracted as a result of legislated effort would be much less prevalent. I don’t say that lightly.

274

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< That’s called bias. That is not called “racism”. Someone black may truly feel more comfortable around their own ethnicity and this does not mean they have negative thoughts about an entire race specifically. >>>

Look at that. We agree on something here. I don’t know exactly what the scholarly sociological term is for this, but I’m sure somebody has one.

Ethnic Affinity maybe?

Lemme give an example. When I worked at Ford’s product development center there were engineers there from 30 or 40 countries, maybe more. 6,000 total users in the building.

There are 3 major cafeteria’s in that building complex and if you walk in any one of them you will see people voluntarily segregated into groups obviously by ethnicity. They all speak English well enough so that is not the explanation.

The explanation is that human beings have some sort of innate social mechanism by which they feel most comfortable around those that are most like them. That does not mean that they look askance at other races or even that they feel theirs is better. It just means that they feel most comfortable in the company of their ethnic fellows for whatever exact reason.

I didn’t get the impression that most of these folks had any racist tendencies, but there they are every day all sitting together. I think this is just how people are and it’s neither good or bad by itself.[/quote]

Exactly. People like those who are like themselves. Physical features such as skin color are an obvious difference. Having something in common is a good way to feel affinity.