AAS and Aerobic Endurance

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Can anyone explain the effects (preferably through personal experience) of steroids on aerobic endurance?

Back in my foolish youth, when I used to run marathons and triathlons, one of the limiting factors in my training was going over the catabolic threshold.

Too many miles would eventually tip the balance so I was tearing down more than I was building up…I could just about feel the cortisol racing through my veins and eating what little muscle I had.

Since AAS tips the anabolic/catabolic balance the other way, can I assume that while on gear I could do a lot of endurance work without going totally catabolic and burning out?

Can I do a pretty good amount of aerobic work (long slow distance type stuff, not HIIT) in addition to my weights and expect to continue to see gains in both…albeit not as much as I would see if I specialized in either?

The reason I ask is that I have an opportunity coming up where I will need both strength and long-distance type endurance, and I am tryig to put together a program to get me there ASAP. Am I going to have to resort to Crossfit?

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Yes…I feel as though you can do more cardio and stay anabolic longer on AAS. When I took anavar, I noticed that running was near impossible due to calf pumps. However, my wrestling and fighting endurance was much higher…and I hardly got exhausted after numerous sets at the gym. Basically alot of AAS increases red blood cell count…

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Though cardiovascular health can suffer with compounds such as Trenbolone, making cardio hard. So don’t take Tren if you plan on doing a lot of cardiovascular work.

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I’ve found a high dose of test (over 1 gram/week) to increase my aerobic capacity significantly.

Didn’t notice much increase at 500mg or 800mg though.

Art

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Tren has been a drug that I can without a doubt say has an impact of my cardiovascular performance. Within several weeks I notice shortness of breath from levels that were previously used often without problem. This goes away just as quickly once the drug is discontinued. Not being an endurance athlete I don’t usually care about this aspect because the strength gains more than make up for it.

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I was wondering about this very thing.

as my main form of exersize will be alot of cardio with a couple max effort days.
if I would have a test/tren mix at say 75%/25% repectfully I could see this same loss of breath and such?

I have heard of tren causing great strength gains but horrible carido performance.

and if thats the case and test would not hurt it the same way would it be wise to run test alone for say 5 weeks in a cardio phase then run the test/tren for 3-4 weeks for a strength phase after the long distance stuff and then whatever pct or taper after that?

just thinking outloud here because it seems my goals this time around are close to the same as the Ops here.

my idea was a few weeks focus on endurance then a few weeks focus on strength.
whith a major/minor componant of sorts

like running/weights and then when your done you flip it to weights/running

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
You have muddled your question.

You ask about the effects on aerobic endurance, but then go on to ask about effects on cortisol, which is not the same thing.

Test increases the number of RBCs per unit volume, thereby giving your blood more O2 carrying capacity. This improves aerobic endurance.

Test partially blocks the action of cortisol, maintaining a pro-anabolic state and reducing catabolism. This has little to do with aerobic performance as such, however it does mean that you should retain more muscle during bouts of prolonged exercsie - all other things being equal.

Hope that helps.[/quote]

yes, I see that now…

I am not asking whether AAS will increase my performance, such as being able to run a marathon faster. What I am looking for is increased tolerance to long duration ‘aerobic’ type workouts, which you pretty much answer in the second part of your answer, and is now pretty obvious to me after a few moments thought.

Of course, the assumption there is that increasing long-duration aerobics type workouts would have a positive effect on endurance capacity/performance, which, in the absence of anything like tren, I suppose would be true.

As for those who mentioned tren…I had an interesting experience at this year’s Arnold Classic in the pump and run (the pump ‘n’ run is where you bench press your bodyweight and then 30 sec is taken off your 5K run time for each rep you complete)…I was entered in the competition and planning to start a tren cycle, but was going to wait until immediately after the race due to tren’s well known endurance killing effects. Well, to make a long-story short, I decided to jump the gun by about a week, figuring the tren will not have ‘kicked in’ enough to adversely affect my running performance…

My bench was amazing and I got 27 reps…but then came the 5K run…in 29 minutes!!! I thought the clock must be broken - I normally run a 5K in about 21 minutes. …and that was as good as my ‘aerobic’ performance got for the rest of the tren cycle - it got so I was winded walking up a flight of stairs. But I DID have an amazing bench, so I’ve always got that…

Older, but sadly no wiser…

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I’m planning on doing a test/tren cycle in August with one goal in mind: gaining as much muscle mass as humanly possible. Cardio won’t be a problem for me because it won’t even be a word in my repertoire for the next 6 - 7 months haha.

As for my 5k time, I’m not sure. I know I could do it in 18, but I’m not sure how much faster I could really push it.

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A whole bunch depends which AAS products we are speaking of. I’m currently on dbol tren and test. If I have to take two flights of stairs my thighs and calves get super pumped from the dbol but I am so winded from the tren.

TREN IS A CARDIO KILLER. Even on just the dbol I might find the flow of blood too much if the duration of the activity was excessive as it usually is for aerobic endurance stuff