A.Silva vs Machida Needs to Happen

that will be an interesting fight as there both counter strikers so it would be largely both of them dancing around waiting for the other to make the first move

[quote]admbaum wrote:
A.Silva vs Lesnar will never happen. Silva had to struggle to get to 205 and Lesnar has to cut to 265. I just cant see A.Silva being willing to fight someone that big. There is just no one in MW or LHW that can present either fighter a reasonable challenge.[/quote]

Silva Lesnar is the only good fight I can see right now. Unless Rampage can somehow hone his skills, he’s the only one with the strength and speed to match Silva right now, but lacks skills and he’s possibly taking depressant drugs that kill agressiveness.

Silva Machida would be a horrible fight if they made it happen. They would basically spar, and not seriuosly try to embarass or hurt each other. What kind of fight would that be? Either someone new needs to come out, or let him fight lesner. Well…if they can get Fedor into the UFC that would be another story.

A.Silva vs GSP, no title, catch weight, 190 seems reasonable for both. But thats a stretch since they both have more money than they know what to do with. Why risk injury?

[quote]admbaum wrote:
A.Silva vs GSP, no title, catch weight, 190 seems reasonable for both. But thats a stretch since they both have more money than they know what to do with. Why risk injury?[/quote]

Since when does the UFC operate like this? The champ is the champ because he is the BEST at that weight. Let him retire as champ for all I care. People were calling Chuck unstoppable for a while too…

And BTW, my suggestion of Lesnar v. Silva is purely in jest. He would be smothered, imo, and IF brock could get him down, it would be over due to strength.

Gsp last fight was against Thiago Alves…the biggest welterweight ever…Gsp destroyed him…why not Silva-Gsp…i dont think Silva can’t stop Gsp takedown…

[quote]admbaum wrote:
A.Silva vs Lesnar will never happen. Silva had to struggle to get to 205 and Lesnar has to cut to 265. I just cant see A.Silva being willing to fight someone that big. There is just no one in MW or LHW that can present either fighter a reasonable challenge.[/quote]

??? Silva walks around at 220+…

[quote]dhickey wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:

Here it is folks!

Some interesting match-ups there, but I do want to see him against Henderson and maybe Marquart again. Never been an okami fan. I am sure Henderson would rather get another shot at Silva rather than fighting someone else for a vacant belt. Henderson/Marquart would be a good fight though.

Machida - Silva said he wouldn’t fight him. Maybe just a ploy by both for big $$?
Rua - The fight I would most like to see. They should make this happen regardless of weight class and titles held.
Jones - Maybe in a year?
Mousasi - Maybe in a year?
Rampage - Very slightly intereested
Evans - Not that interested unless he actually decided to use his wrestling.
Tito/Vera/Jardine - next on the list but not that interested.

Little OT but wonder how Rich would feel about AS moving up? Poor guy. It get the sense Dana is more than willing to give him big money fights, but that they may not be thinking title shot for him. He’ll probalby get Tito at some point.[/quote]

I’d like to see Hendo go at him again, but not sure the outcome would be much different. Marquart doesn’t seem to have the skills or killer instinct to pose a real threat. He’s one of those fighters that I want to like, but do to style and application I just can’t. I think a big wrestler with KO power and a solid gameplan would be Silvas toughest matchup in MMA right now.

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Liv92 wrote:
Silva vs GSP, I think Silva would murder him. Silva is too big, and GSP has always had problems against good strikers (Matt Serra, BJ Penn.) Now imagine Silva a bigger and much better striker then both imo, he would end GSP…

My question is, why should GSP even consider moving up a class to fight? Anyone who says they should fight should include that if they were to fight, Silva should have to drop down. GSP has stated he is somewhat a natural at that weight class [i]and unlike Silva, doesn’t cut 20 pounds or more to make fight weight.[/i]

There are weight classes for a reason… Now, if there was a UFC Grand Prix, hell, I’d bet on Silva to beat everyone, even all the heavies. But this isn’t Pride.

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wait, were you agreeing with me?

I think they need to make Machida vs Silva happen no matter what. That fight would be so epic… Even if they are friends, they are also athletes. I don’t think they would “spar” in the ring. They have a job to attend to.
Plus I think they’d leave all feelings outside the ring. What happens in the ring stays in the ring, lol.

Personally…I’d rather see Machida run through the rest of 205lbs before any talk of him and Silva.

Seriously,let Machida have time to defend his belt before trying to match him against someone from his same camp. Let him have time to enjoy that belt :wink:

[quote]admbaum wrote:
A.Silva vs Lesnar will never happen. Silva had to struggle to get to 205 and Lesnar has to cut to 265. I just cant see A.Silva being willing to fight someone that big. There is just no one in MW or LHW that can present either fighter a reasonable challenge.[/quote]

Struggle to get to 205? He walks around at 220…I could see him fighting a smaller heavyweight like couture or someone…Hopefully couture gets a crack at machida like he says…Jon Jones is going to be ferocious soon, if he is not already…Luis Arthur Cane for him anyone?

this could be a sticking point for the UFC…It has not happened before to this scale, but friends refusing to fight each other…You can have silva, to become the first ever guy to have dual titles, and it will not happen as long as Machida has the belt…I say if he fights at 205 again, it has to be for the title or a very top end guy…

my two cents

I do not think Silva can stop the GSP takedown…But due to Silva’s reach, I am sure he would outstrike him…I think that fight is a few years away…but it will happen, maybe at a catch weight

I think Griffin simply came in with a shit gameplan. Feel it out for the first round, then take it to the ground in the second is what he was likely thinking. Well his dumb ass got rocked because he can’t keep his chin down. Simply underestimation of the competition. Silva hasn’t had that many fights at 205 so we really don’t know what he can take at 205 and what he can dish out. Well it’s fucking obvious now…:slight_smile:

Game over.

so you guys are saying that before Silva fights, he undergoes a 40lb cut to fight at 185? Gonna have to call shenanigins here. Most of Silva’s fights are at 185. He fights Hendo at 185 to defend the MW belt.

[quote]admbaum wrote:
so you guys are saying that before Silva fights, he undergoes a 40lb cut to fight at 185? Gonna have to call shenanigins here. Most of Silva’s fights are at 185. He fights Hendo at 185 to defend the MW belt.[/quote]

I’d believe he walks around at 205 or somewhere in that neighborhood. 220 is kind of a stretch, but who knows?

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Personally…I’d rather see Machida run through the rest of 205lbs before any talk of him and Silva.

Seriously,let Machida have time to defend his belt before trying to match him against someone from his same camp. Let him have time to enjoy that belt ;-)[/quote]

I agree. There are plenty of good match-ups for them both. People seem to think these two are indestructable and no other fights would be competitive.

I am pumped for Machida / Rua. Whether he wins or loses, if Rua looks good his next fight should be Silva. Verty interesting match-up if Rua is back in top form.

Anyone with really good takedowns and GnP or BJJ would make for an interesting match-up as well. Just don’t stick him in there with guys determined to bang with him but lacking the skill to do so.

Forrest walks around at 240, Joe Stevenson 200 sometimes, fighters lose some weight during training camp before cutting. The fight neds to happen soon, Silva has three fights left on his contract and fights often so it needs to happen soon.

[quote]admbaum wrote:
so you guys are saying that before Silva fights, he undergoes a 40lb cut to fight at 185? Gonna have to call shenanigins here. Most of Silva’s fights are at 185. He fights Hendo at 185 to defend the MW belt.[/quote]

Why? Forrest Griffin walks around at 240-ish. Thiago Alves walks around at 208 and fights at 170. Joe Riggs supposedly cuts close to 50lbs to make weight at welter. There are quite a few guys who cut massive amounts of weight to fight, and most of 'em have been doing it for years and are quite good at it.

I think that Anderson will get a few more fights before he gets a crack at the LHW title. In the mean time I also think Machida will loose, and we will never ever see Machida v. Silva (even though i want to see a serious fight between the two). If I had to pick someone to beat Machida in the next year it would be Jones. Likewise, I believe that Jones v Silva would be a great fight down the road. In 18 months I think that Jones will be at the beginning of a Matt Hughes type “Era”. Just some bold predictions based on Jones’ progress. You heard it here first.

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