[quote]CaptainLogic wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
PS I can’t wait to drink some decent Canadian beeer instead of this pisswater budweiser shit we have down here.
I heard the American government forces all US beer companies to make their products taste like shit. It’s part of the ‘War on Drugs’.[/quote]
That program is unfortunately working as most of the domestic stuff is weak.
Sam Adams however bucks the trend quite nicely.
[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Doogie is a douche. We have a small military because our liberal government as corrupt as they may be is intelligent enough to know that giving health care to canadians is more important than bombing a nation over nothing. How dare you criticize our armed forces, look at the world wars you idiot. In ww1 we amassed an army of 800 000 from a population of like 8 million. You can bet ur ass that when a just cause arises in the near future our country will kick serious ass like before. We don’t need a fucking strong military in peace time.
I pissed my pants laughing at this. Whats the most successful war you’ve won? Keeping the Inuit up in the ice? Keeping yourself from becomiong the 14th colony over 200 years ago?
Please.[/quote]
we kicked your ass in 1812 bitch. Canadian troops also won one of the toughtest battles of ww1, vimmy ridge. Maybe your countrys right, its better to give up health care so we can go bomb a dessert for no reason.
[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Doogie is a douche. We have a small military because our liberal government as corrupt as they may be is intelligent enough to know that giving health care to canadians is more important than bombing a nation over nothing. How dare you criticize our armed forces, look at the world wars you idiot. In ww1 we amassed an army of 800 000 from a population of like 8 million. You can bet ur ass that when a just cause arises in the near future our country will kick serious ass like before. We don’t need a fucking strong military in peace time.
I pissed my pants laughing at this. Whats the most successful war you’ve won? Keeping the Inuit up in the ice? Keeping yourself from becomiong the 14th colony over 200 years ago?
Please.[/quote]
I think Canada did as much as it could when it had to. they were there on D-Day in normandy, they fought in WWI, even though that war concerned them about as much as it concerned us. What war have we had to fight besides these? The Spanish American War Korea? Vietnam? The Iraq War? All of these are wars that we either started on our own or took over for Imperialistic reasons. The only one that I would say was worth fighting was Korea.
What would happen if Canada dropped their universal health insurace, and started throwing money at the military to get it as big as ours? Would you look on Canada so positive then, if they actually were equal ( or near equal) to us?
[quote]Dandalex wrote:
It is true that Canada has a relatively small and obselete military, but the problem (from a military point of view) is that most Canadians don’t want to hear about increased military spending if it implies cutting in health care or other social services.
The population’s mindset on military issues is of course very different in Canada. For one, their is basically zero pride in our Armed Forces nor is their much recognition by the public. So, the military kinda has a hard time justifying itself, whereas in the States there is pride in behind the first military power in the world, having the most state of the art technoligies and you get respect from a large part of the population.
There was a very large flood in the Saguenay region in 1996.
''For two days in July 1996, torrential rains pounded the Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean region of Quebec and caused the worst flood in the province’s history. The floodwaters were so powerful they swept away a whole shopping complex, ripped apart homes and buried cars under mud. Scientists said it was a natural disaster likely to happen once every 10,000 years. The government called it “an act of God.” Two hundred and ninety millimetres of rainfall fell in less than 36 hours and caused an estimated $1 billion in damages in the region and at least 10 deaths. Thousands of homes, roads and bridges were washed out and there were downed power lines. A total of 15 825 people had to leave their homes. At least 20 major bridges were heavily damaged. More than 50 towns and villages were inundated, or main roads destroyed and electricity cut off. Aluminum plants and paper mills slowed or closed for a month. At least 3200 industry workers were idled and three schools were closed. The Canadian Red Cross sent 1600 volunteers to set up a temp office and evacuate people. Overall, they assisted 16 000 people.
‘’ There were some 10 deaths. Still some of the videos were freakin’ impressive.
In 1997, there was the ‘‘Flood of the Century’’ in Manitoba. On May 7 at Emerson, on the Manitoba-U.S. border, the river was 30 kilometres wide. The entire flood area covered 2000 square kilometres, including 200 000 hectares of farmland, about five per cent of the entire province?s farmland. Two thousand cattle and 45 000 laying hens were evacuated. As well, 22 000 people from rural areas and towns were evacuated, over 6000 from Winnipeg. Military help included 8,500 soldiers.
There also was the Ice Storm of 1998, in my city we lost power for some 30 odd days and had police and military presence.
So we very, very rarely get the kinds of floods or natural disasters that the US gets. Also there were none of the associated problems that were seen in NO, at least not to the extent of being mentioned on the News.
Maybe Canadians are more docile than Americans, when the police/military says ‘‘Go home, its curfew.’’ you go home and when they say ‘‘Get the Hell out!’’ you get the Hell out (usually they’re pretty nice.) Just throwing it out there.
And Yeah, Canada is America’s bitch and I LIKE IT!
AlexH.
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would you please leave canada. move down to the states so you are close to the american ass that you kiss. Britain is americas bitch. We smartly refused to go to iraq. Why aren’t i surprised ur from quebec.
Hmm, I think if Canada built up its military it would be preemptively invaded, just in case…
Yes, I’m kidding, calm the fuck down already.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Hmm, I think if Canada built up its military it would be preemptively invaded, just in case…
Yes, I’m kidding, calm the fuck down already.[/quote]
It depends, do you have oil?
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
vroom wrote:
Hmm, I think if Canada built up its military it would be preemptively invaded, just in case…
Yes, I’m kidding, calm the fuck down already.
It depends, do you have oil?[/quote]
Canada has a shit load of oil. We export almost as much oil to the US as saudi arabia does. The soft wood lumber issue is heating up and our government and businessmen are apparantly chatting with china and india about possible oil trade. If the deal goes through I wouldn’t be surprised to see marines battling chinese in my back yard.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Garrett W. wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Doogie is a douche. We have a small military because our liberal government as corrupt as they may be is intelligent enough to know that giving health care to canadians is more important than bombing a nation over nothing. How dare you criticize our armed forces, look at the world wars you idiot. In ww1 we amassed an army of 800 000 from a population of like 8 million. You can bet ur ass that when a just cause arises in the near future our country will kick serious ass like before. We don’t need a fucking strong military in peace time.
I pissed my pants laughing at this. Whats the most successful war you’ve won? Keeping the Inuit up in the ice? Keeping yourself from becomiong the 14th colony over 200 years ago?
Please.
I think Canada did as much as it could when it had to. they were there on D-Day in normandy, they fought in WWI, even though that war concerned them about as much as it concerned us. What war have we had to fight besides these? The Spanish American War Korea? Vietnam? The Iraq War? All of these are wars that we either started on our own or took over for Imperialistic reasons. The only one that I would say was worth fighting was Korea.
What would happen if Canada dropped their universal health insurace, and started throwing money at the military to get it as big as ours? Would you look on Canada so positive then, if they actually were equal ( or near equal) to us? [/quote]
How about the Cold War?
[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
Doogie is a douche. We have a small military because our liberal government as corrupt as they may be is intelligent enough to know that giving health care to canadians is more important than bombing a nation over nothing. How dare you criticize our armed forces, look at the world wars you idiot. In ww1 we amassed an army of 800 000 from a population of like 8 million. You can bet ur ass that when a just cause arises in the near future our country will kick serious ass like before. We don’t need a fucking strong military in peace time. [/quote]
Here I was reading through this semi-humorous post when I came across this piece of crap.
“Healthcare”, you can honestly sit there and tell me your wait-in-line for years, sorry - come back next month, we will see you when you are almost dead healthcare system works? You are bragging about a healthcare system so good that Canadian’s, who can afford it, come to the States for their care? Even the high-ranking Canadian Mister of health comes to the US for care. Your country is a prime example of why the Hillary push for socialized medicine failed; because it doesn’t work!
“Military”. Oh no, he didn’t! Dude, the only reason you are not speaking Russian right now is because there is a US State between you and Russia.
Your only perk is location. If you were not right next to the US you would have been taken over many, many, many times by anyone and everyone who felt like it. And then you might not be so smartass about saying how you are neutral and never in wars, etc. You only have that luxury because you are next to the US.
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Okay, first try to have a brain. (bunyan)
Plain and simple back in the day the Canadian army kicked ass, they were superb. Now we have shit, even the person in charge of the army said more funds are needed. I mean come on, get with reality. Every nation should be able to protect itself. Only reason Canada didnt go to Iraq is because they are scared that the terrorists would go after Canada and we cant even fuckin protect ourselves. By the way, why are you referring to the past army? We are living in 2005 not 1812 dumbass. Just to let you know Canada is now participating in a dangerous mission, and Im sorry that you whiny atitude will cry because, people will die, including CDN soldiers. Our Liberal government is corrupt. Do you want to know why we cant afford more money towards the army? Because our past governor general and many other levels of government have been taking nice trips across the world in luxury. The liberals are the biggest scam of a so called government. Most of the money Ottawa gives out goes to Quebec, not even Ontario, and this is to let all you folks in Ontario who voted the Liberals back in… again. Scandal after scandal, and all you do is turn your cheek, cuz you know its true. I am just wondering when ppl will get some balls and vote for the conservatives. I am tired of this dumbass biased gov’t. Nothing against our healthcare, but even healthcare here is shit, free but shitty, I would rather pay to get better service, though I think free should be still available. Sorry to say that the US is on a much better track than Canada, despite everything. If we had a major disaster we would need help from the US, and thats for damn sure. I would like to see how it would be dealt with. I actually find it quite amusing how even though quebec gets most of the money that is given to all proivinces and still cant fix their damn roads. unbelievable, and once you enter Ontario, the roads are great, figure that one out. We need a change of gov’t. sorry for the slight hijack.
By the way, spending some funds on the army is not to fund a war, its called there if you need it. Security, peace of mind. Maybe you should talk to some people that are in the army, maybe you will than realize how underfunded it is. We have fuckin weapons and tanks and helicopters that barely work, that are from WWII, and our Canadian soldiers dont even have enough materials to even do a fuckin peace keeping mission, dont open your mouth until you know the whole story.
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. And what is this bullshit I hear about long waits? I go to the doctor and the wait is 5-30 minutes. You hate universal health care until you get sick and go bankrupt. Most bankruptcies in the US are because of health related financial stress. In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. If I got cancer. the government takes care of it. If I was american my family would go under just keeping me alive.
Mike- If we were not by the states we would trade our large wealth of natural recources to other nations and they would take an interest in our security. Our army is shit now. But did you know it was even worse before both world wars, particulary the first. After a brief period of organizing the mass numbers of volunteers our army became powerful. We didn’t go to Iraq because it was probably the most worthless war ever. If you still think we should have gone even after what is now known then you are just plain dumb. Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm). America is not on the right track. Incompetant leadership will be their demise and china and india will hang them out dry economically and militarily. Can you please explain to me the justification for canada going to Iraq, or even the Americans going.
[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. And what is this bullshit I hear about long waits? I go to the doctor and the wait is 5-30 minutes. You hate universal health care until you get sick and go bankrupt. Most bankruptcies in the US are because of health related financial stress. In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. If I got cancer. the government takes care of it. If I was american my family would go under just keeping me alive.
Mike- If we were not by the states we would trade our large wealth of natural recources to other nations and they would take an interest in our security. Our army is shit now. But did you know it was even worse before both world wars, particulary the first. After a brief period of organizing the mass numbers of volunteers our army became powerful. We didn’t go to Iraq because it was probably the most worthless war ever. If you still think we should have gone even after what is now known then you are just plain dumb. Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm). America is not on the right track. Incompetant leadership will be their demise and china and india will hang them out dry economically and militarily. Can you please explain to me the justification for canada going to Iraq, or even the Americans going.[/quote]
P.B. You are right about U.S. HealthCare I know several working families that lost their homes because of Hospital Bills of their sick children.One family was lucky enough that a private group paid for a surgery for their child that insurance wouldnt approve.Then the IRS started hassling them about the donation of paying the bill,wanting them to pay taxes as if it was income and they didnt have money to pay had to sell home etc.I know other people that will never be able to own their own homes because they owe so much in medical bills they cant afford it & it would probably be taken away even if they could because of high med. expenses.
[quote]ron33 wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. And what is this bullshit I hear about long waits? I go to the doctor and the wait is 5-30 minutes. You hate universal health care until you get sick and go bankrupt. Most bankruptcies in the US are because of health related financial stress. In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. If I got cancer. the government takes care of it. If I was american my family would go under just keeping me alive.
Mike- If we were not by the states we would trade our large wealth of natural recources to other nations and they would take an interest in our security. Our army is shit now. But did you know it was even worse before both world wars, particulary the first. After a brief period of organizing the mass numbers of volunteers our army became powerful. We didn’t go to Iraq because it was probably the most worthless war ever. If you still think we should have gone even after what is now known then you are just plain dumb. Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm). America is not on the right track. Incompetant leadership will be their demise and china and india will hang them out dry economically and militarily. Can you please explain to me the justification for canada going to Iraq, or even the Americans going.
P.B. You are right about U.S. HealthCare I know several working families that lost their homes because of Hospital Bills of their sick children.One family was lucky enough that a private group paid for a surgery for their child that insurance wouldnt approve.Then the IRS started hassling them about the donation of paying the bill,wanting them to pay taxes as if it was income and they didnt have money to pay had to sell home etc.I know other people that will never be able to own their own homes because they owe so much in medical bills they cant afford it & it would probably be taken away even if they could because of high med. expenses.
[/quote]Also know several retired seniors that are trying to go back to work because medicine ,health care etc.are taking so much out of their in come they cant afford it.
[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. [/quote]
I don’t wonder, I know. They come because the shity drug companies sell drugs at a lower price to third world countries, and yes, that includes Canada. So they are coming to get drugs cheaper.
So is that a problem with the US healthcare system or a problem with the world-wide drug companies? It’s not the healthcare system. So it’s a trade issue.
Let me school you on your own system. Each Canadian province is allotted a certain amount of money based on the types of illness they treat on the average. There is only so much money they are given, no more. And only for certain conditions.
So if you get some strange disease, you are shit out of luck. If the money runs out to treat that condition, you wait. Just seeing your PCP is not what we are talking about. We are talking about treatment for serious conditions like cancer, heart disease, etc.
We are also talking about the best technology and latest treatments, which your system can’t afford and you therefore don’t get. That is why people from YOUR Government come to the US for treatment, while working stiffs like you get the 50-year-old technology and treatments. Just wait until you need this system and see how well you like it then.
True our healthcare does cost more, because it is the cutting edge and best quality. But it is also true that millions of people still get the care they need and don’t end up paying for it. Hospitals cannot turn people aware who need life threatening care based on their ability to pay. It’s the law!
You are an idiot! Explain to me how you keep the mentally ill off the streets if they don’t want treatment? Maybe Canada has a society where people are treated against their will, but we have laws against that in the US. If someone is mentally ill, but is not deemed a danger to self or others and is not gravely disabled, we cannot force them into treatment. So they go to the streets and we can’t do anything about it. So sport, there is treatment, they just have the right to refuse it. And duh, they are crazy, so they don’t choose the best options. Also, the mentally ill don’t cause very much crime, it’s the drug addicts. And yes, they can refuse treatment as well.
[quote]ron33 wrote:
ron33 wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. And what is this bullshit I hear about long waits? I go to the doctor and the wait is 5-30 minutes. You hate universal health care until you get sick and go bankrupt. Most bankruptcies in the US are because of health related financial stress. In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. If I got cancer. the government takes care of it. If I was american my family would go under just keeping me alive.
Mike- If we were not by the states we would trade our large wealth of natural recources to other nations and they would take an interest in our security. Our army is shit now. But did you know it was even worse before both world wars, particulary the first. After a brief period of organizing the mass numbers of volunteers our army became powerful. We didn’t go to Iraq because it was probably the most worthless war ever. If you still think we should have gone even after what is now known then you are just plain dumb. Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm). America is not on the right track. Incompetant leadership will be their demise and china and india will hang them out dry economically and militarily. Can you please explain to me the justification for canada going to Iraq, or even the Americans going.
P.B. You are right about U.S. HealthCare I know several working families that lost their homes because of Hospital Bills of their sick children.One family was lucky enough that a private group paid for a surgery for their child that insurance wouldnt approve.Then the IRS started hassling them about the donation of paying the bill,wanting them to pay taxes as if it was income and they didnt have money to pay had to sell home etc.I know other people that will never be able to own their own homes because they owe so much in medical bills they cant afford it & it would probably be taken away even if they could because of high med. expenses.
Also know several retired seniors that are trying to go back to work because medicine ,health care etc.are taking so much out of their in come they cant afford it.
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You are making a great case for lower taxes. Let’s compare the tax rate for US verse Canada!
You want to bitch about health care in canada. ooooohhhh poor you, cant afford it, sad story isnt it? Well maybe you should work for a company that offers benefits, like almost every one, and maybe you should get a better job, of course I agree that for some people, drugs can be expensive because they have to take so many. Im tired of having a safety net for people that take advantage of the system here in Canada. BTW you have no good ammo against the conservatives, absolutely nothing but shit talk. you’re theory is, well we r getting fucked now in the butt, so lets just let it continue, let the gov’t rape us, lets not take a chance with the gov’t. However I dont understand how you equate the conservatives with the US. The war in Iraq was necessary, and something was done, while you were too busy sliding your tampon in.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
ron33 wrote:
ron33 wrote:
paul bunyan wrote:
Lorisco-You too are a douche of the first order. You ever wonder why american seniors come across the border in mass numbers just to get life saving medication. And what is this bullshit I hear about long waits? I go to the doctor and the wait is 5-30 minutes. You hate universal health care until you get sick and go bankrupt. Most bankruptcies in the US are because of health related financial stress. In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. If I got cancer. the government takes care of it. If I was american my family would go under just keeping me alive.
Mike- If we were not by the states we would trade our large wealth of natural recources to other nations and they would take an interest in our security. Our army is shit now. But did you know it was even worse before both world wars, particulary the first. After a brief period of organizing the mass numbers of volunteers our army became powerful. We didn’t go to Iraq because it was probably the most worthless war ever. If you still think we should have gone even after what is now known then you are just plain dumb. Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm). America is not on the right track. Incompetant leadership will be their demise and china and india will hang them out dry economically and militarily. Can you please explain to me the justification for canada going to Iraq, or even the Americans going.
P.B. You are right about U.S. HealthCare I know several working families that lost their homes because of Hospital Bills of their sick children.One family was lucky enough that a private group paid for a surgery for their child that insurance wouldnt approve.Then the IRS started hassling them about the donation of paying the bill,wanting them to pay taxes as if it was income and they didnt have money to pay had to sell home etc.I know other people that will never be able to own their own homes because they owe so much in medical bills they cant afford it & it would probably be taken away even if they could because of high med. expenses.
Also know several retired seniors that are trying to go back to work because medicine ,health care etc.are taking so much out of their in come they cant afford it.
You are making a great case for lower taxes. Let’s compare the tax rate for US verse Canada!
You say that, after a brief period of getting people to join the army we got 800,000 soldiers out of 8 million? Wow, thats great, because now we have over 30 million and I doubt we could put together 400,000 for an army, and also, what will they use to fight? A gun from WWII? a fuckin kitchen knife? wake the fuck up.
Vote conservative, yeah can’t wait to become the next american state(sarcasm)
Apparently now if you vote Conservative your gonna become the next american state? where the fuck do you get these ideas? pull ur head out of your ass and maybe smell the coffee. So your telling me the liberals are still a better choice after all the scandals? You rather keep crooks in gov’t than to take a chance? You are what I call a damn pussy. And please let me know when China and India hangs the US out to dry economically and militarily, I hope you live to see that day, cuz it wont ever happen. Justification of going to Iraq? Listen i aint gona discuss what has been discussed in a million other threads, take a look on your own, though your left wing brain wont let it register. I hope you vote Liberal again, because they can do no harm right? Every left wing person I know has only one defence: at least the liberals arent as bad as…(whoever I mention) and as if you would know what would happen, maybe you should learn their ideas first. Great to be part of this corrupt nation, thank you.
I cant wait to see what countries could help us protect ourselves from enemies. Best off being more like the Americans, take no shit atitude, while everyone else whines like a bunch of bitches and sissies.
Lorisco- you make a really good point in terms of taxes, in Quebec, its 15%, and damn we are taxed by 2 gov’t, feds and the provincial… it would be nice to have less taxes for being healthy.
I think the free healthcare should charge at least a fee, so it can give better healthcare. I mean, you tell me the CDN taxes are going towards the health system? Its a joke, 15% tax and what do I get? Shitty roads, shitty healthcare, shitty education. And why is it shit? Two reasons, #1 its free #2 the gov’t is spending the money on themselves to live the highlife and spend 400$ a nite on a personal trip, and who pays for this? the gov’t. Isnt Canada and Quebec so great… (sarcastic)
PB, good God stop posting, you’re a national embarrassment.
[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
In canada we have programs for mentally ill people so that they don’t go on the streets and cause crime. [/quote]
Wow, that’s great, how about perpetuating some more myths about people with debilitating illnesses? Do we also have a program to keep melanoma patients off the street to stop the spread of cancer? Or maybe you’re just spewing patriotic BS faster than you can think?