I agree with you about the english and grammer but I occasionally like a good f***
As someone who’s often ranted in the past about spelling, grammar, etc., I feel obliged to respond here at some length.
First, TEK, THANK YOU! It’s about fucking time.
Second, to everyone who says that they are posting to convey content, not impress people with their English skills: you're missing the point. (a) If your post is illiterate, many people will not respond to it, simply because it pisses them off. Further, most of the ones who are likely to become pissed off are older (read: experienced) folks such as myself. Not to say I'm the be-all-and-end-all of training/nutrition (I'm not), but after a quarter century in this game I can probably offer a bit more constructive advice than most 25-year-olds, considering that I started lifting when they were coming out of Mom. So you hamstring yourself by being lazy/illiterate. (b) Saying that you're okay so long as you get your point across is also off-base, as many times I've seen posts here where I literally *could not* figure out what the author was trying to say. (This disregards the posts that I could, if I really wanted to spend a lot of time decoding, figure out. News flash: I'm not going to bother.)
If you really think that decent (not exceptional, just acceptable) English skills are superfluous, think again. They will impact your acceptance/performance on this board, and in life in general.
I don’t mind the occasional misspelled word or comma splice. That happens to everyone, including yours truly. And obscenity/profanity has its place here as well. The “bad” words can often contribute to effective communication of an idea. (As can Freebie’s use of “dood”. I agree with his assessment of the nuance difference that the change in spelling imparts.) But when every other word of a post has something wrong with it, things have gone too far.
Finally, as my contribution to raising the standards of English on this board, I would like to (humbly, not trying to make anyone feel bad here) point out that "its" and "it's" are not interchangeable; "it's" is not a possessive, it's a contraction. You ONLY use "it's" when you could alternatively say "It is" in your sentence. Also, if you are unsure of the use of "effect" and "affect", please do yourself a favor and look them up. Really.
And while we’re at it - a period (.) is placed at the END of a sentence. Also, the first word following a period begins with a capital (please note the first word of this sentence). And to those of you here I apologize for my wireless keyboard at home since it is what causes the typos that sometimes appears in my and Ko’s postings (or is that “Ko’s and mine”?).
I advise you to give “advice” NOT advise…I use the periods cause the moderator does not put space between paragraphs no matter how much space I leave between them! Thats “I”,not i 
Mom!, what are you doing posting on the t-mag forum.
Affect and effect are different words. Please don’t use these interchangeably. Thanks.
TEK, you are fabulous. Here is my contribution. An apostrophe does NOT mean “Warning: the letter s is approaching.”
Thank you TEK and Char-Dawg. Quest-what part of “Dangerously Hardcore” and “Muscle With Attitude” don’t you understand? Every post I read from you screams sissy. If you are a woman, then I understand. If not, then stop using that soy protein and get with the program. Yes, we sometimes flame people on this board, but it is simply an attempt to preseve the integrity of what we have here. Many of the younger guys were not around to see the rise and fall of Muscle Media 2000. Bill Phillips allowed guys (or girls) like you to persuade him to go mainstream. This left the rest of us out to fend for ourselves with no real cutting edge leadership in the diet, training, and supplement world. I don’t think anyone on these boards claims to be an authority on anything, but it is clear by reading certain posts who has more experience and who can offer better advice. An occasional flame is an indication that you should do more reading than posting on this board.
Hooray for TEK and everyone else who agrees that proper English is necessary for good communication. I agree that it is very difficult to respond to a post that is riddled with spelling errors and grammar mistakes. They are very hard to understand and I don’t bother trying. It doesn’t take much to read over what you have written and correct any errors that you can see. For those of you who think grammar is not important–it is. Try to get a job, or even keep one, if you can’t make yourself understood. Computers still do not do all the work for you.
I don’t think I said a thing about flaming, Spacemonkey. And I don’t mind a little cussing either.
So, according to you, I’m a Bill Phillips-loving sissy because I try to spell correctly so I’m properly understood? Okay then, I’m a softcore sissy. Let me practice being “hardcore”:
hey dooods i gots like 2 grams of test do i put it in my but or wot cause i dont wana fuck it up…thanks fer you’re help…i get hyoooge now lol…oh yea wot is clomid i keep hereing about"
There, now I’m hardcore and tough! Grrrrr!
Hey, I wonder why TC, Chris, Berardi, Coach Davies, Poliquin, King, Tate, Cy, Bill Roberts, Brock and all the others at T-mag also spell and punctuate correctly? Shit, I guess they’re sissies too. That’s it, I’m leaving T-mag to find a better hardcore source of info. Does anyone know of a hardcore site that gives steroid advice and also misspells the names of the steroids? That’s the kind of place I want to get my drug info from. I don’t want none of those period usin’, capitalizing pansies trying to give me advice!
Tek i bet you’re jerking off to all the compliments you getting huh? GET OVER IT you pansy!
You misread my post TEK. I support you 100% here. Those comments were directed to QUEST.
Whoops. Sorry for that misdirected rant, Spacemonkey. I just saw the part about Quest on your post.
Ya god dam foks is pissin me off…i aint got da dam time to be sittin round and readin yo bitchin…y dont ya concentat on LEARNING FUCKING INFO ON TRAINING INSTEAD OF GRAMMAR…people who thought this was a good forum i had not even heard of most of yall with an exception of a few…so its apparent yall arent hardcore…your fuckin panzi english teachers who i liked to beat the shit out off…hows that better bitch…i will never respond to your god damn post again ya fuckin moron.
TEK, I’m still with you all the way on this one. Look folks, like it or not, people will judge you based on the way you present yourself. On this forum, the ONLY thing people have to go on is your writing. If your writing represents laziness and ignorance, then guess what? You come off as ignorant and/or lazy. Imagine how you would respond to a person (who incidentally speaks English as their primary language) if they walked up to you on the street, introduced themselves, and then proceeded to ask you a question, the whole time mispronouncing and misusing words, not completing sentences, and speaking with enthusiasm and/or anger indicative of eight (that’s EIGHT) exclamation points. Would YOU take them seriously? I would immediately judge them to be quite stupid. It’s a sad comment on the American school system when so many people believe that the only time they should use the language correctly is when they are writing an English paper. Am I a snob? Well, if believing that languages, including ones foreign to me, should be written correctly, then I’m guilty as charged.
Minutia. If i were turning this in for a grade or something hell yeah i would be gramatically correct. This is more of a conversation than a doctoral thesis. chill out.
TEK, the people you are writing about are the same people who leave their weights on the bar when they are done, who leave dumbbells all over the floor, who park in handicap spaces, who piss on toilet seats, ect. You aren’t going to get through to them.
Even a conversation has to make sense. I don’t think the people who are pro-grammar are so anal that every little typing error is criticized. However, like someone else said, you do not have to make yourself understood only in the context of an English paper or a doctoral thesis.
doogie…I take very careful aim in a public restroom. I hit the toilet paper with great accuracy, never have got it on the seat.
Yeah, lack of post proofreading in the context of internet forums coincides with your above stated pet peeves (dumbells, pissing on seat). Just one question. How did you get from premise A to Z? Pretty big leap. That’s like saying that a guy who routinely composes A+ posts would never leave his weights or piss on seats. Don’t see how that conclusion can be drawn from the stated premises either.