I don’t agree with what Zecarlo is saying re committing genocide
But I find a lot of leftists are delusional in regards to how strong they think the Palestinian/Iranian proxy side is
And furthermore many have this idea that Israel wouldn’t be around without American funding? Without America Israel would probably form allies with non western countries to get the job done, and they have a very decent quota on manufacturing their own weapons
If BIBI wanted to wipe out Palestininan Arabs he could do it in a split second and there isn’t a damn thing the Palestinians could do about it.
Israel clearly doesn’t care much about public opinion, they’ve already lost the PR war outside of America (even in America, heavy opposition from Islamist living college campuses). If Isreal wanted to be as cruel as possible, the civillians of the west bank and Gaza are defenceless and Israel could esssentially drop the equivalent of multiple atomic bombs without using nuclear weapons
Israel could reasonably ethnically cleanse Israel of its currently 23% Muslim population (in Israel) but as Israel isn’t really interested in commiting ethnic cleansing it won’t do this… And why don’t Israeli Arabs generally think they live in apartheid?. Israel could commit a genocide on par with Nazi Germany and round up all Palestinians into camps… But they won’t… Because they are better than Hamas who explicitly references genocide in their charter.
Israel could conduct Vietnam era raids and massacre entire villages one by one.
Hamas is Isis level fundamentalist. Fatah renounced terrorism in the 1990s… Give Gaza to Fatah… Who I believe was actually at war with Hamas.
Thank you for seeing it that way.
Thank you for calling it as you see it.
As I stated to Silyak previously I don’t feel a need to defend Islam or Muhammad (saw), but I might at times attempt to defend what might appear as a (somewhat) sincere Christian
It’s not a doctrine. It’s not anti-woman or anti-God either. It’s just foreign.
There is a way of understanding it that is internally consistent with Islamic teachings that do not fit any of your above descriptions.
We don’t agree with all of the details but the basic outline of the story is the same.
Hmmm
I don’t know man. I can see ways to argue with this statement. I’d rather not though - can we agree to argue about something else?
I mean my mind can see potential attack angles here - I don’t know if they’d pan out well - but they wouldn’t really be coming from my heart anyways.
Your most recent response to me re Mathew 7 failed to address the real convolutedness in my post. Maybe we can argue about that - or
You guys have a … doctrine (?) regarding Christ’s First Coming and another one regarding Christ’s Second Coming. These can be compared to doctrines of Meccan Islam and Medinan Islam.
Jesus (as) has an extremely high status in Islam, but there is not enough Islamic information about him (as) for people to take him as a prime model in my opinion.
No. It’s a bit of a non-sequitur to me.
How many women (ra) do you think were for Abraham (as). Should they be Abrahamless (as) in heaven? (or any other Prophet)
You describe yourself here but are to dimwitted to realize it.
You “cleverly”, used modern standards and terminology to describe the past. I didn’t. That is not an instance of me being duplicitous
I can use my own terminology to make my own statements in my own context. That is not being duplicitous.
You said I cannot say something is wrong - and then I did. You have not shown my beliefs to be internally inconsistent.
Rather than try to show an inconsistency on my part, you resort to ad hominem. That is your own blindness and duplicity at play - perhaps you will see it.
See, you’ve already told me I should know how you argue. You try to be clever, you call it duplicitous, by changing terms to fit your narrative of reality.
Are there a such thing as war crimes, or not?
For the sixth time - are you a Christian?
For the fourth time - are you Islamophobic?
For the fourth time - are you in a groomer gang?
I can follow and agree to follow laws without considering them to be ultimate reality. You should be able to see that, but you hadn’t, because you were blind.
Any modernist criticisms of Muhammad (saw) which could just as well be applied to the Old Testament are inherently un-Christian.
False. You were a piece of trash
Totally fair point
Do you have a Biblical basis for this statement?
Yes, potential misunderstanding. Speaking of which - you misunderstood that post. The majority of your response was written to the portion I decided to not even write
I had (by instinct) matched the concept of 22:39 to 7:1 before writing that.
I only mentioned 7:1 to explain my choice in punctuation on a particular portion of my post.
So you have called it hijacking, ripping out of context, and my entrance into the masses of Christian deniers who want to silence Christians, for me to choose to say things a bit more kindly because of Mathew 7:1. Interesting.
So if 7:1 refers to 22:39 that would seem to make it foundational.
Wait. Hear me out.
Someone didn’t do 22:38 all the way through unless they did 22:39 all the way through, which also requires doing 7:1 all the way through. If there is a millimeter more that one could do on one level, that should correspond to an empty space on another level
And Matt 22:37 is very clearly saying there shouldn’t be any hint of any nanometers empty
By the way, isn’t it saying judge not (command) followed by explanation of wisdom behind the command? If not, why not? (if you don’t mind…)
It also reminds me (by instinct) of Thou shalt not bear false witness
This is consistent with my understanding.
However
Can you think of a solid Biblical basis for falsifying such statements?
Exert effort to avoid Verbally judging others and God will judge you more mercifully
Verbally judge others more kindly and God will judge you more kindly
Try to Judge no one in your mind and God will judge you more forgivingly
Judge others in your mind mercifully and God will judge you mercifully
If you cannot present solid Biblical bases for falsifying these statements then you should acknowledge them being consistent with a valid interpretation. And in that case I would still have an interest in examining flimsy bases for falsifying those statements if it wouldn’t be a burden for you to present them.
Maybe. I wasn’t thinking it before reading this. How often does that happen?
You asked me how I felt before and I honestly answered. Then you asked me my thinking.
Maybe I would in time… It would require follow up questions.
Why do you describe it as “in the name of Allah”?
No
Of course.
Of course as a Muslim there is no honest way of saying no. Remember that 2nd video you asked me about earlier. Remember one of the things I said re: differences of opinion, one opinion for the masses, multiple opinions for the masses
Sharia means law btw
Cutting off someone’s hand for stealing
That’s only if the things stolen are valuable enough. We’re not talking peasants stealing turnips. How valuable? I’m not sure exactly how it would work today in theory. I remember a hadith saying if the stolen goods exceed the price of a shield. I don’t know how many American dollars that translates to today. I believe there is a lot of room for differences of opinion.
Sharia =/= Sunnah, so I’m not aware of a legal punishment for not wearing a headscarf either
People often say that America was founded on Judeo Christian values. I disagree. It was founded on Jihad and Freemasonry, not turning the other cheek. The Declaration of Independence contains an explanation for how many times and ways the Founders did turn the other cheek. I respect them. Ultimately The Declaration of Independence was a declaration of no longer turning the other cheek. America was founded on the opposite of Christianity. They had their reasons - don’t get me wrong.
The first state founded upon a Constitution in recorded human history was founded by Muhammad (saw). American values are Islamic values. We can agree to follow laws we don’t completely agree with. We can agree to change laws according to how we agreed to change them. I love America.
I am in full alignment with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. Progressivism and Modernism are not my religion however.
Now to answer your question - of course I believe it would, especially given the best circumstances - I believe the West could rise to the Shariah rather than fall to something worse.
If you are referring to what I think you are - it is not a reference to genocide. Genocide relates to genes and genetics while Jews refers to religion.
I wonder at how many times I’ve corrected you on this
Who the hell is going to bother reading all of that? Especially when knowing it’s from a poster who has mastered the art of saying nothing with as many words as possible.
If you get a DNA test and are Jewish the results often come up as “70% Ashkenazi Jewish”
“The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים, ISO 259-2: Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation: [jehuˈdim]) or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group[13] and nation”
“An ethnoreligious group (or an ethno-religious group) is a grouping of people who are unified by a common religious and ethnic background.”
Genocide definition
“The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part”