I’m a comics fan. I am not sure if I would be distracted if it were a black Spiderman or not. I accepted Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin because he just fit so well. He had the massive physical presence that Kingpin was supposed to have.
Now… Halle Berry as Catwoman… not a good movie. But Eartha Kitt as Catwoman was a good fit.
So long as the actor being black did not become more important than the actual character I could go for it.
Chill out.
Hey!! Lay off of Eddie Murphy! He’s making movies for kids. I’m not going to hate on that. As for the Spiderman debate, having grown up reading the comics as well, I don’t see the issue, really. As long as the actor fits the role and nails it, it’s all good. I had never heard of Will Smith vying for the CA role. I would be very much against that one. Same for Thor, for obvious reasons. But, I can see both sides of the argument about Spidey. I liked the original Spawn movie. They did the best they could do with the tech they had at the time… At least that’s the bone I’m throwing their way. What I would absolutely love to see is a Youngblood movie. Let’s see who remembers that comic!!
If all he made was kid movies I would have given him a pass I mean damn he has 8 kids. But he fell off wayyyy before that Beverly Hills Cop 3. COME ON BEAST you didn’t want to throw an Orange at his head for that???
Fact is, Sony are only rebooting Spiderman because they fucked up the last movie so badly and on multiple levels.
Avi Arad effectively destroyed the movie in pre production by pressuring Sam Raimi into using Venom when he didn’t want to. Pairing wholesome Peter Parker with an amoral symbiote should’ve made for an awesome movie and should’ve provided so much internal conflict that no other villains were needed: the symbiote’s influence should’ve been the ‘main villain’
Thanks to studio interference, instead of Spidey fighting criminals on the outside while fighting the murderous urges of the symbiote within, like a modern Jekyll and Hyde, we got Peter Parker looking slightly hungover while doing a bad John Travolta impersonation.
The shortlist for the new movie is just as uninspiring:
Changing the race of the character is a gimmick. They need to get the source material right first. I’d much rather see a new Black Panther movie than a Spidey reboot.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Why is Blade not Japanese?[/quote]
Probably for the same reasons that Turkish Superman and Japanese Spiderman didn’t quite work out as planned:
Although they do have their charm.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Why is Blade not Japanese?[/quote]
Probably for the same reasons that Turkish Superman and Japanese Spiderman didn’t quite work out as planned:
Although they do have their charm.[/quote]
More specifically, why would Blade be Japanese? In the comics, he originally didn’t even have any powers and was just an effective vampire slayer who was black. What about him makes him ‘Japanese’? The fighting? That was ALL Wesley Snipes doing. Since when does Japan own the rights to all fighting moves?
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
I liked the original Spawn movie. They did the best they could do with the tech they had at the time… At least that’s the bone I’m throwing their way.[/quote]
Spawn: The animated series
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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Was the original Spawn any good? I’ve seen it but don’t remember too much about it.[/quote]
Not really.[/quote]
The Spawn movie was declared DOA for the same reason that Ghost Rider failed.
If executed properly, both characters would be rated ‘R’ and would really be closer to a horror movie than a ‘superhero’ movie (ironically, this is what made Blade so successful, but Hollywood are very quick to forget)- here’s the problem: mature and challenging adaptations of mature and challenging comic-books like Spawn automatically cut out a very significant portion of cinema goers.
Unfortunately for any semi-serious comic fan, this most influential of demographic groups are teenagers, which sounds a death-knell for a stream of consistently excellent and diverse superhero movies.
Hollywood will twist a property beyond all recognition if it means they can exploit a trend… Expect a Morbius solo movie about a living vampire (played by Zack Efron) whose main interests are pining for a vapid girl, alternating between gazing at his shoes and at the camera in a way that maximizes his hunkiness, and sparkling if and when the mood takes him (thus demonstrating his impulsive side).
Bloodlust and biting necks are strictly off-limits because apparently only evil vampires do that…See also The Vampire Diaries.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Was the original Spawn any good? I’ve seen it but don’t remember too much about it.[/quote]
Not really.[/quote]
The Spawn movie was declared DOA for the same reason that Ghost Rider failed.
If executed properly, both characters would be rated ‘R’ and would really be closer to a horror movie than a ‘superhero’ movie (ironically, this is what made Blade so successful, but Hollywood are very quick to forget)- here’s the problem: mature and challenging adaptations of mature and challenging comic-books like Spawn automatically cut out a very significant portion of cinema goers.
Unfortunately for any semi-serious comic fan, this most influential of demographic groups are teenagers, which sounds a death-knell for a stream of consistently excellent and diverse superhero movies.
Hollywood will twist a property beyond all recognition if it means they can exploit a trend… Expect a Morbius solo movie about a living vampire (played by Zack Efron) whose main interests are pining for a vapid girl, alternating between gazing at his shoes and at the camera in a way that maximizes his hunkiness, and sparkling if and when the mood takes him (thus demonstrating his impulsive side).
Bloodlust and biting necks are strictly off-limits because apparently only evil vampires do that…See also The Vampire Diaries.[/quote]
The fuck is Vampire Diaries?
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Was the original Spawn any good? I’ve seen it but don’t remember too much about it.[/quote]
Not really.[/quote]
The Spawn movie was declared DOA for the same reason that Ghost Rider failed.
If executed properly, both characters would be rated ‘R’ and would really be closer to a horror movie than a ‘superhero’ movie (ironically, this is what made Blade so successful, but Hollywood are very quick to forget)- here’s the problem: mature and challenging adaptations of mature and challenging comic-books like Spawn automatically cut out a very significant portion of cinema goers.
Unfortunately for any semi-serious comic fan, this most influential of demographic groups are teenagers, which sounds a death-knell for a stream of consistently excellent and diverse superhero movies.
Hollywood will twist a property beyond all recognition if it means they can exploit a trend… Expect a Morbius solo movie about a living vampire (played by Zack Efron) whose main interests are pining for a vapid girl, alternating between gazing at his shoes and at the camera in a way that maximizes his hunkiness, and sparkling if and when the mood takes him (thus demonstrating his impulsive side).
Bloodlust and biting necks are strictly off-limits because apparently only evil vampires do that…See also The Vampire Diaries.[/quote]
The fuck is Vampire Diaries?
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From what I’ve seen (2 minutes before I told my girlfriend I would leave if we didn’t watch something else), it’s twilight but a tv show.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Was the original Spawn any good? I’ve seen it but don’t remember too much about it.[/quote]
Not really.[/quote]
The Spawn movie was declared DOA for the same reason that Ghost Rider failed.
If executed properly, both characters would be rated ‘R’ and would really be closer to a horror movie than a ‘superhero’ movie (ironically, this is what made Blade so successful, but Hollywood are very quick to forget)- here’s the problem: mature and challenging adaptations of mature and challenging comic-books like Spawn automatically cut out a very significant portion of cinema goers.
Unfortunately for any semi-serious comic fan, this most influential of demographic groups are teenagers, which sounds a death-knell for a stream of consistently excellent and diverse superhero movies.
Hollywood will twist a property beyond all recognition if it means they can exploit a trend… Expect a Morbius solo movie about a living vampire (played by Zack Efron) whose main interests are pining for a vapid girl, alternating between gazing at his shoes and at the camera in a way that maximizes his hunkiness, and sparkling if and when the mood takes him (thus demonstrating his impulsive side).
Bloodlust and biting necks are strictly off-limits because apparently only evil vampires do that…See also The Vampire Diaries.[/quote]
The fuck is Vampire Diaries?
[/quote]
Along with that, Spawn didn’t fail. If you guys are judging a 90’s movie by today’s standards and now calling it “DOA” then you have issues. I didn’t even know there were people around my age when that came out who hadn’t seen it. It was not big budget, but it still left a mark in pop culture and may be one of the main characters that Michael Jai White is still known for…even more than when he played Tyson.
Spawn topped 87 million in sales world wide. That sounds like it did better than “DOA” to me considering this was 1997.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Spawn topped 87 million in sales world wide. That sounds like it did better than “DOA” to me considering this was 1997.
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1997/SPAWN.php
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It failed in the sense that they deliberately watered down the source material in order to get a lower classification and take it to a wider audience. Which, according to the figures you posted, they succeeded in doing, but at the expense of the character. It’s pretty telling that they never produced a direct sequel. Just check the reviews - they aren’t kind.
They squandered a great leading man and let John Leguizamo lay waste to everthing with improv.
It was a wasted opportunity given what it could have been (though not as wasted as Ghost Rider…jellybeans in champagne glasses, wtf?). Again, I refer you to Blade as an example of a character who worked on screen because they didn’t attempt to sugar coat his back story - even though it wasn’t a note perfect translation from the page to the screen. But they didn’t try to make him PG-13 either.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
The fuck is Vampire Diaries?
[/quote]
A T.V series based on a set of vampire novels which were written before the Twilight “saga”. Similar premise: sensitive vamp attempts to keep his urges in check for the sake of a girl…
Vampire Diaries is ridiculously contrived shit. It’s not even much fun to watch and mock because it is so bad.
Not only is it standard sensitive vampire guy and delicate mortal girl shit they add in the theme of destiny and in a way reincarnation because the girl the vampire falls in love with looks just like one he loved X decades ago and is her descendant. The show is painful. After their first encounter the characters write in their diaries as they think about what happened and they complete each other’s sentences as they internally monologue.
Then they add a stupid evil brother/cousin/whatever that’s wild and edgy. He continuously attempts to corrupt his faggy goody two shoes brother to get him to use his powers however he wants and to indiscriminately feed on humans. He of course softens over time and develops feelings for the chick but he still has a quota of douchebag shit he has to do to maintain his bad boy street cred.
Then we have bullshit school romance. The main chick has some friends that turn against her and lust for vampire boy’s cock. She also has a loser brother that uses drugs and has his own romantic motivations. At least one student is turned into a vampire to add drama.
