[quote]Nards wrote:
I can’t believe some are still thinking that some of us are saying the only option to kipping pull ups at 9 months pregnant is being completely sedentary.
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but you’re wrong. running from a lion spikes cortisol. Infact i think to make training more functional we should strap bloody steaks to our nut sacks and jump in a cage with wild lions, I mean we’re still here so our ancestors must have done ok.
[quote]ragoo wrote:
Just because you tell me “that the risk of injury is linked with with the exercise” doesn’t just suddenly make it true.[/quote]
Either you agree with me or you don’t. Do you believe that a dangerous exercise ISN’T linked with an increased risk of injury? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp. You don’t have to agree with me. You’d be far better served doing your own reading on the subject, rather than requesting anatomical studies when the truth is far simpler than that.
The problem is that you’ve come to this thread with a neutral opinion of kipping pull ups, but you’re batting away opinions as if you already have the answers. It comes down to whether YOU think the exercise is inherently unsafe. Then you can explain why.
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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nobody is saying that she should not exercise…let’s go ASK A FUCKING DOCTOR SHALL WE.
"This was written by a OBGYN in response to a post on the Crossfit forums regarding WOD-ing during pregancy. I know it will convince no one, but it seems well thought out.
First of all, if you get overheated, baby can’t cool down. This is also why pregnant women are told to stay out of hot tubs. So, intensity needs to be dialed back a lot.
You need to keep your heart rate under 140 bpm. Baby can usually get enough oxygen, but with a supremely high heart rate, it makes it difficult.
When pregnant, your body produces a hormone called relaxin that allows your ligaments and tendons to stretch to allow for the baby to get through the birth canal. Extreme stretching or pulling on tendons and ligaments (pullups, etc.) can cause irreversible damage because they are much more susceptible to overstretching. Can cause one to develop hip dysplasia, shoulder and other joint issues, and diastasis recti. Diastasis occurs naturally during pregnancy, it is the stretching of the connective tissue that holds the rectus abdominus together. If it gets overstretched (or you have weak connective tissue), it won’t come back together and you end up with a permanent pot belly.
Lastly, if you suffer falls in the last half of pregnancy, there is a risk of placental abruption. This means that the placenta detaches from the uterine wall and the baby bleeds to death. This can happen spontaneously as well, but my husband who is an ER physician has seen this happen from falls and domestic violence more than enough times for me to believe it is a serious risk.
Jumping and hanging from things while pregnant is just not a good idea.
I won’t claim to know what goes on hormonally while exercising when pregnant but on the CF pregnant forums, there are a lot of miscarriages reported. I have friends who are figure and fitness competitors and a lot of them had miscarriages and had trouble conceiving when training at that intensity level.
I would tell her that its okay to do some basic circuits with light implements (not for time), but there is no reason to be lifting super heavy and especially not doing any jumping/hanging/kipping, etc. The risk to benefit ratio is too high. Just getting out and walking/jogging with muscle endurance circuits is good."
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There are a couple of points with this post that show my point about society (and many doctors) believing pregnant women are far more delicate than they actually are.
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I will comment on this point. We live in a society that will file malpractice for anything, what would you suggest a physician tell his patients? Error on the side of caution and do no harm is what we do.
Question do you have children?
Why do I ask this, because as a male that does not give birth what would you advise your wife to do?
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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
there’s really not much of a choice in driving, so analogy fail.
there’s choice is selecting exercises that have a lower risk of injury ;)[/quote]
All she has to do is install a chin-up bar in her house and driving to the gym is avoided.[/quote]
But what if she has to to drive to the store to buy the chin up bar? Risky. Having to drive home from work to use the chin up bar is even riskier. [/quote]
That’s what husbands are for. Single mothers can order one via the internet. :)[/quote]
Why do I get the feeling that you don’t believe what you’re posting?[/quote]
My last couple of posts were somewhat in jest… but I absolutely believe pregnant women aren’t nearly as helpless as many people think.[/quote]
I know you were keeping it light, but we’ve looked at the pros and cons of kipping pull ups in enough detail that the benefits do not outweigh the risks. Not one person here has said that women are helpless and, as I said, doing an injurious exercise just to send a message to people who seem like they’re being buzzkills, is incredibly selfish and reckless.
I don’t believe that anyone on this thread would condone what those women are doing if they were friends or relatives.
“It’s her body” doesn’t justify it when they are doing this for totally the wrong reasons.
Like I said, even competive athletes scale back their training. We will not see a Preglympics any time soon. The whole idea behind a pregnant pull up progression is to ramp up training, not rein it in. That’s all I have to say. [/quote]
I’ve never done kipping pullups and don’t really have an opinion on them so I’ll refrain from commenting on them specifically.
However, I would not be upset if a friend or relative did this. From what I understand, every woman’s pregnancy affects them differently. Some women may be able to handle these just fine while others may not.[/quote]
So you don’t have an opinion on kipping pull ups yet you’d be completely neutral if a pregnant friend or relative did them?
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
but you’re wrong. running from a lion spikes cortisol. Infact i think to make training more functional we should strap bloody steaks to our nut sacks and jump in a cage with wild lions, I mean we’re still here so our ancestors must have done ok.[/quote]
Retarded bitch
CrossFit is considered very cultish, but I love that now even being against CrossFit in any way makes you part of another cult…the anti-CrossFit one.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
I don’t think her chin was clearing the bar.[/quote]
LOL