[quote]Slayers wrote:
So you are going to say that since Bush sat in a class for 5-10 mins after he was told a plane was high jacked in NY that he knows about it? [/quote]
No, I am not saying that. Bush’s life was in danger. It was in danger more than 5 minutes. Does the fact that the Secret Service failed to do their sworn duty cause reasonable suspicion that the government knew more than they are admitting they knew? Yes, it does. If you were informed on the events you so conveniently summarize, you would know it also.
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Well lets think about that for a min there plane is in NY president is in FL. Last time I flew from NY to FL it took 2 hours so why rush him out of the building if there is only 1 plane at that time which was what both the Secret Service and Military had been told about then it would seem that he has 1hr 50min before he needs to be rushed to safety. [/quote]
Why use a Strawman argument? I have stated facts. What you are stating is conjecture based on a Strawman argument. The Secret Service is sworn to wisk the president away to safety anytime there is the slightest hint of danger.
Nonetheless, I will bite. Since you used a Strawman, zero sources, and tons of conjecture to posit your argument, I will not provide sources, but I will provide facts.
The Secret Service are held to a strict standard when it comes to protecting the president. After the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901, Congress directed the Secret Service to protect the President of the United States. Protection remains the primary mission of the United States Secret Service.
In 1998, Clinton issued Presidential Decision Directive 62. A portion of PDD-62, which is a classified document, deals with the coordination of Federal anti-terrorism and counter-terrorism assets for events of national interest. When an event is designated a National Special Security Event, the Secret Service assumes its mandated role as the lead agency for the design and implementation of the operational security plan.
9/11 - Possible terrorist incident against President Bush early in the morning at his hotel resort in Florida.
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“At about 6 a.m. Sept. 11, Longboat Key Fire Marshall Carroll Mooneyhan was at the front desk of the Colony Beach & Tennis Resort as Bush prepared for his morning jog. From that vantage point, Mooneyhan overheard a strange exchange between a Colony receptionist and security guard.
A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent had pulled up to the Colony stating they had a â??poolsideâ?? interview with the president, Mooneyhan said. The self-proclaimed reporters then asked for a Secret Service agent by name. Guards from security relayed the request to the receptionist, who had not heard of either the agent or plans for an interview, Mooneyhan said.
The receptionist gave the phone over to a nearby Secret Service agent, who said the same thing â?? no one knew of an agent by that name or of any poolside interview.
The agent told the occupants of the van to contact the presidentâ??s public relations office in Washington, D. C., and turned them away from the premises, Mooneyhan said.” [/quote]
9/11 (8:52 am) - President Bush arrives at Booker Elementary school in Sarasota, FL and is told by his staff that a small, twin-engine plane crashed into the WTC and assumes it’s just an accident and thinks the pilot “must have had a heart attack.”
9/11 (8:55 am) - President Bush goes into a holding room inside Booker Elementary to speak with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice who tells him it was a commercial plane that crashed into the WTC.
9/11 (9:02 am?*) - Even after being told that a commercial plane hit the WTC and apparently never getting in contact with the FAA or NORAD about the previous two hijackings, Bush continues on with his scheduled classroom reading event.
9/11 (9:07 am) - Chief of Staff Andrew Card whispers in Bush’s hear that a second plane has hit the WTC and that America is under attack and then immediately walks away from the president without waiting for any kind of response and President Bush doesn’t look at or even respond to Card after receiving supposedly horrible surprising news.
9/11 (9:08 am*) - President Bush picks up a book after he is just told that his country is under attack and begins to read with 2nd graders for 7 to 11 minutes and after finishing the reading lesson, Bush then takes a few questions from the children before he leaves the classroom.
9/11 (9:31 am) - President Bush is still at the elementary school approx. 25 minutes after being told America’s under attack and gives his first speech of the day there at exactly the same time he was scheduled to make a speech at the school. Bush explains to a room jammed packed with reporters and journalists, teachers and parents, and children and as the back drop to his 9:30am speech and explains to them “America is under attack.”
9/11 (9:34 am) - President Bush leaves Booker Elementary school, he is never evacuated by the Secret Service even though a terrorist attack is happening.
Minutes after the motorcade pulled away from Booker Elementary, a THIRD plane struck another building; The Pentagon at 9:37am.
The secret service never acted to protect the president. This was a dereliction of duty, unless there was reason not to think his life was in danger.
On the other side of the coin:
- 9:30 a.m.: The Secretary of State Colin Powell in Lima, Peru abruptly ended his breakfast with the Peruvian president after getting word of the second strike on the trade center and made plans to return to Washington. “Get the plane,” he told an assistant. “Go tell them we’re leaving.” He had a seven-hour flight, with poor phone connections, ahead of him.
9:30 a.m.: United Airlines begins landing all of its flights inside the United States.
- 9:32 a.m.: Secret Service agents burst into Cheney’s White House office. They carry him under his arms – nearly lifting him off the ground – and take him to the security of the underground bunker in the White House basement.
9:32 a.m.: The New York Stock Exchange closed.
- 9:35 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 goes off course near Cleveland, Ohio where it makes a 135 degree turn, and is now headed to the southeast. United Airlines Flight 93 is 375 miles from Newark, New Jersey and 280 miles from where it was now headed, Washington D.C.
Even though the Country was under attack, the president was in an advertised location, and there was no way of knowing when or where the next strike may occur, and the president was 4 miles away from the nearest airport, the Secret Service did not do their job.
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Can 3 planes be flown by 1 pilot? Well in the times of computers and other things yes the military does missile testing all the time with Drones which are older jets being controlled by a pilot in some building miles away from it and they can control more then one drone. [/quote]
With this type of logic and argument, there is no wonder why it amazes that I am called a conspiracy theorist for questioning the government’s official story.
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There is a great show on History Chanel right now called Life After People. They had schools and experts look into what is going to happen to the tall standing building in America when no one is going do the maintence on them and they all say that with with metal getting weaker and the weight on upper floors growing from rain and other things that they will collapse on to each other. That is what happened at the Towers weak steal from fires and weight from water collapsed the floors and they were built to only handle certain weight when it is doubled they fail. [/quote]
I saw life after people. It is fiction. I don’t recall it being based on any science, but it is presented as fact.
Since you brought up Concrete, I have attached a couple images. First, images of what concrete looks like when it pancakes.
