82.5kg / 181 lb World Record Deadlift?

When he went natural he was in the 105kg class, untested 125kg. He went 512/380/606 tested then 4 months later 738(wraps)/540/804. I was mistaken about the numbers, he now benches 550 and pulls 850. Sure he gained weight and squatted in wraps, but he went from just over 400 Wilks to 540, and then 570. Average to elite, and he had previously used drugs before competing natural.

I don’t like calling out people’s names for stuff like this unless they are asking for it, but I am aware of another guy who was an elite level untested lifter, like maybe top 20 or 50 or so, stopped competing for a few years and as far as I can tell is clean and is somewhere in the middle of the pack in CPU nationals. On the other hand, there are guys who take a ton of shit and still suck, look up people banned for drugs and check their names on Open Powerlifting. There are a few guys who were on 6-10 different drugs and only had like 350 Wilks.

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400 wilks is very good for the avg gymrat… perhaps not in the powerlifting world, but if I’m not mistaken a 400 wilks indicates you’re easily within the 1000lb club

Also avg to untested… holy shit that’s a 20kg difference in weight, doesn’t quite make up for such a dramatic difference in lifting capability, but it’s a fuck ton of weight to be putting on

400 Wilks is half decent, but not elite. How much that equals on your total depends on bodyweight, this guy was totalling around 1500.

He moved up a weight class but actual weight gain in those 4 months was closer to 30lbs. Yeah its a lot of weight, plus knee wraps can add 50+lbs to your squat, but his total went up close to 50%. My guess is that this is an above-average response to PEDs, and of course for someone trying to minimize weight gain they wouldn’t get that much of a boost in strength. It sounds like a real gamble, you could go from average to elite in a few months or you might get barely anything plus a bunch of side effects and then get stuck on TRT for life.

Looks like the shit is about to hit the fan for the IWF with a new doping scandal.

Most reporting on it is focusing on the Russian element, because Russia, but looks like there is a lot of evidence that the IWF is basically doing a FIFA and a lot of countries are in on it.

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That video won’t play on my computer, here’s an article:

I wouldn’t be surprised if similar things are happening in the IPF.

What seems most damning in my eyes is that the IWF insists on using the same testing company every time, and any time a host contry says they are going to use their own testers, like USADA did, then the IWF writes a letter of protest.

It seems every time this company’s tests are re-run by other WADA approved labs loads of samples they passed as ‘clean’ are found to be positive, and not just a small handful of samples either.

That and over $5.5m dissapearing from a swiss IWF bank account that only the IWF chairman has access to.

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maybe at certain positions. I doubt this is true for, say, the WR position. Like, I don’t think the likes of Randy Moss, AJ Green, Odell Beckham, etc are on. They could be, for sure. I just don’t think they would benefit from drugs enough to make the risk worth it. At the very least, traditional performance enhancers wouldn’t be optimal choices. Perhaps things like EPO and endurance-related drugs could be of value, and also harder to test for. This is of course 100% speculation.

I think at the linebacker/defensive end positions, 99% could be relatively close to the actual number.

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That’s a good point, they’re already genetic speed freaks and coordinated as shit, might not be worth losing millions when you’re already the fastest.

But yes, linemen, good god. Erik McCoy, 303 lb center, posted a 4.89 40 at the combine last year.

THAT IS SO FAST FOR 300 LBS, haha.

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It’s basically the same in the IPF, they claim to follow WADA rules but national affiliates don’t actually have WADA running the tests, and I’m not aware of WADA at international meets either. And to make it worse, they don’t keep samples for re-testing.

Not claiming I know the answer but seeing as speed is a huge factor for WR, RB, etc., and sprinters get a big boost in performance from PEDs (like Ben Johnson for example) I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s more common than you think.

that makes sense, and that’s partly why I used the examples of top level receivers I did, guys that aren’t heavily reliant on top end speed, but rather ball skill, precise route running, and overall athleticism. A guy like Tyreek Hill would be more likely, in my opinion, to be ‘on’, because his game is based entirely on being faster in a straight line than whoever covers him, and sometimes those speed margins are extremely slim. That’s where I could see a benefit.

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Probably different drugs if anything, they want strength and speed but not so much mass.

A little off topic, and not an official lift, but heaviest ever deadlift by a female, and she’s certainly no super heavyweight.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7mUAs3gCe7/

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Should not have watched this before bed because now I’m hype for deads lol

World Record Holder at work with a new deadlift bar it appears. Think he trained on stiff bar mostly previously. Would love a translation on this one because he talks about his mixed hook grip too.

Sounds like the worst of both worlds, destroy your thumbs and still tear a bicep. Unless you have serious grip issues I wouldn’t even consider it.

I take it you mean without a suit, because Becca Swanson did 683 lbs in a deadlift suit.

Yes.

Too many girls looking like Dan Green these days.

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As long as they don’t have his beard.

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