7 Foods Experts Won't Eat

Nutrition
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[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/the-7-foods-experts-wont-eat-547963/ [/quote]
From the article:
“The solution: Choose tomatoes in glass bottles (which do not need resin linings), such as the brands Bionaturae and Coluccio.”

Yes… eat my red fruit, friends. Enjoy it. I shall keep you healthy and safe.

:slight_smile:

But yeah, BPA is nasty, nasty stuff. My girlfriend works for lawyers (though she isn’t a lawyer) who were were among the first to call for legislation stopping companies from using BPA in the manufacturing of baby bottles, teethers, etc.

FigureAthlete had a whole article talking about BPA and similar chemicals:
http://figureathlete.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/features/three_hidden_chemicals

As far as the tomatoes, we’ve only been using Pomi brand tomatoes in the Tetra box (which the original article also recommends). You can get it at most supermarkets.

For beans, we switched to Eden Organic because they come in BPA-free cans. They’re at Whole Foods or you can get them online. (I think ordering from their site works out a bit cheaper per can than at the store, so we go that route.)

Once you start looking for BPA, it’s very easy to go overboard stressing over it (like my gal sometimes does, bless her sweet heart) since it’s such a basic and “useful” chemical that tons of companies use in their storage products. Best thing you can do is take some basic measures (like not microwaving in plastic containers, not putting plastic bottles in dishwashers) and go from there based on how much effort you want to put into avoiding it.

And for what it’s worth, those Nalgene bottles that come with the Anaconda Protocol are BPA-free, from everything I’ve read. (Still though, I wouldn’t put it in the dishwasher.)

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

Yes… eat my red fruit, friends. Enjoy it. I shall keep you healthy and safe.

[/quote]

This is, by far, the creepiest sentiment I have ever encountered.

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“Best thing you can do is take some basic measures (like not microwaving in plastic containers, not putting plastic bottles in dishwashers) and go from there based on how much effort you want to put into avoiding it.”

How else can you wash those damn Nalgenes – you certainly can’t stick your hand in there with a sponge.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

Yes… eat my red fruit, friends. Enjoy it. I shall keep you healthy and safe.

[/quote]

This is, by far, the creepiest sentiment I have ever encountered.[/quote]

G’night folks. My work here is done.

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[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
How else can you wash those damn Nalgenes – you certainly can’t stick your hand in there with a sponge.[/quote]

I use a little soap, warm (not hot-hot) water, and a bottle brush kinda like this one:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&sku=11355226

Then I leave it open and upside-down to dry.

Just make sure the brush head can get into the mouth of your bottle.

(Wait… is this where I make a “head too big for the mouth” joke to further disturb Victome? I’m not sure.)

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[quote]BigJawnMize wrote:
Relax…Think about it if people actually ate tomatoes, whole cuts of beef, apples, milk, salmon, potatoes wouldn’t the vast majority of the diets in the nation actually improve?[/quote]

The food can lining thing was actually mentioned in an article here back about 3 years ago. Sorry I don’t remember who the author was. It concerned me at the time because I ate a lot of food from cans: beans, tuna, etc.

Leigh Peele has a good take on this, I think, that sort of fits with your sentiment, BJM. She says that you probably breathe in more xenoestrogens every time you step outside than you get from eating otherwise healthy canned goods. Worrying too much about this stuff is majoring in minor shit.

I hope she’s right. Me, I’ve tried to switch to cooking dry beans, but I find it difficult to avoid cans entirely so I don’t stress about it.

To Chris: thanks for providing the link to the article from Figure Athlete! It’s a great article and one I must have missed.

It’s shame there are no more new articles being published on FA. There was some really good info there even for guys. Too bad more of the FA contributors weren’t simply brought over to the TN side of the site.

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I’ve read that soaking plastic bottles in HOT water will leach out something like 70% of the BPA. Do this a couple of times.

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thanks for posting the FA link, thats a good one to read, I sent it to a few female friends of mine with kids

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/the-7-foods-experts-wont-eat-547963/ [/quote]
From the article:
“The solution: Choose tomatoes in glass bottles (which do not need resin linings), such as the brands Bionaturae and Coluccio.”

Yes… eat my red fruit, friends. Enjoy it. I shall keep you healthy and safe.

:slight_smile:

But yeah, BPA is nasty, nasty stuff. My girlfriend works for lawyers (though she isn’t a lawyer) who were were among the first to call for legislation stopping companies from using BPA in the manufacturing of baby bottles, teethers, etc.

FigureAthlete had a whole article talking about BPA and similar chemicals:
http://figureathlete.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/features/three_hidden_chemicals

As far as the tomatoes, we’ve only been using Pomi brand tomatoes in the Tetra box (which the original article also recommends). You can get it at most supermarkets.

For beans, we switched to Eden Organic because they come in BPA-free cans. They’re at Whole Foods or you can get them online. (I think ordering from their site works out a bit cheaper per can than at the store, so we go that route.)

Once you start looking for BPA, it’s very easy to go overboard stressing over it (like my gal sometimes does, bless her sweet heart) since it’s such a basic and “useful” chemical that tons of companies use in their storage products. Best thing you can do is take some basic measures (like not microwaving in plastic containers, not putting plastic bottles in dishwashers) and go from there based on how much effort you want to put into avoiding it.

And for what it’s worth, those Nalgene bottles that come with the Anaconda Protocol are BPA-free, from everything I’ve read. (Still though, I wouldn’t put it in the dishwasher.)[/quote]

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I just bought two cases of canned tomatoes and use the crap out of them and canned beans. Althought I do rinse and drain them before every use. While I can in the future buy fresh tomatoes, I can’t afford to go throwing away food. So for now I’ll continue rinsing and eating canned tomatoes and try to eat more broccoli to absorb estrogens

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It´s funny so many of the experts have a very simple reason to make people stop eating those industrially produced foods.

They own a farm for organic food or the similar and want to sell their stuff.

If you ask me, you shouldn´t get your pantys all in a bunch.
There are new threats and problems with food discovered all the time.
Some raise reasonable concern and some are just good enough for news, before they get forgotten.

If you worry about all of those, you won´t be able to eat anything.
There are people who eat only a few organic food sources. The problem is, despite claiming their nutrition was healthy, they are usually not healthy people.

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[quote]BobParr wrote:

Leigh Peele has a good take on this, I think, that sort of fits with your sentiment, BJM. She says that you probably breathe in more xenoestrogens every time you step outside than you get from eating otherwise healthy canned goods. [/quote]

What is her basis for claiming this to be “probable”?

None, I am certain, other than that she thought it up and it felt good to her and so it seemed like a good thing to say. Surely there was no evidence behind it.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:

[quote]BobParr wrote:

Leigh Peele has a good take on this, I think, that sort of fits with your sentiment, BJM. She says that you probably breathe in more xenoestrogens every time you step outside than you get from eating otherwise healthy canned goods. [/quote]

What is her basis for claiming this to be “probable”?

None, I am certain, other than that she thought it up and it felt good to her and so it seemed like a good thing to say. Surely there was no evidence behind it.[/quote]

Well, the obvious solution ^^ is “To NEVER set foot outside AGAIN!”

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i just want to live my life.

I don’t want live in fear of cans and bottles and jars.

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Whats wrong with just eating some canned stuff?

Jesus, if you’re gonna die you’re gonna die. You could get hit by a bus, stabbed, shot, randomly drop down with a stroke or heart attack. Do you worry about all this in day to day life? Cause if you dont, and you’re worrying about a can of chopped tomato leaking crap you cant see into your food based on its PH level, you’re definately “majoring in the minor”.

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Yes, things you can’t see cannot be harmful.

And there are no regards in which any diseases are markedly more prevalent in our current society than has been true in the past, beyond what might be accounted for by increased sugar intake anyway. Therefore, there are no causes to explain such increases, as the increases don’t exist.

You’re right. Can’t see it, it can’t hurt.

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As what may be clarification for some:

I can see where a person would think, “Well, we have estrogen in the body normally, even men do. Getting a small amount of added estrogenic compounds from food or drink could, what, maybe move someone up from being mid-normal in estrogen level to mid-high-normal if even that? But the mid-high-normal people aren’t exactly dropping dead.”

It isn’t that simple.

Estrogenic compounds do not always exert their effects only by the estrogen receptor.

Bisphenol-A actually does nothing at the estrogen receptor, but is extremely potent at estrogen-related-receptor gamma.

It is entirely possible for a quite minute dose to give a large increase in activity at that receptor, and so the situation is not equivalent to, for example, merely moving up from mid-normal to mid-high-normal natural estrogen levels.

Of course, many will not accept this.

There must, however, be causes for things such as the marked decline in male fertility that has occurred, as well as increases in various disease states. Macronutrient intake cannot be the sole explanation, and neither is air pollution.

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You guys worry too much.

If canned foods bother you, buy frozen foods.

Or food in jars.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
As what may be clarification for some:

I can see where a person would think, “Well, we have estrogen in the body normally, even men do. Getting a small amount of added estrogenic compounds from food or drink could, what, maybe move someone up from being mid-normal in estrogen level to mid-high-normal if even that? But the mid-high-normal people aren’t exactly dropping dead.”

It isn’t that simple.

Estrogenic compounds do not always exert their effects only by the estrogen receptor.

Bisphenol-A actually does nothing at the estrogen receptor, but is extremely potent at estrogen-related-receptor gamma.

It is entirely possible for a quite minute dose to give a large increase in activity at that receptor, and so the situation is not equivalent to, for example, merely moving up from mid-normal to mid-high-normal natural estrogen levels.

Of course, many will not accept this.

There must, however, be causes for things such as the marked decline in male fertility that has occurred, as well as increases in various disease states. Macronutrient intake cannot be the sole explanation, and neither is air pollution.[/quote]

But if such small amounts are that bad, aren’t we already fucked? I’m sure my parents fed me canned food when I was younger.

‘Oh, no honey, those peas are loaded with xenoestrogens! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?’

Or does it wear off after a while? And if so is it really such a big deal?

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From the article:

“When the government approved rBGH, it was thought that IGF-1 from milk would be broken down in the human digestive tract,” says North. As it turns out, the casein in milk protects most of it, according to several independent studies."

Hell yeah. Gonna get my IGF-1 on and slam a gallon of pus-filled milk.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Yes, things you can’t see cannot be harmful.

And there are no regards in which any diseases are markedly more prevalent in our current society than has been true in the past, beyond what might be accounted for by increased sugar intake anyway. Therefore, there are no causes to explain such increases, as the increases don’t exist.

You’re right. Can’t see it, it can’t hurt.[/quote]

Not what I said. Not what anyone said. I dont deny fact, but sometimes I think “Shit, am I gonna enjoy any part of my life if I keep worrying shit all the time”

To some people this aint a big deal. Everyone buys canned food. Not everyone is a health wreck. I wont spend half my free time throwing away tomatoes I dont use, going to buy some more etc etc.

Ironic that todays article is also about stressing out less… then I see a thread about canned food over jarred/fresh food where people are arguing.