Sorry for being SUCH an asshole and not believing your 365 bench press (didn’t help that you wrote 360 and not 365, personal pet peeve of mine, unless you were using a 40lb bar…but anyway)
I still am having a hard time believing this AFTER WATCHING THE VIDEO!!! I am truly impressed. I bet if you worked on your form/technique you could possibly get to around 405 in no time. Rarely does anyone at any gym I’ve been to bench more than 3 plates, and if they have, they were a lot bigger than you, I guess you are just stronger than you are big.
Now I would like to know, what got you there? any specific programming or was it just lift/eat/repeat?
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No worries.
I am currently looking to get my technique down and see how high I can push all my lifts in the next 18 weeks.
As far as a program… I really don’t know what to write here. I have played sports and lifted weights for the last 14 years. Increasing sports performance was always the main goal so lifts were always heavy and specific-movement orientated. It has only been recently that I cared about aesthetics which is probably the reason I am, “stronger than I am big.” Not to mention being strong for your size makes wrestling a hell of a lot easier. I can’t think of one program over the years that gave me the best strength gains.
Sorry I couldn’t help more.
Good progress man! You look MUCH better than when you started…Ephedrine/caffeine stack can do wonders to help you shed some more fat, might be something to consider.
Keep it up!
Awesome progress!
We are both on somewhat of a similar plan.
I too have only recently really cared about aesthetics. I was never able to build myself to anywhere near a 365 press with ease but just lifted and didn’t really care about anything else.
What kinds of changes did you make in adapting to your new ideology?
I know you said that you were playing around with carb cycling and switched your split around. What worked what didn’t work.
When you went to your new split did you change anything else such as reps or do you follow some type of periodization program?
I know that you said that you haven’t set any PR’s but it sounded like you were at least able to maintain which is what I am trying to do. I hit that point where if I lose more I lose strength and brought myself back up until I come up with a new plan.
After reading your diet I am considering supplementing with BCAA"s. What has your experience been like with them?
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What kinds of changes did you make in adapting to your new ideology?
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When moving from sports performance to building muscle the main change would have to be the assistant lifts, IMO. I use to hit the heavy complex lifts in a plan of movement the was most beneficial, ie. incline press for football, and was done. Now I try to hit chest from multiple angles and with different sets/reps. Looking at my quad workout above I go from low reps to high in different exercises while the sets decrease. I use that idea for all muscle groups and I think it is very commonplace to do that.
I had great results uses the four day on one day off split but as weights increased my joints became sore and my muscles still felt fatigued when it came time to train again. This is the reason I moved to a muscle being hit once per week.
No, so far I have used the same volume and intensity the idea was just to increase rest.
Don’t think I used them long enough to give you an answer on this. From the schedule I put up earlier I replaced the two afternoon BCAA/Glutamine cocktails with 2 scoops of whey. I did this after analysis my intake and realizing I wasn’t getting the protein intake I wanted.
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[quote]JLone wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Am I the only one here who is going to call BS on the 360 flat barbell press??? (I assume this is Bench Press)[/quote]
Really? I assume you think 360 is high?
I have to say this makes my day. I watched a guy at the gym last night(about my size) squat a shit-ton of weight and it made me want to hide my legs in shame. So I needed a boost.[/quote]
ok, well, yea, 360 IS high and I do still highly doubt the OP.
My buddy is 5’8" 195, squats 535(max),deadlifts 585(max) and has benched 355, knocking on 365’s door. My friend is way more ripped/muscular with an even smaller frame and he worked his ass off to get those numbers, so yea, 360 is still BS in my eyes.
What was the “shit ton of weight” that the guy sqautted? Did he look better than the OP? I know that we are discussing strength and that the “looks” aren’t as important, but strength is visible to a degree[/quote]
You’re an idiot. The OP absolutely has adequate musculature based on looks to bench 360 (not much). Plenty of guys that size that are benching that or more.
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Plenty of guys that size that are benching that or more.
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Thanks for keeping my feet on the ground LM.
Just for record and so people can give their opinion if they want.
My current eating plan looks like this:
10am - 2 Scoops of whey
noon - 2 Scoops of whey
2pm - Footlong Double meat sub (Protein-92, Carbs-100, Fat-20)
Or I will have a burrito with similar macros
5pm - Surge Recovery
5:30pm - Train
7pm - Big meal (Average around 1,500 calories, shot for 100 grams of protein)
8pm - Cottage Cheese and Yogurt (Optional, depending on macros in the big meal)
On none training days I will skip the Surge recovery and my big meal will have about half the carbs of a training day.
I am not a nutrition expert or anything but ill throw in my two cents… based on what you wrote out your primary sources of protein are either protein powder or a restaurant bought sub or burrito(i am assuming that is restaurant bought since you said double meat footlong).
Restaurant bought meat such as subway isn’t really meat it’s more like fat, fillers, monosodium glutamate, and a chicken’s testicles ground up cooked frozen at some factory that hires illegal immigrants and microwaved at the subway location.
Chipotle chicken is not that bad it is not the leanest but it is not bad. If I absolutely must eat out and in a hurry and can’t cook ill go to chipotle get a burrito bowl no rice both beans double chicken and lots of tomatoes and that’s all. If it is after a workout I will get rice.
I don’t know if your schedule/life routine allows it but I would try to replace some of those powders with some quality sources of protein such as 7 eggs all yolks instead of the two scoops of whey at noon. or wake up an hour earlier take the whey drink some coffee watch the news and eat the eggs before you go to work.
I would defintely replace the footlong sub double meat with something quality such as a steak with a big salad, some salmon, some tilapia, anything really you can probably find a good sit down restaurant around where u work that serves something good.
Preworkout I would go with Surge Recovery mixed in with some oatmeal and milk.
And not making the cottage cheese before bed optional but rather mandatory throwing in some flax seed to slow digestion or getting some casein protein.
This thread is great to show how long it takes to build some solid muscle but how fast a lot of fat can be lost. Great work keep it up. Hope you keep updating.
The progress on here is incredible! Good job, OP!
It has been a little over six months since my OP in this thread.
Current Stats:
Height, 5foot 9inches (still)
Weight, 208lb
Body Fat, 17.7% (Found using same shitty home calipers)
Natural (still)
Lifts:
Bench Press- 3851
Squat- 3553
Dead Lift- 425*1
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Here is my log if interested.
I will also throw up my pictures in the log I just like updating this RMP as it has my journey over the last 6 months in it.
Nice progress man.
I want to see updates on your wheels. Your bench press has increased since your first posts, but your squat and your dead have stayed the same. You’re making good progress, but it is a bit concerning that your bench has gone up 25 pounds and your squat has stayed the same.