589 at 132

Looking good you are improving I can see but you are right I bet the lack of sleep is what was getting to your progress the most. You will get to your goals just keep at it and with the help everyone is giving you.

As far as the belt goes use it sparingly as an assister, you are feeling more stable when you wear it because your body’s stabilizer muscles are still progressing so the belt helps but also take a lot of the load off of your body’s natural stabilizers so they will not progress if you use it to much so keep it in mind. Also with squat and deadlift use the power in your hips more if will really help you drive the weight and move it where you want.

You are well on your way especially with that burning drive inside most people would never do what your doing especially working out alone in the process.

Hi Susan. It is great you are starting a log :slight_smile:

Bench - I would not wear a belt except for heavy singles or doubles. When lowering the weight try to keep elbows tucked. Try rowing the weight down and pinching your shoulders together. It is hard to tell if you are using your lats from the angle of the video.

Great job on your workouts. And good luck with your goals.

[quote]cvb wrote:
Hi Susan. It is great you are starting a log :slight_smile:

Bench - I would not wear a belt except for heavy singles or doubles. When lowering the weight try to keep elbows tucked. Try rowing the weight down and pinching your shoulders together. It is hard to tell if you are using your lats from the angle of the video.

Great job on your workouts. And good luck with your goals.[/quote]

Hi, Claire!

Yes, I know that the belt isn’t ideal at all, especially at this point. Just using it as a reminder to keep my tummy pushed out right now. I will try again soon without it and see if I am able to stay that way without it.

Sorry for the angle of the video (awful, I know) but the guys were using the equipment around me that I set my camera on. That was all that I could manage at the time.

My lats I need to work on, for sure. My grip is more comfortable the closer I have my hands together on the bar and setting up is sometimes hard. A lot of things to remember. I wish I had have posted video when I first became interested and it maybe would have solved a lot of these bad habits and form issues.

Thank you sooooooo much for your input though. Hope you still follow along and give me some suggestions. Nice seeing you around again:)

[quote]dianab wrote:
Masters is over 40. I’m not sure you are there yet.
There is no way I am going to put 163 onto my totals by November, I have no illusions of that, but I want to compete anyways. Our club and the gym it is run out of are new, and I want to represent, even as a novice lifter.

We have one girl who just started PL 2 weeks ago and who has no lifting experience. She is going to give it a shot as well.

I found at the meet I watched in Ottawa, yes there are some very accomplished lifers, but there is also a gang of novices, and all were welcomed equally. I’m finding out more and more that the PL community are just a great bunch of guys and girls who all seem to want to help, advise and further the sport. Dave has also been awesome, he answers all my questions and concerns right away.

If you get the chance, come and try out and don’t be worried bout your experience level. Everyone is really supportive and it’s going to be so much fun!

Just let me know if you need any other info, my PL gym owner is very active in the federation and has the goods on all the info.[/quote]

Not quite yet but not that far off:)

You have my greatest respect just going to compete, diana. It’s more than most will ever do. I think it will be a great learning experience for you and I’d love to hear all about your prep and the meet. I want all the details, baby!

It is a very supportive community, in my opinion and experience. Seems to me that others get a kick out seeing us do well just as they would for themselves.

I appreciate the invite and I promise that if I can swing the time off of work, I will be there!

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
So when is this event you get to participate in?
Do you have anyone you train with?
I don’t, and sometimes I wonder if it would help![/quote]

http://www.rawunitymeet.com/ This is the one that hopefully I qualify for. fingers crossed

I train with no one, presently. It sure would make things easier if I had a partner but I don’t so I do what I can. Eric views all of my videos and answers all of my questions. I truly could not find a better, more supportive person to work with.

If there is someone that you can workout with, I would say do that. I would also suggest filming your lifts and posting them here. Don’t do what I did and stumble along on your own. Anything can look good in type but without actually seeing what you’re doing, it’s next to impossible to help. Don’t be shy about posting them. I put mine up and mine are anything but perfect. However, in years to come, I plan on looking back on them to see how far I’ve come.

[quote]matt_stuart wrote:
Looking good you are improving I can see but you are right I bet the lack of sleep is what was getting to your progress the most. You will get to your goals just keep at it and with the help everyone is giving you.

As far as the belt goes use it sparingly as an assister, you are feeling more stable when you wear it because your body’s stabilizer muscles are still progressing so the belt helps but also take a lot of the load off of your body’s natural stabilizers so they will not progress if you use it to much so keep it in mind. Also with squat and deadlift use the power in your hips more if will really help you drive the weight and move it where you want.

You are well on your way especially with that burning drive inside most people would never do what your doing especially working out alone in the process.[/quote]

Haha! Hi Matt:)

Yes, you’re right and I’m trying a bunch of different things to see what works best and feels right for me.

I will film deadlifts tomorrow and hopefully, you can let me know if you think it’s improved at all. Squats were a little better last night but I was given a few suggestions about them today. Always something to be improved upon.

Have to have drive now! I do not have long to reach the goal I have set for myself. For now, I have to just focus on one day at a time. If I look too far ahead, it seems unattainable.

Send me your tire flipping video by the way!!! Please and thank you:)

[quote]MsM wrote:
cvb wrote:
Hi Susan. It is great you are starting a log :slight_smile:

Bench - I would not wear a belt except for heavy singles or doubles. When lowering the weight try to keep elbows tucked. Try rowing the weight down and pinching your shoulders together. It is hard to tell if you are using your lats from the angle of the video.

Great job on your workouts. And good luck with your goals.

Hi, Claire!

Yes, I know that the belt isn’t ideal at all, especially at this point. Just using it as a reminder to keep my tummy pushed out right now. I will try again soon without it and see if I am able to stay that way without it.

Sorry for the angle of the video (awful, I know) but the guys were using the equipment around me that I set my camera on. That was all that I could manage at the time.

My lats I need to work on, for sure. My grip is more comfortable the closer I have my hands together on the bar and setting up is sometimes hard. A lot of things to remember. I wish I had have posted video when I first became interested and it maybe would have solved a lot of these bad habits and form issues.

Thank you sooooooo much for your input though. Hope you still follow along and give me some suggestions. Nice seeing you around again:)[/quote]

I will be following along:) I video all my workouts and have the same problem with the camera. It is worth posting it no matter what angle you manage to get. I can’t believe all the support I receive from on-line plers and it is priceless since I can not learn from anyone at my gym.

I wish I started out posting videos. I have two years of bad habits to get rid of and it is tough and sometimes frustrating.

Claire

I looked and I thought I had one of me but I guess not on my camera I will see if I have pictures also from my photographer. You are doing good just keep at it and do not worry about the time frame to reach your goal. If you want to do it and put in the effort you will get there. Show me the updates tomorrow then of the deadlift. I am getting my ass kicked by kung fu master tomorrow, but I guess its only fair as I torture people so I need it also. haha

-Matt

[quote]MsM wrote:

Haha! Hi Matt:)

Yes, you’re right and I’m trying a bunch of different things to see what works best and feels right for me.

I will film deadlifts tomorrow and hopefully, you can let me know if you think it’s improved at all. Squats were a little better last night but I was given a few suggestions about them today. Always something to be improved upon.

Have to have drive now! I do not have long to reach the goal I have set for myself. For now, I have to just focus on one day at a time. If I look too far ahead, it seems unattainable.

Send me your tire flipping video by the way!!! Please and thank you:)[/quote]

Hey Susan,

Just looking at your squat vid from the other day and I’m wondering if it may help you to turn out your toes a bit more to help you get some depth going on. You may need a bit wider of a stance, if it’s comfortable, I’m not sure but you look tall, LOL, of course most people look tall compared to me.

I use my oly shoes for squats, they have a small wedge at the heel and so help to achieve some depth. They are legal in Canadian federations, you may want to check if they are OK for the US Raw Fed.

I have adidas, but there is a guy in Winnipeg who will custom make you a pair for $150, tax and shipping included. They are good quality shoes, most of the O-lifters I know have them, the business is reputable and you won’t get ripped off. If you are ever interested, just PM me and I’ll send you the info.

I think someone else mentioned dumping the belt for now to utilize your stabilizers more. Maybe a little bit of core strength work could be in order.

Looking forward to your updates!

Diana

Can anyone show me which stabilizers on an anatomy chart?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Can anyone show me which stabilizers on an anatomy chart?[/quote]

LOL, I can’t.
I guess what I mean is keeping oneself “tight” going into the lift.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Can anyone show me which stabilizers on an anatomy chart?[/quote]

When you click this link there is a list on the right on all the muscles, including stabilizers, on the right of the page.

[quote]rondastarr wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Can anyone show me which stabilizers on an anatomy chart?

When you click this link there is a list on the right on all the muscles, including stabilizers, on the right of the page.

[/quote]

Good link. thanks.

I have been trying to understand the whole stabilizer muscle thing and wearing a belt and I still cannot wrap my head around it.

Every guy I know with a big squat wears a belt. Same with big deadlifts.

I think it is generally unnecessary at lighter loads but I don’t understand how it makes your muscles weaker to wear one.

Wednesday GPP

Approximately 30 minutes of Bodyflex. Not entirely sure if this was an appropriate choice, I double-checked with Eric and was given a green light. I’m sure nobody here knows what it is and the best way the I can explain it is: yoga and stretching poses with a breathing technique. It is aerobic in nature and helps me with recovery, which I really need right now. In addition to that, I don’t want to lose any flexibility.

Day 2, Week 4 (yesterday)

Bench

barx6
65x5
85x4x1 (a little too heavy)
80x4x4
Lifts (31)

Deadlift (below knee)

95x5
115x5
145x2
125x3
115x3x2
Lifts (21)

*Although I had every intentions of doing different weight here, I had to really play around (as you will see) with the weight. When I have to estimate what weight I can do the work with, on squats and dl’s, I am high so I have to lower it to complete required work. My form? lol Frustrating.

SLDL

65x6x5 (30)

DB Flyes

10x10x5 (50)

Plate Squats

25x6x6 (36)

Yesterday, by the time I got to work, walking hurt. Thankfully, I didn’t have to move around too many large appliances. This is getting to be beyond frustrating because for having put a month in, I don’t really see what I consider to be a significant improvement. Perhaps I am just sore and tired but I expected more from myself. However, moving on.

Today will be Bodyflex again. It helps a great deal, even if the relief is only temporary.

[quote]cvb wrote:

I will be following along:) I video all my workouts and have the same problem with the camera. It is worth posting it no matter what angle you manage to get. I can’t believe all the support I receive from on-line plers and it is priceless since I can not learn from anyone at my gym.

I wish I started out posting videos. I have two years of bad habits to get rid of and it is tough and sometimes frustrating.

Claire[/quote]

I hope so although there isn’t much to follow right now:)

Yes, good thing for the internet or I doubt I’d ever make any progress in my current location. Doubt I’ve ever seen more than about 10 people in my gym at a time.

[quote]matt_stuart wrote:
I looked and I thought I had one of me but I guess not on my camera I will see if I have pictures also from my photographer. You are doing good just keep at it and do not worry about the time frame to reach your goal. If you want to do it and put in the effort you will get there. Show me the updates tomorrow then of the deadlift. I am getting my ass kicked by kung fu master tomorrow, but I guess its only fair as I torture people so I need it also. haha

-Matt[/quote]

Videos are up but…well, you’ll see:)

Hopefully your eye is doing a little better today.

[quote]dianab wrote:
Hey Susan,

Just looking at your squat vid from the other day and I’m wondering if it may help you to turn out your toes a bit more to help you get some depth going on. You may need a bit wider of a stance, if it’s comfortable, I’m not sure but you look tall, LOL, of course most people look tall compared to me.

I use my oly shoes for squats, they have a small wedge at the heel and so help to achieve some depth. They are legal in Canadian federations, you may want to check if they are OK for the US Raw Fed.

I have adidas, but there is a guy in Winnipeg who will custom make you a pair for $150, tax and shipping included. They are good quality shoes, most of the O-lifters I know have them, the business is reputable and you won’t get ripped off. If you are ever interested, just PM me and I’ll send you the info.

I think someone else mentioned dumping the belt for now to utilize your stabilizers more. Maybe a little bit of core strength work could be in order.

Looking forward to your updates!

Diana[/quote]

I think I will try that, diana; thank you. Yes, I am somewhat tall at 5’10" and am experimenting until I find what is comfortable and works for me. Obviously, I haven’t found it yet but it’s a work in progress.

Thank you also for the shoe tip; I’ll check with Eric to see about that although I’d rather not invest in yet another pair of shoes if I didn’t have to. If it will benefit me, however, of course I would consider them.

You are very helpful with all of your resources, thanks!

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Good link. thanks.

I have been trying to understand the whole stabilizer muscle thing and wearing a belt and I still cannot wrap my head around it.

Every guy I know with a big squat wears a belt. Same with big deadlifts.

I think it is generally unnecessary at lighter loads but I don’t understand how it makes your muscles weaker to wear one.[/quote]

I’m sure glad that you brought that up, since I’ve always wondered the same thing. Like I’ve said, it just reminds me at this point to keep my tummy out. If I don’t use it, I simply forget to do it.

[quote]MsM wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Good link. thanks.

I have been trying to understand the whole stabilizer muscle thing and wearing a belt and I still cannot wrap my head around it.

Every guy I know with a big squat wears a belt. Same with big deadlifts.

I think it is generally unnecessary at lighter loads but I don’t understand how it makes your muscles weaker to wear one.

I’m sure glad that you brought that up, since I’ve always wondered the same thing. Like I’ve said, it just reminds me at this point to keep my tummy out. If I don’t use it, I simply forget to do it.[/quote]

When it comes to belts, everyone has a different opinion :slight_smile: This is just my opinion and I am not an expert.

On squats, if it helps you learn to breath right and push against your belt, I would continue to use it.

On the bench, I just don’t think it is needed except for the heavier sets but if it helps you focus on your breathing it won’t hurt. I never touched a belt until I needed it to hold my bench shirt down and just recently started using it on my heavy raw lifts. I started using the belt on my bench because I have a big arch and it sometime puts a lot of pressure on my low back.

You are doing a different program then me. I have two upper and two lower days. I never touch my belt except for ME days. But I have a weak abs and want to work them as much as possible.

Claire

[quote]cvb wrote:

When it comes to belts, everyone has a different opinion :slight_smile: This is just my opinion and I am not an expert.

On squats, if it helps you learn to breath right and push against your belt, I would continue to use it.

On the bench, I just don’t think it is needed except for the heavier sets but if it helps you focus on your breathing it won’t hurt. I never touched a belt until I needed it to hold my bench shirt down and just recently started using it on my heavy raw lifts. I started using the belt on my bench because I have a big arch and it sometime puts a lot of pressure on my low back.

You are doing a different program then me. I have two upper and two lower days. I never touch my belt except for ME days. But I have a weak abs and want to work them as much as possible.

Claire[/quote]

But you are a very good lifter and that is why I value your opinion, Claire, and always have.

Having tried both ways now, enough to form an opinion, I don’t think a belt is necessary for benching but I don’t think I will continue to squat without it for now.

GPP

1.5 mile walk
30 minutes Bodyflex

Still feeling quite stiff, especially in the hams and back, however, back at it tomorrow since Saturday is the only day this weekend I’m able to head to the gym.

Its just practice practice practice.

I like using a belt when I go heavy (90% or more) on bench b/c of my bad lower back. Just gives more stability, lets me arch higher and harder.

Remember, accelerate! Speed is the key. you’re looking a little slow.

[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
Its just practice practice practice.

I like using a belt when I go heavy (90% or more) on bench b/c of my bad lower back. Just gives more stability, lets me arch higher and harder.

Remember, accelerate! Speed is the key. you’re looking a little slow.[/quote]

I know and I was thinking that at the time too, believe me. I’m trying very hard to remember a few things and it seems like when I concentrate on one, the others go right out the window.

My big fault is that I allow myself to become frustrated easily. In order not to do that, I have to slow down a little…unfortunately, slowing down literally slows me down.

It’s late here and I have no idea if that even made sense.

Week 4, Day 5

Squat

barx6
60x6
70x6x5
Lifts (42)

Bench

barx6
55x6x2
70x4x5
Lifts (38)

DB Flyes

10x10x5 (50)

Push Ups (Hands wider than shoulders)

8x5 (40)

Straight Leg Sit Ups

10x4 (40)

Hanging Knee Raise

10x3 (30)

Tanx30 minutes - thanks Terry!

Although it was not perfect, I did feel a little more comfortable benching today. My third set, I was actually able to feel my legs kicking in. Still, I saw a little movement so I doubt they’re as tight as they could be but I still felt a difference and it did make it easier. The bar still moves too slow but I think that will change as things become second nature.

Hmmm I think that I need more box squats. My depth seemed to be all over the place although I am sure that a few of them I got low enough, now I just need to make that consistent. Oh, I did use the suggestion of widening my stance and pointing my toes out more and what a difference! Definitely something I will keep doing!

Sit ups actually hurt today and by the time I got to the hanging leg raise, they became knee raises. No way was I getting my legs up.

The one very annoying thing from today was that I had (what I believe to be) my best set yet of squats and I didn’t hit record hard enough so I didn’t get it. I was positive that I had it that time.

So, not a perfect day but I did feel things I hadn’t felt myself using before that I know I should so time to work on that.

I’m amazed that you can get that many pushups AFTER benching and db flyes!!

I take a wider stance in the squat, and feel it in my inner thighs for days…

your depth looked decent to me!