50% of Tax Dollars Going to the Military

[quote]smithers584 wrote:

[quote]formerfatboy wrote:
We need to start focusing internally. There are enough problems here in the US now that demand the people’s time and energy.

Our foreign interventionist policy has failed again. [/quote]

Shazaam!!!

We need to take care of ourselves first, before we can take care of others. This is human nature, to take care of your own kind, look out for eachother, but for some reason as a country, we cannot do this. And whats even more mind bottling (yes, thats a Will Ferrell quote), is that our gov. is so tied up in taking care of other countries that they have completely neglected their own.

One good thing I can say that I have experienced from the government is the VA benefits that help veterans get through college. I still cant believe they pay me this much to go to school.[/quote]

Totally agree

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Orion: I’m going to continue to ignore you as I have for a while now. [/quote]

Yeah, I noticed that you ignore things that make your head hurt and trust me, you block out much more than just me.

On the plus side, now that I know that you are ignoring me it must be much more satisfying for you.

Always glad to be of service.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess rather than getting into a pissing match over percentages, I will rephrase my question, why does it not bother this forum that we spend so much on the military, our social programs are a drop in the bucket. Do we have to be have to spend 8 dollars to 1 dollar in China to be superior, could we not cut it down to 4 dollars to every dollar china spends [/quote]

Okay, first off, there’s no fracking way that the govenrment spends 50% of it’s budget on the military.

Second off, you’re one percentage hyperlink was totally biased. A bunch of anti-war protesters obviously made that crap up. I mean comeon, why don’t you research a couple of sites before making a conclusion on this controversy. For example, a research study shows creatine doesn’t help build muscle tissue or help with anaerobic exercises at all, so are you going to stop taking it forever, because one study says it causes cancer or some crap.

Thirdly, why do you think we’re a super power in the world with the finest military in the world. Um, yeah, we pay big bucks to have good gear and a high level of technology so we can win the fight. Maybe you’d prefer moving to China where everyone is required to join the military. Oh, you don’t want to go, “we kill yo’, yo’ family, and yo’ fwiends!” I mean comeon, we have great things in America in regards to other countries, and there’s a reason for that. Prehaps you’d prefer living in a Communist country. I here North Korea is accepting applications.

OOOO, oooo, ooooo, I have another idea…why don’t we fracking start spending money on America rather than all these other fracking countries that hate us and don’t want us their anyway. On this point I’ll agree government funds could be better proportioned, but when it comes to dealing with the military and keeping our freedoms and way of life their really isn’t an issue. Put your life on the line and see if you want to do it for free…

v/r

Gremlin

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail!

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

Where’s the fail?

I see a dictator that threatened the US supply of oil and who attempted to assassinate a former president with his neck stretched and bacteria consuming his flesh.

So how did MedicarePartDBush fail in that respect? You can argue whether you think it was “right” or not but not whether he “failed.”[/quote]

Because “you” do not have shit.

And even if there was a mystical “you” then you would still not have the resources.

This is liberalism with guns, nothing else.

Same delusions, different theater.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

Where’s the fail?

I see a dictator that threatened the US supply of oil and who attempted to assassinate a former president with his neck stretched and bacteria consuming his flesh.

So how did MedicarePartDBush fail in that respect? You can argue whether you think it was “right” or not but not whether he “failed.”[/quote]

Because “you” do not have shit.

And even if there was a mystical “you” then you would still not have the resources.

This is liberalism with guns, nothing else.

Same delusions, different theater.

[/quote]
You didn’t answer Die Frage. You just spun up your same old broken record on the ol’ Victrola.[/quote]

No, you did put your spin on things and I spun it back to where it originally was.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

Where’s the fail?

I see a dictator that threatened the US supply of oil and who attempted to assassinate a former president with his neck stretched and bacteria consuming his flesh.

So how did MedicarePartDBush fail in that respect? You can argue whether you think it was “right” or not but not whether he “failed.”[/quote]

Because “you” do not have shit.

And even if there was a mystical “you” then you would still not have the resources.

This is liberalism with guns, nothing else.

Same delusions, different theater.

[/quote]
You didn’t answer Die Frage. You just spun up your same old broken record on the ol’ Victrola.[/quote]

No, you did put your spin on things and I spun it back to where it originally was.

[/quote]
“Where it originally was”…was wrong. Don’t flatter yourself, you aint no DJ extraordinaire.[/quote]

Good, so that you have your answer:

You do not get to decide what constitutes “helping” people.

Coming from a culture that is thousands of miles away you are uniquely unqualified to help these people.

Giving government the permission to “help” people at gunpoint is practically a garantuee that they will help the shit out of people all over the world because for some, very well connected, people that means great business opportunities.

Even if there were objective criteria that could somehow measure how much you “helped”, and there are not, you would still not have the right to “help” them at gunpoint and to take other peoples resources to finance it.

To top it off, you are broke and so even if we believed in the mystical union of all American taxpayers, that “we” should probably get its act together at home.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

Where’s the fail?
[/quote]
I’m sorry, I thought the pic was funny and represented fail – maybe it doesn’t but that’s not the point I was trying to make.

Saying “we have enough resources to help everyone here” is fail for so many reasons:

  1. who is we? I only have enough to support me and mine.
  2. If there were enough resources here there would be no foreign trade.
  3. clearly not “everyone” can get a piece of the pie otherwise dogooders would not feel the need to rob Peter to pay Paul.

Am I still wrong?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

That image in no way reflects the statement I made that you conveniently took out of context.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
We have enough resources to help everyone here… [/quote]

Quoted for fail![/quote]

Where’s the fail?

I see a dictator that threatened the US supply of oil and who attempted to assassinate a former president with his neck stretched and bacteria consuming his flesh.

So how did MedicarePartDBush fail in that respect? You can argue whether you think it was “right” or not but not whether he “failed.”[/quote]

So how does spending a trillion dollars to kill some one a win ?

[quote]gremlin1267 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess rather than getting into a pissing match over percentages, I will rephrase my question, why does it not bother this forum that we spend so much on the military, our social programs are a drop in the bucket. Do we have to be have to spend 8 dollars to 1 dollar in China to be superior, could we not cut it down to 4 dollars to every dollar china spends [/quote]

Okay, first off, there’s no fracking way that the govenrment spends 50% of it’s budget on the military.

Second off, you’re one percentage hyperlink was totally biased. A bunch of anti-war protesters obviously made that crap up. I mean comeon, why don’t you research a couple of sites before making a conclusion on this controversy. For example, a research study shows creatine doesn’t help build muscle tissue or help with anaerobic exercises at all, so are you going to stop taking it forever, because one study says it causes cancer or some crap.

Thirdly, why do you think we’re a super power in the world with the finest military in the world. Um, yeah, we pay big bucks to have good gear and a high level of technology so we can win the fight. Maybe you’d prefer moving to China where everyone is required to join the military. Oh, you don’t want to go, “we kill yo’, yo’ family, and yo’ fwiends!” I mean comeon, we have great things in America in regards to other countries, and there’s a reason for that. Prehaps you’d prefer living in a Communist country. I here North Korea is accepting applications.

OOOO, oooo, ooooo, I have another idea…why don’t we fracking start spending money on America rather than all these other fracking countries that hate us and don’t want us their anyway. On this point I’ll agree government funds could be better proportioned, but when it comes to dealing with the military and keeping our freedoms and way of life their really isn’t an issue. Put your life on the line and see if you want to do it for free…

v/r

Gremlin[/quote]

Well let me start off by saying FRACK YU :slight_smile:

We could spend half of what we are spending today and still spend four times what the Chinese spend and they are in second place

We almost spend as much as all other countries combined, do we have to be THAT SUPIRIOR? War is expensive and America should take care of America first.

I think the chief reason is that it’s very difficult for a layman to know how much spending is necessary to keep us safe and security. Without that, it’s hard to say that the military is spending ‘too much.’

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]gremlin1267 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess rather than getting into a pissing match over percentages, I will rephrase my question, why does it not bother this forum that we spend so much on the military, our social programs are a drop in the bucket. Do we have to be have to spend 8 dollars to 1 dollar in China to be superior, could we not cut it down to 4 dollars to every dollar china spends [/quote]

Okay, first off, there’s no fracking way that the govenrment spends 50% of it’s budget on the military.

Second off, you’re one percentage hyperlink was totally biased. A bunch of anti-war protesters obviously made that crap up. I mean comeon, why don’t you research a couple of sites before making a conclusion on this controversy. For example, a research study shows creatine doesn’t help build muscle tissue or help with anaerobic exercises at all, so are you going to stop taking it forever, because one study says it causes cancer or some crap.

Thirdly, why do you think we’re a super power in the world with the finest military in the world. Um, yeah, we pay big bucks to have good gear and a high level of technology so we can win the fight. Maybe you’d prefer moving to China where everyone is required to join the military. Oh, you don’t want to go, “we kill yo’, yo’ family, and yo’ fwiends!” I mean comeon, we have great things in America in regards to other countries, and there’s a reason for that. Prehaps you’d prefer living in a Communist country. I here North Korea is accepting applications.

OOOO, oooo, ooooo, I have another idea…why don’t we fracking start spending money on America rather than all these other fracking countries that hate us and don’t want us their anyway. On this point I’ll agree government funds could be better proportioned, but when it comes to dealing with the military and keeping our freedoms and way of life their really isn’t an issue. Put your life on the line and see if you want to do it for free…

v/r

Gremlin[/quote]

Well let me start off by saying FRACK YU :slight_smile:

We could spend half of what we are spending today and still spend four times what the Chinese spend and they are in second place

We almost spend as much as all other countries combined, do we have to be THAT SUPIRIOR? War is expensive and America should take care of America first.
[/quote]

So, tell me. How does China’s military stack up against ours? What are their surface to air missile capabilities, anti-cruise missile capabilities, etc. How does their infantry compare to ours? Can they match our M1A1 Abrams tank?

I thought so. You have no idea how much we should be spending on military.

[quote]Scuba19 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]gremlin1267 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess rather than getting into a pissing match over percentages, I will rephrase my question, why does it not bother this forum that we spend so much on the military, our social programs are a drop in the bucket. Do we have to be have to spend 8 dollars to 1 dollar in China to be superior, could we not cut it down to 4 dollars to every dollar china spends [/quote]

Okay, first off, there’s no fracking way that the govenrment spends 50% of it’s budget on the military.

Second off, you’re one percentage hyperlink was totally biased. A bunch of anti-war protesters obviously made that crap up. I mean comeon, why don’t you research a couple of sites before making a conclusion on this controversy. For example, a research study shows creatine doesn’t help build muscle tissue or help with anaerobic exercises at all, so are you going to stop taking it forever, because one study says it causes cancer or some crap.

Thirdly, why do you think we’re a super power in the world with the finest military in the world. Um, yeah, we pay big bucks to have good gear and a high level of technology so we can win the fight. Maybe you’d prefer moving to China where everyone is required to join the military. Oh, you don’t want to go, “we kill yo’, yo’ family, and yo’ fwiends!” I mean comeon, we have great things in America in regards to other countries, and there’s a reason for that. Prehaps you’d prefer living in a Communist country. I here North Korea is accepting applications.

OOOO, oooo, ooooo, I have another idea…why don’t we fracking start spending money on America rather than all these other fracking countries that hate us and don’t want us their anyway. On this point I’ll agree government funds could be better proportioned, but when it comes to dealing with the military and keeping our freedoms and way of life their really isn’t an issue. Put your life on the line and see if you want to do it for free…

v/r

Gremlin[/quote]

Well let me start off by saying FRACK YU :slight_smile:

We could spend half of what we are spending today and still spend four times what the Chinese spend and they are in second place

We almost spend as much as all other countries combined, do we have to be THAT SUPIRIOR? War is expensive and America should take care of America first.
[/quote]

So, tell me. How does China’s military stack up against ours? What are their surface to air missile capabilities, anti-cruise missile capabilities, etc. How does their infantry compare to ours? Can they match our M1A1 Abrams tank?

I thought so. You have no idea how much we should be spending on military.[/quote]

No, but he does have a sense that at some point enough must be enough.

How “superior” do you have to be until you will feel somehwhat safe?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Scuba19 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]gremlin1267 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess rather than getting into a pissing match over percentages, I will rephrase my question, why does it not bother this forum that we spend so much on the military, our social programs are a drop in the bucket. Do we have to be have to spend 8 dollars to 1 dollar in China to be superior, could we not cut it down to 4 dollars to every dollar china spends [/quote]

Okay, first off, there’s no fracking way that the govenrment spends 50% of it’s budget on the military.

Second off, you’re one percentage hyperlink was totally biased. A bunch of anti-war protesters obviously made that crap up. I mean comeon, why don’t you research a couple of sites before making a conclusion on this controversy. For example, a research study shows creatine doesn’t help build muscle tissue or help with anaerobic exercises at all, so are you going to stop taking it forever, because one study says it causes cancer or some crap.

Thirdly, why do you think we’re a super power in the world with the finest military in the world. Um, yeah, we pay big bucks to have good gear and a high level of technology so we can win the fight. Maybe you’d prefer moving to China where everyone is required to join the military. Oh, you don’t want to go, “we kill yo’, yo’ family, and yo’ fwiends!” I mean comeon, we have great things in America in regards to other countries, and there’s a reason for that. Prehaps you’d prefer living in a Communist country. I here North Korea is accepting applications.

OOOO, oooo, ooooo, I have another idea…why don’t we fracking start spending money on America rather than all these other fracking countries that hate us and don’t want us their anyway. On this point I’ll agree government funds could be better proportioned, but when it comes to dealing with the military and keeping our freedoms and way of life their really isn’t an issue. Put your life on the line and see if you want to do it for free…

v/r

Gremlin[/quote]

Well let me start off by saying FRACK YU :slight_smile:

We could spend half of what we are spending today and still spend four times what the Chinese spend and they are in second place

We almost spend as much as all other countries combined, do we have to be THAT SUPIRIOR? War is expensive and America should take care of America first.
[/quote]

So, tell me. How does China’s military stack up against ours? What are their surface to air missile capabilities, anti-cruise missile capabilities, etc. How does their infantry compare to ours? Can they match our M1A1 Abrams tank?

I thought so. You have no idea how much we should be spending on military.[/quote]

No, but he does have a sense that at some point enough must be enough.

How “superior” do you have to be until you will feel somehwhat safe?

[/quote]

I agree, at some point enough is enough. I’m sure there are things that could be cut from the Defense budget.

On the other hand, while only a small percentage of our 330 million population is capable of fighting in combat, China is capable of having a military that is bigger than our population.

By the way, technology costs money. We are no longer flying mechanically simple planes, driving mechanically simple tanks, or sailing in mechanically simple submarines and ships. Unfortunately, costs grows exponentially with technological advancement in weapons.