Hey guys its been four weeks four pins Why does it get red and swollen almost every time three of the four have done this I have researched and not sure why. I’m shooting one c of test enanthate once a week right delt first right quad second left quad third and right delt fourth. The only one that didn’t hurt turn red or swell was the right quad
How long does the swelling last? Is this your first cycle?
Multiple things could be going on.
- High alcohol content which inflames tissue
- Your gear has some contamination
- You are allergic to the oil or substance
- You are not getting it deep enough into the muscle and some is leaking out into the fatty tissue.
The swelling lasts about four days. And yes it’s my first cycle. If I go half .5 c do you think it will be better
What sort of pins are you using, how much oil are you injecting per shot, and what is your bf%?
1 cc a week? Why are you only running 1cc? Unless its 400mg per that’s a pretty low cycle. If its high mg gear then that can cause a bit of PIP and swelling. I had the problem with a 300test/300deca per cc Blend. Would swell and hurt like hell for a days with some heat to the touch.
However according to blood work and docs it was not a infection. Obviously the gear is not contaminated as it would be setting up infection in every shot and not just some so that’s a plus.
Im willing to bet to much BA or your not shooting the gear deep enough and its leaking out between the muscle and the fatty tissue and is causing a reaction. If the swelling and heat doesn’t go away you need to see a doc to be safe if however it is going away after a few days your either going to have to drop the cycle or deal with the pain. I dealt with the pain but it was a miserable 15 weeks.
I’m just starting this one. I’m not trying to compete so that’s why the low dose trying to get a lil of my youth back lol
Body fat around 18 percent. Slin pin .5 29g. But the one that didn’t swell or turn red I buried the needle
Yeah with a half in I would def have to bury it to make it work I use a 1in for quads and 5/8 for delts
So if it goes between muscle and fatty layer it’s bad. But sub q us okay and Im is okay
Its not so much that it is bad but but can be painful. It will still absorbed but at slower and usually more painful rate.
Does anyone know whats the smallest gauge needle in one inch length. And where I can get them
You can easily get 29g at pretty much any length. Just google 29g 1in lock luer syringes.
I orderd some 1 inch 29g needles I’m worried of hitting the bone in my delt is the one inch long enough to do that
I pin in my medial delt with 1.5 inch, no pain. a little soreness is part of what u signed up for
[quote]Donniebravo wrote:
I orderd some 1 inch 29g needles I’m worried of hitting the bone in my delt is the one inch long enough to do that[/quote]
Depends on thickness of your shoulders really. I use a 1in needel in my delta but I,dont bury it at all.
Okay cool and I’m cool with a lil soreness but this affected my lifting
[quote]bkfinest wrote:
I pin in my medial delt with 1.5 inch, no pain. a little soreness is part of what u signed up for[/quote]
Holly shit! 1 1/2" in the delt? That’s what I use for the glutes.
Donniebravo,
Ever try the glutes? It’s the only way I have pinned and never had an issue. Slight soreness the next day. I use a 25G to inject but a 21G to draw.
A few of you guys posted his issue could be that he’s getting some into the fat but there are guys who inject Sub Q. Just a question but would a bigger needle be better? Could the pressure you have to apply to get that thick oil out of such a small needle be causing the problem?
I haven’t tried the flutes yet that’s prob next step to try
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]bkfinest wrote:
I pin in my medial delt with 1.5 inch, no pain. a little soreness is part of what u signed up for[/quote]
Holly shit! 1 1/2" in the delt? That’s what I use for the glutes.
Donniebravo,
Ever try the glutes? It’s the only way I have pinned and never had an issue. Slight soreness the next day. I use a 25G to inject but a 21G to draw.
A few of you guys posted his issue could be that he’s getting some into the fat but there are guys who inject Sub Q. Just a question but would a bigger needle be better? Could the pressure you have to apply to get that thick oil out of such a small needle be causing the problem?
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yeah what he said.
1.5 in the delts, you might hit your rib cage.