48 Billion for AIDS in Africa WTF?!

Its amazing how millions are apparently dieing in africa from starvation, yet somehow they all manage to reproduce like rabbits!

When i here news in africa it’s usually about viloence of some kind and they show some militant armed with ak47s…so they apparently have no food to feed there kids but somehow manage to dig out enough for sub-machine guns…amazaing!!

clearly, the millions upon million of pounds in donations are put to good use.

If all they want to do is kill each other we should just wash our hands of them (at least when it comes to giving aid).

[quote]King Bling wrote:
Its amazing how millions are apparently dieing in africa from starvation, yet somehow they all manage to reproduce like rabbits!

When i here news in africa it’s usually about viloence of some kind and they show some militant armed with ak47s…so they apparently have no food to feed there kids but somehow manage to dig out enough for sub-machine guns…amazaing!!

clealry millions upon million of punds in donation are put to good use.

If all they want to do is kill each other we should just wash our hands of them (at least when it comes to giving aid).[/quote]

Actually, I think a military strike would be in order. I’m sure the CIA in involved but I am also sure they are fucking it up. I have no problem treating the problem but is sad to see us treating symptoms. There are murderous barbarians over there and if we have any responsibility to help, it would be in killing these animals.

[quote]King Bling wrote:
Its amazing how millions are apparently dieing in africa from starvation, yet somehow they all manage to reproduce like rabbits!

When i here news in africa it’s usually about viloence of some kind and they show some militant armed with ak47s…so they apparently have no food to feed there kids but somehow manage to dig out enough for sub-machine guns…amazaing!!

clearly, the millions upon million of pounds in donations are put to good use.

If all they want to do is kill each other we should just wash our hands of them (at least when it comes to giving aid).[/quote]

The majority aren’t educated, and there isn’t much to do in terms of entertainment. Can you blame them for enjoying sex? They don’t have a lot going on for them. Plus the rape rate is off the charts.

I don’t know if you’re just acting stupid or you actually are incredibly ignorant. There are militia and corrupt politicians that steal most of the aid and those are the guys with machine guns. What do you think? Every family has a gun? It’s Africa not Texas.

[quote]mharmar wrote:

I read a lot mainly ancient history and philosophy. If you look around us today Capitalism has failed, a lot of people aren’t happy, the poor are exploited by the wealthy, the middle class is exploited just as much. The world doesn’t have the resources to handle our consumer driven lifestyle therefore the first world is forced to keep the 3rd world in abject poverty only to bitch and moan whenever they are thrown a bone.

Honestly it is you and all these other lovers of capitalism who are wrong. Oh and for a pre-emptive strike no I don’t agree with communism it has failed miserably too. [/quote]

I was going to read further into this thread to get caught up, but had to stop and respond to this.

Capitalism has worked, and worked wonderfully. If you look at where it is not working, it is actually thrown into chaos by socialistic programs.

Where is our massive debt? Social Security and Medicare. Two big social programs that are just bleeding money.

You have said we need universal health care, but who here isn’t covered? Not very many. Most are actually illegal aliens. (Used to boost the numbers for political reasons.) The rest actually choose to not be insured. (Mostly young who think they are invulnerable.)

Right now our government spends more then Canada does on health care. If your poor, your covered. Then there are charities all over the place. Catholic Social Services, The Salvation Army, and others. I know a guy who had a $40,000 hospital bill covered by the Salvation Army.

I do know people without health insurance. But guess what, they got that nice new car in their driveway.

Socialism is a nice idea. It is actually about caring about people. But it has a real big flaw. It rewards failure, and punishes success.

A good example is how one person can give up a lot, save up, and have enough to send their child to college. Because they have money, they do not qualify for assistance, but their neighbor who wasted their money qualifies.

This probably does not convince you, but if you understood economics, (and if you believe in socialism then you do not,) this would make sense to you.

We lift weights. It does us no benefit to have the government lift those weights for us. If the government carries our children everywhere, when will they learn to walk?

The more help a person gets from their parents starting out, the less likely they are to succeed financially. (Statistics from “The Millionaire Next Door”.)

If you depend too much on the government to take care of you, how does that make you any different then a slave?

this thread has caught my attention for a few days and i have to add in my two cents. for starters, jawara im sorry to hear of your girlfriend, that is such a terrible thing and an unfortunate truth in our society as it is. noble as it is to try and help other countries get back on their feet,or even pick them up when they have always been down, we arent in any position to do that but to only make ourselves look good. celebrities milk that crap all the time. going on talk shows, patting him/herself on the back and practically applauding themselves for showing the world how much they care by telling the world how much money they have given those poor africans, and lived with them for two days, gets a photo op with a malnurished child showing the world he/she how caring and (not to mention unracist they are)compassionite they are, maybe adopting one or two of them and then go lecture the world about how ungrateful they are cause others are suffering worse than we are, and that they lived with them and they know what its like. and then go to a 5 star hotel, get bathed and cleaned, eat some gourmet food, hop on their multimillion dollar private jet back to the states, get in their limo, and go home to their 75 million dollar mansion with 25 bathrooms, then maybe go for a ride in their ferrari later on and go clubbin and the next day go on talk shows and go make themselves a good image. then of course you cant forget about the politician who does the very same thing (except live with them and adopt them cause it would ruin their political image) but so long as they are pictured there with a images of extreme poverty in the background and shaking hands with a couple of unfed families, they make sure they look as though they are the greatest of humanitarians.

we are the most hated country from what im hearing, and maybe for good reasons, who knows, but whats important, according to polictions and other so called do gooders is that we are supposed to look good. nevermind we go into countries that dont want us there in the first place, then change their way of life that is our way. expanding and converting the idea of our ways to everyone else is what its all about, and then when a country calls us on our bullshit, we then put them on the terrorist list, shit list (bush’s shit list anyway), and make them look evil just cause they didnt kiss our ass and decide not to waste the lives of their people and resources over our meaningless crusades that our government has made for us.

now on healthcare in this country, whatever system we got, whether its our current one, social, universal, alternative, or whatever crap they’ll come up with, you better belive that you will get the cheapest healthcare that can be provided. the system we got now is absolute shit. yes some would say its better than nothing, and thats true, but things can be a lot better. and it wont get better cause if our healthsystem became about curing the sick and ridding the world of disease instead of a business of making money, then everything would collapse. many would lose jobs, particularly in the healthcare field. and not to mention the big corporations that love those mega profits would fold and cease to exist. its all a business. the government can easily spend billions on aid for AIDs in Africa and can throw away billions of dollars, resources and American lives on some political crusade bullshit thats being done for the “good of Americans”. why cant the government spare a few of those billions to make things better for our country? theres enough money to make every single person on this earth rich, why not make our lives better, turn us into that country we are fabled to be even in our own constitution, and practice what we are preaching, and then it’ll spread and other nations can feel encouraged to do their own thing, not at all necesarily like ours but better their way? why dont we make every american be provided top notch medical care, so that diseases, illness, virus’ can be eliminated so that all can live and die naturally? the answer is so simple, money, and power. the governments only exist to keep people enslaved, to make us need them. cause if there was no war, disease, poverty, etc etc, then we wouldn’t need a government.

wouldn’t be necessary. nothing to police, severe patient shortage, everyones getting a first class education, people are fit, healthy, and happy. this is evil talk here as far as a government is concerned. so the result, the system is fucked up so that we keep giving up our civil rights willingly (as though we actually were truely free, just maybe a longer leash than other countries have) but we keep allowing our government to shorten that leash for us. we’ll end up like the world was portrayed in the movie Demoliton Man. we’d live in a world where it is illegal to eat red meat, do contact sports, smoke, drink beer or any alcohal for that matter, get fined for swearing, no kissing, and NO SEX!!! (nooo!!! anything but that!!!) and the only resturant to eat at is taco bell. (and they dont even serve fucking tacos, not even with maggot infested shit they dug out of a cows ass, cause its illegal) or even worse, we’ll end up like the world is in that movie Equilibriam, with christian bale. if the government found out you showed emotion, cried over a puppy they’d toss your ass in the incinerator. maybe thats the goal. who knows. but back to healthcare again, i happen to know how the system works, and if you think we have a great system, you are definitely naive and have no idea what is it is you’re talking about. my girlfriend is paralyzed from the shoulders down, depends on a vent, and if you think i can go on about this crap, trust me, she can educate you on how the system works. now after this long ass rant about this i may sound like im saying as though people dont get cured, or get better or get refused treatment, cause they do. only those who are fortunate to afford healthcare, or are fortunate to have top of the line insurance are getting the quality the rest of us could envy. the rest of us, may get patched up, but the price is, medical bills plowing through the roof even if we have insurance, it only covers so little, and that adds to the pile of bills that exist already, your not making enough money and have to give up your life working probably two jobs, cause your boss is a dick and wont give you a raise and more hours. its all just screwed up.

Jason

wow thats long! sorry guys, type fast as hell

[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
King Bling wrote:
Its amazing how millions are apparently dieing in africa from starvation, yet somehow they all manage to reproduce like rabbits!

When i here news in africa it’s usually about viloence of some kind and they show some militant armed with ak47s…so they apparently have no food to feed there kids but somehow manage to dig out enough for sub-machine guns…amazaing!!

clearly, the millions upon million of pounds in donations are put to good use.

If all they want to do is kill each other we should just wash our hands of them (at least when it comes to giving aid).

The majority aren’t educated, and there isn’t much to do in terms of entertainment. Can you blame them for enjoying sex? They don’t have a lot going on for them. Plus the rape rate is off the charts.

I don’t know if you’re just acting stupid or you actually are incredibly ignorant. There are militia and corrupt politicians that steal most of the aid and those are the guys with machine guns. What do you think? Every family has a gun? It’s Africa not Texas.

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Very nice post!

I think the US wants to repair its flawed image by acting altruistic. But I don’t think 48billion bucks is that much money, when you consider the US has a GDP of roughly 10trillion or so.
It’s a great thing, nothing to complain about, but a fight against AIDS is a lose lose situation. I don’t think it’s possible to find a cure against this virus in the next 20 years. And teaching ALL Africans to prevent getting AIDS is impossible too. They don’t have the necessary facilities, the infrastructure… heck they don’t even have enough to eat. Would you care if you might get a lethal infection, when you’re quite sure, that you will die tomorrow, because you got nothing to eat?

And to all the people, who think every country should care for themselves: Ever heard of globalization? No country can survive alone anymore. Most industrialized countries depend so much on trade, without it, it wouldn’t be able to provide the known living standard for it’s people. And since we have planes and ships, which can cover great distances, problems are mostly international, not national anymore. And when we don’t help people in their home country, they will bring it to your country. Think of the rosing immigration number etc.