46% of Mississippi Republicans want Interracial Marriage Ban

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.

Of course, none of this excuses what happened in the video or ANY incidents of racism - all are equally to be condemned. But it does explain why the same incident gets different reactions based on who is in what position.[/quote]

bullshit

I hope even someone like you doesn’t believe this huge pile of shit.[/quote]

Thank you for that meaningful post.

One of the problems with race relations in America is that whites are always asking why other races are so oversensitive - yet screaming bullshit whenever someone tries to explain.

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[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.

Of course, none of this excuses what happened in the video or ANY incidents of racism - all are equally to be condemned. But it does explain why the same incident gets different reactions based on who is in what position.[/quote]

I’m not trying to analyze the “whys” of the situation.
It is what it is, I don’t really care why it is less safe for me to hang out in a black neighborhood, I just know that it is and act accordingly.
And if, heaven forbid, situation arises and I need to react forcefully the last thing I’d be thinking of is “why” the shit goes down the way it is.

[/quote]

I was comparing the public perception, as you said.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.

Of course, none of this excuses what happened in the video or ANY incidents of racism - all are equally to be condemned. But it does explain why the same incident gets different reactions based on who is in what position.[/quote]

bullshit

I hope even someone like you doesn’t believe this huge pile of shit.[/quote]

Thank you for that meaningful post.

One of the problems with race relations in America is that whites are always asking why other races are so oversensitive - yet screaming bullshit whenever someone tries to explain. [/quote]

Racism isn’t situational. Listen to yourself, you are trying to “explain” racism.

It isn’t defensible.

By your logic “la Raza” is racist in mexico, but not in the US.

No, the same thing is the same thing. Having a racist employer turn you down for a job doesn’t hurt less if you are white. Ignorance is ignorance. You’re excuses are retarded.

You literally said all should be equally condemned in the same post you tried to explain why they aren’t to make it less bad.

Are you aware that many towns in Mississippi are majority black? Black mayor, black city counsel, est. In that case, white people there should be let off the hook for saying racist things right?

You’re post, your reasoning, and everything about what you said is pure garbage.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.

Of course, none of this excuses what happened in the video or ANY incidents of racism - all are equally to be condemned. But it does explain why the same incident gets different reactions based on who is in what position.[/quote]

I’m not trying to analyze the “whys” of the situation.
It is what it is, I don’t really care why it is less safe for me to hang out in a black neighborhood, I just know that it is and act accordingly.
And if, heaven forbid, situation arises and I need to react forcefully the last thing I’d be thinking of is “why” the shit goes down the way it is.

[/quote]

I was comparing the public perception, as you said.[/quote]

Well yeah, I am the member of the “public” am I not?

Another thing here that plays into public perception of things is that blacks or hispanics just behave more racist than whites en masse, whereas you’d need a fringe skinhead/redneck type-white dude to openly proclaim his racist beliefs and act accordingly.
And when that happens it’s national news.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.

Of course, none of this excuses what happened in the video or ANY incidents of racism - all are equally to be condemned. But it does explain why the same incident gets different reactions based on who is in what position.[/quote]

bullshit

I hope even someone like you doesn’t believe this huge pile of shit.[/quote]

Thank you for that meaningful post.

One of the problems with race relations in America is that whites are always asking why other races are so oversensitive - yet screaming bullshit whenever someone tries to explain. [/quote]

Racism isn’t situational. Listen to yourself, you are trying to “explain” racism.

It isn’t defensible.

By your logic “la Raza” is racist in mexico, but not in the US.

No, the same thing is the same thing. Having a racist employer turn you down for a job doesn’t hurt less if you are white. Ignorance is ignorance. You’re excuses are retarded.

You literally said all should be equally condemned in the same post you tried to explain why they aren’t to make it less bad.

Are you aware that many towns in Mississippi are majority black? Black mayor, black city counsel, est. In that case, white people there should be let off the hook for saying racist things right?

You’re post, your reasoning, and everything about what you said is pure garbage. [/quote]

I really think you purposely read my posts with a heuristic of militancy.

I’m not trying to explain racism. I’m explaining reactions to racism.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

I really think you purposely read my posts with a heuristic of militancy.

I’m not trying to explain racism. I’m explaining reactions to racism. [/quote]

In that case you are just wrong. Pro-chinese people in china isn’t seen as racist, pro-black people in africa isn’t seen as racist, pro hispanic people in mexico isn’t seen as racist. Pro white people anywhere is seen as racist.

Advantages and disadvantages has nothing to do with it anymore. It is a culture based on specifically white guilt, regardless of situation.

And by the way, that isn’t the way your post was written. You wrote saying that the situation made things entirely different and that context was everything. You didn’t mention that what you meant was to speak for public perception. I wouldn’t have used the same language if I’d know that was what you meant.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

I really think you purposely read my posts with a heuristic of militancy.

I’m not trying to explain racism. I’m explaining reactions to racism. [/quote]

In that case you are just wrong. Pro-chinese people in china isn’t seen as racist, pro-black people in africa isn’t seen as racist, pro hispanic people in mexico isn’t seen as racist. Pro white people anywhere is seen as racist.

Advantages and disadvantages has nothing to do with it anymore. It is a culture based on specifically white guilt, regardless of situation.
[/quote]

Are there any other countries where similiar racial inequalities have existed/do exist?

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I dont mean any social or economic inequalities, I mean on the scale we’ve seen in America. For example, have other countries forcably immigrated a large population of another race into their country?

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Just received my new Playboy today, and there was a letter to the editor regarding last months Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the LA Lakers…from a African American lady named Kaneesha Worsham, I quote…

“As an African American women I almost wept reading the Playboy interview with Lamar Odem of the Lakers (February). Once again a prominent black male marries a white women and plunges a dagger of indifference into the hearts of his black sisters. How can he speak with love and sensitivity for his wife while figuratively slapping all black women in the face?”

But the whities in Mississippibanf the Tea Party are the racists? If a white women wrote the same letter would it have been published?[/quote]

The above quote is bat shit crazy. You love who you love. He loves her. He aint slappin all black women in the face. Publish her stupid letter to the editor and send her lonely ass a round-trip ticket to the next black panther rally. Racism is racism. Fuck anyone that harbors that poison. Lonely bitch.[/quote]

Agree, but the difference is this letter was published in a mainstream magazine. And not an eyelash was blinked by anybody.

People LOVE to point out how racist the Tea Party is and Southern whites in general, my point is the same percentage of blacks and latinos are just as racist as their white counterparts. But liberal white guilt keeps the media from treating it in the same manner.[/quote]

They are actually way more racist then whites, partially due to the fact that their racism is being tolerated if not promoted. Compare public perception of “Black Power” or “La Raza” vs. “White Power” for example.

[/quote]

Those sentiments may be the same, in one sense, but entirely different when taken in context.

For example, if I make a “Yo mamma” joke to someone whose mother is alive and well, and is a friend, it is entirely different than making that same joke to a stranger whose mother recently passed away. Same joke, same words, entirely different reaction and meaning.

White people have a lot of advantages in America. Nonwhites have equal disadvantage. So, when whites are faced with isolated incidents of racism, it’s qualitatively different than when nonwhites are faced with similiar incidents. Same with a news broadcaster risking offending whites vs offending nonwhites. The whites generally dont care - because their experience isn’t one that breeds sensitivity on racial matters.
[/quote]

For somebody who seems to be reasonably intelligent…you cannot possibly believe this, can you?

Liberal guilt in this country has somehow convinced people that white people (whose majority is vastly less than it was 3-4 generations ago…and who are now a MINORITY in children under the age of 10)somehow have 2x more advantages than minorities!!!

Are you telling me that white people should just sit back and take racism, because we deserve it? And that it is ok for Blacks and Latinos to be anti bi-racial marriage but not ok for whites?

If that is the case, then you sir are full of a large amount of shit.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I dont mean any social or economic inequalities, I mean on the scale we’ve seen in America. For example, have other countries forcably immigrated a large population of another race into their country? [/quote]

We don’t know how to keep the mexicans out, so clearly this is not the issue.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I dont mean any social or economic inequalities, I mean on the scale we’ve seen in America. For example, have other countries forcably immigrated a large population of another race into their country? [/quote]

Yes. But even that is dumb. What if my ancestors are from a country that didn’t?

What if my ancestors were forcibly integrated here?

But again, none of that has anything to do with one human discriminating against another over race.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Blacks in the delta are much more racist than the whites and in many places are the majority. I’m willing to bet these number against interracial marriage have more to do with the black community than the redneck one.[/quote]

Unsubstantiated claim based on anecdotal evidence. Unless you have some sort of empirical justification for this. I’m not saying there aren’t racist blacks–of course there are. I’m saying that statements like this one shouldn’t be presented as objective truth without data.

As far as the black community being responsible for the numbers in the study: ridiculous when you consider that this study accounted only for Republican primary voters, who are overwhelmingly white.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

For somebody who seems to be reasonably intelligent…
[/quote]

Thank you.

I do. I think you misread me, though.

Whites do have advantages in America.

No. I said every incidence of racism is to be equally condemned.

Not at all. I can understand some frustration with it - but them seeing whites as the enemy only fuels the problem. I mean, look at the video - three black guys jump a white guy for having a black girlfriend… doesnt havent a black girlfriend probably indicate that the guy is NOT a racist, and should be seen as good?

[quote]

If that is the case, then you sir are full of a large amount of shit.[/quote]

I’m glad that isn’t the case, then.

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[quote]ReignIB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I dont mean any social or economic inequalities, I mean on the scale we’ve seen in America. For example, have other countries forcably immigrated a large population of another race into their country? [/quote]

We don’t know how to keep the mexicans out, so clearly this is not the issue.
[/quote]

I’m a bad person. I lol’d.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I dont mean any social or economic inequalities, I mean on the scale we’ve seen in America. For example, have other countries forcably immigrated a large population of another race into their country? [/quote]

Yes. But even that is dumb. What if my ancestors are from a country that didn’t?

What if my ancestors were forcibly integrated here?

But again, none of that has anything to do with one human discriminating against another over race.[/quote]

It does.

People dont get upset about pro-chinese in china because the chinese never forcably immigrated hispanics into their country and set up a system of racial oppression - starting with slavery, moved into ethnocentric legislation, and with remaining vestiges still in operation.

If that did happen, the reaction to the chinese-power radicals would be much different.

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I can tell you whites still have an advantage among whites, I am a white male and have witnessed it first hand , on the other hand I have been to black communities where I was discriminated against. I am sure the Mexicans discriminate against whites but I have never witnessed it. I think they as a race are great people

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Blacks in the delta are much more racist than the whites and in many places are the majority. I’m willing to bet these number against interracial marriage have more to do with the black community than the redneck one.[/quote]

Unsubstantiated claim based on anecdotal evidence. Unless you have some sort of empirical justification for this. I’m not saying there aren’t racist blacks–of course there are. I’m saying that statements like this one shouldn’t be presented as objective truth without data.

As far as the black community being responsible for the numbers in the study: ridiculous when you consider that this study accounted only for Republican primary voters, who are overwhelmingly white.

[/quote]

It’s based on living there and yes, it is a fact. Why aren’t you demanding numbers from people on the other side.

I had an african african friend when I lived there that couldn’t even go on the black side of town.

White people there do not care as much about race as the blacks. Black people are welcome in all the bars and hangouts. Black people can live on the “white” sides of towns. That doesn’t work the other way around.

I’ve heard the same thing from many black people about “thier own” people/culture.

You can deny the reality in the name of your white guilt all you want.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention that the article doesn’t mention how the survey was conducted. Did they walk up to people on the street and ask them? Even if they were polling exiting republican primary voters it’s an open primary state. Additionally, the fact that the article never mentions the democrat side makes it beyond marginally biased.

There is no evidence anywhere in the article that political affiliation affected the numbers.

Because there is no data with which to associate the phenomenon with any party, because no evidence was presented, I naturally disregard party in my analysis the same way I ignored other factors which I have no data for.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I can tell you whites still have an advantage among whites, I am a white male and have witnessed it first hand , on the other hand I have been to black communities where I was discriminated against. I am sure the Mexicans discriminate against whites but I have never witnessed it. I think they as a race are great people[/quote]

No such thing. Only a person can be good or bad.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

I really think you purposely read my posts with a heuristic of militancy.

I’m not trying to explain racism. I’m explaining reactions to racism. [/quote]

In that case you are just wrong. Pro-chinese people in china isn’t seen as racist, pro-black people in africa isn’t seen as racist, pro hispanic people in mexico isn’t seen as racist. Pro white people anywhere is seen as racist.

Advantages and disadvantages has nothing to do with it anymore. It is a culture based on specifically white guilt, regardless of situation.

And by the way, that isn’t the way your post was written. You wrote saying that the situation made things entirely different and that context was everything. You didn’t mention that what you meant was to speak for public perception. I wouldn’t have used the same language if I’d know that was what you meant.
[/quote]

This

White people saying white power automatically makes people think of the kkk or nazis.
Black people saying black power automatically makes people think civil rights.

Just like schools have a gay club amd thats seen as moving forward and being accepting.
Try to make a straight or masculinity club in school and the gay community would go bananas.

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on the whole “white guilt” thing - yeah, slavery is a regrettable part of US’ past.
however the way this whole thing is presented is skewed to say the least.
slavery in Africa and other parts of the world (south america, russia, etc) was alive an well way before it was
established here. it still exists in Africa and some other parts of the world.

and even then, nobody was running around with nets amistad-style trying to catch a slave. slave trade was run by the local tribes, enslaving their “fellow” africans and then selling them to whomever - whites, arabs, other blacks etc.