40+ & Gaining Muscle?

Your lifestyle not your age will dictate the quality of life you can have. I’m 44. The other day a young gal that works with my wife (who also trains and is 44) commented that they could be sisters because they look alike. She actually said older sister by a couple of years. This gal is 25.

When she asked my wife how old she was she was shocked that her own mother is only 3 years older than my wife. We’ve met them and they do not train, they smoke and drink and it shows.

People have commented that they think my kids are my neice and nephew since I can’t be old enough for them to be mine. I take it in stride and keep on keeping on. There is a great future to look forward to, invest in your health as you would expect in finance and you will truly be wealthy.

I’m glad they brought the “over 35 lifter” back. August I’ll be 52 and I’m shooting for a over 50 PR DL in the low 500s. I have some extra LBs don’t much care. I want to be strong. I want to continue to scare the children in the gym. This is an awesome thread. God bless, train hard, and lift heavy.

Good inspiration. Thanks.

I’ll be 57 in a couple of weeks. Currently I’m around 9% bf at 5’7" 163 lbs and I couldn’t give a rats ass anymore about getting big and strong. I am not impressed at all with the old dudes at the gym who dl or squat enormous amounts because almost always they have a gut and obviously pay very little attention to diet.

To me, especially at my age, diet is EVERYTHING, or at least 80-90% of ones training. I eat qualitatively an average of 2000-2200 calories a day, and my journal keeps me honest.

Compared to diet, weight training is a piece of cake, that’s why so few people devote the 80-90% necessary for a terrific lean muscular looking body.

My goals are simple, they include looking amazingly fit without a shirt on. Most older guys who are into powerlifting don’t look like they work out or they look plain fat and never take off their shirt and studies show that it’s plain unhealthy to carry 40+ pounds on a frame meant to carry much less.

My 6pack is almost there and I always shop in the young men’s clothing section. I weight train 4x week and do a minimum of 200 minutes cardio a week. Diet is a 24/7 endeavor.

I am still shocked when I look in the mirror every morning and see a much younger looking, lean muscular man. For overall fitness, I’ll kick the shit out of anyone my age or near it on the basketball court, speed hiking up the Hollywood Hills etc. When I used to be fat and benched 300 lbs people (usually young dudes) always asked how much I benched, but never a mention of how appealing I looked.

Now they never ask how much I bench, they ask how they can look like me. My ultimate goal is 147 totally ripped lbs on my small-medium boned body at 7% bf year-round.

Happy B-day Push!!!

Happy B-day Push. Keep it up. We all enjoy reading about the thrilling adventures of Push. The pics you post aint too bad neither. I’m 45 and this thread rocks!

Yo, Push!

Happy Birthday.
Have fun celebrating, and don’t forget to post pictures.

I’m new to this site and to forum posting in general. It is good to find a group of “Olde Phartz.” I am a retired US Marine currently in Iraq as a contractor teaching senior Iraqi members of the Ministry of Interior how to do strategic planning.

I am a combat veteran of Vietnam (US Army Air Cavalry attack helicopter pilot), Beirut (USMC Cobra Pilot), Desert Storm and East Timor. I am 57 years old and have been lifting weights since I was 14. Weight training and accompanying diet have been my primary “off-duty” activity.

I’ve had to do it in rather challenging locations and situations. Probably the most difficult was in Vietnam 1971-1972. There was no culture of physical training so options were quite limited–but limited to the imagination. Suffice it to say, it is not always necessary to lift barbells and dumbells.

Beirut, and previous deployments on amphibious ships as a Marine were a little bit better. There WAS, and IS a very focused physical training culture in the Marine Corps–even on duty. So we did have some stuff to work with, ranging from a delapidate universal machine in after-vehicle stowage (on the old helicopter carries, that was at the back of the hanger deck). The distracting part of that–they also stowed bags of trash for dumping overboard–trash that included food scraps. Sometimes it got pretty ripe back there, but we pressed on.

In the newer helicopter carriers there was an acclimatization room in the forward part of the ship. This was designed to allow the environment of where ever we were to be landed to be replicated so we could acclimatize. We used it as a very large weightroom though.

At that time, while physical culture was quite big in the USMC, it wasn’t in the Navy so any kind of facility support depended upon the individual ships’ captains. One of the things we used to do was bring our own weights and designate one of the pilot’s state rooms (usually anywhere from 3 to 8 man rooms–tight but much nicer than the berthing compartments the troops had) as the gym.

Now days, though, fitness has been institutionalized in the Navy as well as the USMC. The last ship I was on, 1999, had a world class gym that was open 24 hours.

When I was Commander US Support Group East Timor, one of the first things I did for my troops (Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Marines) was to build and equip a gym. Doing so was rather challenging, both getting the authorization and the funds, then ordering and having the equipment delivered. Once that happened though, thanks to the superb work of Navy Sea Bees, we had our own very functional gym.

Now, on this Forward Operating Base in East Baghdad, we have a superb gym, opened 24 hours a day. It is housed in a building that used to be used by Saddam’s sons for their huge collection of cars. This is primarily and Iron Gym–free weights–but is well organized, set up, professionally run 24 hours a day–and it is airconditioned!!! We’ve come a long way.

I hope I didn’t bore anyone with the history lesson. I intend to post some of the training I’ve done, and its practical–life related results in the future. But, as a tickler, I have been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

The triggering event was a helicopter crash I was in after retiring from the USMC (in Australia, where I was employed by their version of the FAA, with one of my Flying Operations Inspectors) in which the other guy was killed and I was banged up. That combined with having been shot down twice in Vietnam and a subsequent career of high risk work and many very close calls put me in a black hole for several years.

The only thing that kept me going was weight training–the discipline, focus and goal orientation developed over 40 years of effort. I dare say, if it hadn’t been for that and for the pure escape in a good Iron Gym, I probably wouldn’t be here now.

As a postscript to this volume, I have had to grow a moustache here in Iraq–because it is the only gray I have. Iraqis respect age and the appearance of age. They can’t adjust to the optimistic outlook and the muscles and believe they are contained by an “Olde Phart.”
Pardon my long-windedness–future posts will be much more focused and to the point. Thank you.
IronMike 775

To add to my long winded post (IronMike 775), here is a photo taken last week in my “cell” at Forward Operating Base Shield, East Baghdad Iraq.

Ironmike775.

You didn’t bore me with your war and sea stories one bit. Welcome to T-Nation.

I’m one of those Navy types who didn’t work out while I was stationed on board an attack aircraft carrier in the Vietnam War days. Now that I am a retired “Olde Phart,” Navy Captain, I’m very much involved with the iron game. If you have a moment, visit my web site: www.BodyBuildingSenior.com and see what “Old Navy” has been up to.

Good luck with your training and thank you for your service, in theatre, as a civilian.

Sempre Fi & uuuuuurrrrraaaaaaahhhhh!

Ironmike:

That's damn impressive!  When you think about all the poeple you know and all of the excuses you hear and (in my case sometimes come up with myself) for not working out -- it's too hot, too cold, I don't like the machines at my gym, etc.  

Then you look at guys trying to figure out a way to workout in friggin Viet Nam or Iraq, it’s just damn impressive. I also just want to say Thanks to you and all the other guys that are serving our country, keep up the good work.

Thanks guys…Navy I certainly will check your post.
I adopted the following philosophy when I turned 40:
Age is a measure of experience; youth is a state of mind. Never grow old, there is no future in it.

Now–training. I am one of those who has a bit of a problem sticking to a strict routine. I’ve tried internet based routines, spreadsheets that calculate % RM Max (not too difficult to figure out–especially with today’s spreadsheet programs) and a few off-the-wall programs. I’ve also shifted training approaches between bodybuilding, powerlifting and Olympic lifting (recent history only—the first training book I bought, 1964, was “Bodybuilding and Self Defense.” Whole body, 3x a week, 3 sets of 10-12 reps, compound movements). I have finally settled on a scheme that seems to fit my current “lifestyle.” I use a 3x week scheme centered around primary compound movements with added, varied assistance movements.

Day one
Full squats, powerlifing style. Bar low on rear delts (I cannot put the bar across my neck–had a compression fracture out of my first helicopter shoot down/crash–can’t even tolerate a manta-ray), stance slightly wider than shoulder width, toes pointed naturally. Squat full range–on the concentric part, I lead with my hips. This is the most comfortable squat I’ve ever tried. Problems mentioned in parens above kept me from squatting at all until I was taught this move by a power lifter/trainer in Australia.

I warm up progressively, then start my work sets with 5 rep sets and increase the weight 5 kilos until I cannot get 5 (I rest about 60-90 seconds in between, just enough to slow my breathing down). I continue to increase weights with sets of 3 reps. I then go to failure with a single. I do this in a power rack with the bars set so I barely touch them in the full squat position.

When complete, I’m light headed and staggering a bit. Great feeling. My next workout, however, I will shift back to bodybuilding squats to bring rectus femoris more into play. I also plan to try an Olympic-type training movement, squat with the bar overhead–as in the completion of a snatch move.

I follow the squats with smith-machine lunges, no weight, until failure. I then do calves, maybe some wrist work depending upon how much “fuel” I have left.
I rest 1 or two days, depending upon my recovery.

Day 2 centers around clean and jerk.
I start with the full movement, increasing the weight as I go. Again, starting with 5’s. When I can no longer “jerk” overhead, I shift to power cleans–using the same 3 rep scheme as squats. I take that down to failure at 1 rep.

Following that, I go to bench presses in the power rack. Rotator cuff problems preclude heavy full benches so I do a few sets of full benches until my shoulder says stop, then I set the bars to where I can do the bench with pectoral movement, and no shoulder involvement. I borrowed this technique from Pete Sisco’s “My Strength Coach.” Partial range of motion–increase weight to failure.

I then do dips to complete the core part of the workout. Time and energy allowing, I’ll do other assistance movements.

Day three is deadlift day. I will alternate the deadlift range. That is, one workout deadlift from the floor, the next workout I will do partial deadlifts from the rack. Rep scheme and weight progression the same. Back in the US I would floor-deadlift with strict form without straps. Power rack deadlifts were with straps so I could use as much weight as possible. (Here I have to use straps with both as–not having a chiropractor and sleeping where and how I do, I’ve lost grip strength in my right hand due to spinal subluxation.) It was during these partial lifts I would “go into the zone” hard to describe–like going into my own little world,vision narrows, sounds stop, etc. then it all slowly comes back.

After deadlifts I will alternate chin ups with some kind of rowing movement. I will finish off with my neck harness–crucial to keeping my neck strong and aligned.

I am usually pretty well spent at the end of a 3 day training cycle–but it sure feels good.

Cheers & happy training
Mike

Hey Mike, welcome to the forum. Great posts sir!

Thanks guys. I plan to learn from this forum and maybe to contribute. You never can tell where the next little push of motivation might come from. I just got one looking at Old Navy’s site. For those of you who haven’t yet–please do. The “no excuses, just hard work” attitude Old Navy displays should infect us all. We are only as old as we think and act.

Can’t wait for my gym time tomorrow morning.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
throttle132 wrote:
Finally, the over-40 lifter must be careful not to be dominated or
intimidated by the over 40 rhetoric. It is specious, spurious and insidious
with tentacles reaching the subconscious that defeat him before he’s 41."

This same concept is why I don’t believe in trying to get so many people to accept that they are “hardgainers”. If you believe that your gains will come slowly, you will make it happen physically.[/quote]

my dads 49 and making gains.

its not impossible.