Hey guys, quick update on my trials with deca based TRT.
First I want to say I was very hesitant on this, because I’ve used both Deca and Tren in my cycling days, and I think they are the main reason my hormones got screwed up as bad as they did.
I’m looking for libido and ED improvement. That’s my main goal. On trt I’ve been suffering tremendously with low libido. I’m willing to do anything at this point to improve that.
with that said, I just took my 3rd dose this week. I do one shot a week. I’ve been playing with the dosages but I’m keeping them low.
Today I took 90mgs deca/npp mix, 60mg test.
last week I took 120mgs deca/npp, 60mgs test.
I can say that for sure there has been a libido uptick. I’m getting erections randomly at night, and I’m horny on a more consistent basis. Nothing crazy, but definitely a huge improvement. It’s gone on for long enough that I can confirm a change. Now, I hope it gets a little better, but this is more tolerable than I was before.
Hopefully it’s not a honeymoon and it either stays or gets better. But I’m happy to see some hope.
When I took 120mgs last week, it took me back to the cycling days. I think that’s a little too high for me. I don’t want any muscle or strength effects, nor the rage that comes with it. It surprised me how quickly it came. I know the feeling cause I’ve been there many times. So I’m gonna try to keep it on the lower side. So far, I’m seeing positive results. Time will tell if this is a good long term option.
What were you blood panels when you had no libido on test based trt?
I’m willing to wager that in about 6 weeks, your libido will be back in the toilet because you may not be managing your e2 properly. Nandrolone will ramp up the conversion of test into E2, which is secondarily great for your hairline, but horrible on drive.
Why not just take deca? npp will add spiking and fluctuation in mood and erectile dysfunction if you pin once a week. Moreover both npp and deca will have the same effect, so a mix of them doesn’t offer anything more than deca by itself would.
You can pin deca and npp, npp only last 3-4 days in the deca while the deca will continuously build and be long lasting around week 6. I have the same libido issues with deca, I take .5mg cialis or pop a viagra 50 when it’s time to handle that type of business. I’d run some proviron with it to help with mood and lethargy.
Can I ask about this. I added deca 100mg to my cruise of 250test e week and I’m on my second week and I’ve already had to up my blocker from .5 twice a week to x 3 a week. I started getting hot flashy. Should I just drop the test a bit?
I have never done anything like this. When I used to juice for lifting, I would have laughed at 90mgs deca and 60mgs test. But I been running that for 3 weeks, taking my 4th dose right now and I can tell you I’m feeling a lot from those low doses.
to the point where I think I can lower deca a bit more. Goes to show, that 300mgs and up is overkill. That’s what I was taking when I was younger.
I’m definitely feeling some more strength in the gym. It’s wild on such a low dose.
Personal experience, deca secondary effect on the joints works at 50mg - 100mg. Felt slight effects from higher red blood count perhaps at 200 mg on cardio. That’s its own issue. 300 mg started some of the benefits on a blast, but would run higher (old days for me). I use it when cruise at low dose for joints. Love it. I always found the test ratio was the key for libido. Let me know not only the libido, but overall in that area in a while. Never thought a ratio like that could work
A lot of times on cruise I would take test and prim (love prim so much, but thins my hair). To me, those pretty much equally add to the ratio. Of course, adding other stuff really adds to the ratio. But lots of just test and deca (due to paranoia of hair thin). I always tried to keep the ratio 2 test to one deca. Like 200 to 100. Or on lower cruise, 125-50 to 50. Honestly, I feel like you get a lot of benefits on low deca. I had one deca dick issue on it and it was terrible. It isn’t simple, because to me, that issue isn’t simply correlated with e2 levels. Deca has a strong libido effect on me, but it can cause issues other than just how you fell (libido) in that department. And that issue crept on me. Sorry, I can’t recall your earliest posts, when you had libido issues on test, was your e2 right? I also think folks are different so got to find what works for you.
test just doesn’t do anything to me honestly in the libido/ED department.
deca right now is giving me good libido. I still have to use PDE5s no matter what, I feel like I’m damaged permanently but with this libido surge on deca, PDE5s work great. And that’s the only thing I can ask for at this point.
hopefully I can use this to live a normal lifestyle. At the end of the day, once you’re over 40, libido and ED happen naturally, gradually. So I’m fine with managing it this way. It’s been really nice to feel and increase in libido.
my goal is to use the least amount of compounds possible. So keeping the dose low is nice.
Yeah, I’m about to hit 50. Deca always made my libido almost out of control. But high test does too - my wife always knows when I’m on the higher side… I also just love Viagra. Everybody is different and glad you found something working for you. Just monitor if you keep the good libido but then start experiencing issues where while libido is high, it just ain’t working…. That is what deca can do to me. Deca stays in you forever, so if an issue does pop up, just go with a plan and give it time. It remind me of a post of somebody taking aromasin to try to fix something quickly and creating a whole different problem.
Glad to hear it! Shit, I can barely walk around target without my head turning non-stop when I run deca higher. It was just over time it led to still high libido with weak limp dick even on Viagra. To me, that is the sign to watch out for on that ratio deca, not the libido per se. And if that happens, it took me say 4-5 weeks to resolve it. Everybody is different for sure.
Just libido and ed improvement ??? If you can’t get hard or stay hard on test and cialis your pretty much done for . Deca made me horny as hell. So did Masteron . I never had any mental stuff go on with deca like everyone says . There’s always pt141…