3rd Cycle, Looking for Advice

Pharma / TRT
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Hey everyone,

This is my third cycle and I am 24, 5’11 and 213lbs, I have a question here, let me layout my cycle however.

18 week bulk cycle

(first 6 weeks)
adrol 100mg ed (weeks 1 through 4)
dostinex 0.5mg ed
arimidex 1mg ed
650mg test e
500mg eq

(second 6 weeks)
dostinex 0.5mg ed
arimidex 1mg ed
500mg deca
650 test e

(last 6 weeks)
dostinex 0.5mg ed
arimidex 1mg ed
adrol 100mg ed (weeks 13 - 16)
650test e
500mg eq

Many people think this is a high dose of Adex, but I’ve personally developed
a lump before on a test only cycle with a higher test dose and experimented and
found 1mg a day to be the perfect spot in terms of that.

My question is, should I run test e, eq and deca all at the same time throughout the entire
cycle? I figured in order to keep switching compounds and giving the receptors time to clean out from one compound it would be more effective doing it the way I’m doing it, could be wrong though. I have also heard it takes a while for EQ to really work well, however.

I am currently running a joint support supplement, AI’s Cycle Support, Liver Juice (500mg milk thistle a day), Liver Longer, Grape Seed Extract, and Potassium.

It may seem like a lot of liver protection, but with Anadrol I’d rather be safe then sorry.

For PCT which has always worked before, I am going to spend 4 weeks doing 40/40/20/20 nolva, a cortisol blocker, mass fx, and AX advanced pct, along with AI cycle support.

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swapping out eq and deca every six weeks is a horrendous plan.

Whats your reason for running dostinex while not running deca?

While I dont particularly like the way the cycle is set up at all, if I HAD to choose between the options you presented Id choose running all 3 over rotating anabolics.

But that’s like asking to choose between being slapped in the face with horse shit one time or having to sit in a closed warm room filled with horse for hours.

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Yeah, why are you switching it up like that? No way would I run deca for 18 weeks, so if you’re going to alter the 3 compound plan (which is the best option you mentioned), then run test and EQ for the whole duration, and have deca in there for the first 8-10 weeks if you really want to use it.

18 weeks of deca…wow, have a fun recovery. If you know what you need in terms of AI dose, then there is no questioning it. IMO the dostinex is a little on the heavy side. 0.5 mg EOD until you drop the drol, then 0.5 mg E3D for a couple weeks past dropping the deca should be ok, but monitor it and adjust accordingly if needed.

I guess your PCT plan is fine, but for an 18 weeker, you might want to beef it up or lay a better foundation for recovery by adding in a little HCG during your cycle.

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Thanks for the reply I read that Adrol has progesterone increase similar to deca, unless that’s incorrect?

Also, would you recommend running all 3 at those doseages or at a different dose?

thanks

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From what you’re planning to do, I would cut the cycle to 16 weeks. Test anywhere from 600-750, Eq 500-600, and the deca probably about 400-500. The drol is fine at 100 mg ED but you might want to drop it to 75. More is more with drol. More dose means more gains (up to about 100 mg ED then it seems to not make too much diff), but also more sides.

75 is a good solid dose. Seeing that you’re 24, you likely want to recover between cycles, so I would consider dropping the deca altogether, cutting the cycle to 12 weeks, run EQ and test, and cycle in orals weeks 1-4, 8-11 type thing. But it’s your choice.

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Dostinex is a dopamine agonist. It is used to lower prolactin levels. Nandrolone causes prolactin to rise in some (many?, most??) people. To my knowledge, anadrol does not elevate prolactin.

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[quote]juice20jd wrote:
I would consider dropping the deca altogether, cutting the cycle to 12 weeks, run EQ and test, and cycle in orals weeks 1-4, 8-11 type thing. But it’s your choice.[/quote]

This is the better of all the options mentioned. IMO

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If you have your heart set on a much longer cycle, I have seen the following general outline recommended:

Pre cycle: Prime, to ensure you can hit a large calorie surplus when you begin your cycle and shuttle towards muscle favorable before fat

Week 1-7: Test, dbol for a few weeks, other shorter estered substances, perhaps deca phenylprop?
Weeks 8-11: Lower all substances so you’re on around 200mg test per week only and use this for a bit of fat loss / re-prime
Weeks 12-18: Hit the cycle harder again with heavier androgens, such as tren, test, perhaps some winstrol for the last few weeks

Else, do the cycle mentioned in the post above for 12 weeks.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Dostinex is a dopamine agonist. It is used to lower prolactin levels. Nandrolone causes prolactin to rise in some (many?, most??) people. To my knowledge, anadrol does not elevate prolactin. [/quote]

Yeah, as far as I know, drol carries some progesterone effects, which may or may not cause elevated prolactin. Not sure if there is a definite answer for that, since drol likely causes it’s side effects directly at the estrogen receptor. Better safe than sorry IMO and cover both with AI protection and prolactin control. Deca for sure needs some Prolactin control if you’re going to run it for an extended period. As you mentioned though, it seems to be a very individual tolerance type thing.