3 Years Progress

[quote]Mr. AWEstomy wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:
I have been carb cycling so ‘high’ carb day when I train legs or back, moderate for arms, shoulders and chest and low carb for days off. Last weeks carbs looked like this:
High - 175g
Moderate - 135g
Low - 40g

Nowhere near the likes of Trent or Tim McBride but I am of the camp where I am quite happy with lower overall carbs and lower overall activity.[/quote]

How many carbs when trying to gain? And do you still use back loading then?
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Well on my last gaining phase I went as high as 500-600g carbs a day… And got fat! I was still trying to use a back-loading approach but eventually I had to have carbs spread out across the day due to the sheer volume of food it took to get them all in.

This next gaining phase I will take a much steadier approach. I will continue with carb back loading but also add in carbs pre and intra workout and see how that goes.

[quote]Yogi wrote:
This is a cool thread, very interesting when a big dude like yourself takes the time really explain his evolution.

Also cool how different people’s approaches can be. Like what you said about your protein intake. Personally anything above 200g for me is a waste, but I need to keep my calories increasing as I get bigger. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever need more than 200g of protein a day, but those calories keep needing to creep up.[/quote]

Thanks for checking in!

You are one of the lucky ones my friend. Protein ain’t cheap!!

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
This is a cool thread, very interesting when a big dude like yourself takes the time really explain his evolution.

Also cool how different people’s approaches can be. Like what you said about your protein intake. Personally anything above 200g for me is a waste, but I need to keep my calories increasing as I get bigger. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever need more than 200g of protein a day, but those calories keep needing to creep up.[/quote]

Thanks for checking in!

You are one of the lucky ones my friend. Protein ain’t cheap!![/quote]

No it certainly isn’t. I buy packs of frying steak from Tesco. You get like 500g for £3. Put some sriracha on there and it does the job.

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
This is a cool thread, very interesting when a big dude like yourself takes the time really explain his evolution.

Also cool how different people’s approaches can be. Like what you said about your protein intake. Personally anything above 200g for me is a waste, but I need to keep my calories increasing as I get bigger. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever need more than 200g of protein a day, but those calories keep needing to creep up.[/quote]

Thanks for checking in!

You are one of the lucky ones my friend. Protein ain’t cheap!![/quote]

No it certainly isn’t. I buy packs of frying steak from Tesco. You get like 500g for Ã?£3. Put some sriracha on there and it does the job.
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Thanks, I may have to try that I didn’t know they did it so cheap. Does it fry ok? I’ve had some similar stuff in the past but the quality wasn’t very good and it was like chewing an old boot!

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
This is a cool thread, very interesting when a big dude like yourself takes the time really explain his evolution.

Also cool how different people’s approaches can be. Like what you said about your protein intake. Personally anything above 200g for me is a waste, but I need to keep my calories increasing as I get bigger. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever need more than 200g of protein a day, but those calories keep needing to creep up.[/quote]

Thanks for checking in!

You are one of the lucky ones my friend. Protein ain’t cheap!![/quote]

No it certainly isn’t. I buy packs of frying steak from Tesco. You get like 500g for Ã??Ã?£3. Put some sriracha on there and it does the job.
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Thanks, I may have to try that I didn’t know they did it so cheap. Does it fry ok? I’ve had some similar stuff in the past but the quality wasn’t very good and it was like chewing an old boot!
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old boot is actually probably being kind! It’s tough, flavourless and really not very good at all. It’s never going to be a treat, but you can have it ready in like 3 minutes and just choke it down. Sometimes hitting your macros is more important than flavour.

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
This is a cool thread, very interesting when a big dude like yourself takes the time really explain his evolution.

Also cool how different people’s approaches can be. Like what you said about your protein intake. Personally anything above 200g for me is a waste, but I need to keep my calories increasing as I get bigger. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever need more than 200g of protein a day, but those calories keep needing to creep up.[/quote]

Thanks for checking in!

You are one of the lucky ones my friend. Protein ain’t cheap!![/quote]

No it certainly isn’t. I buy packs of frying steak from Tesco. You get like 500g for Ã???Ã??Ã?£3. Put some sriracha on there and it does the job.
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Thanks, I may have to try that I didn’t know they did it so cheap. Does it fry ok? I’ve had some similar stuff in the past but the quality wasn’t very good and it was like chewing an old boot!
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old boot is actually probably being kind! It’s tough, flavourless and really not very good at all. It’s never going to be a treat, but you can have it ready in like 3 minutes and just choke it down. Sometimes hitting your macros is more important than flavour.[/quote]

Still sounds good for the price! I had some beef steak meat that was meant for stews and stews only! However I didn’t know that and fried it and spent the next two hours (not actually exaggerating too much either) choking down 500g of steak!

Have you heard of meatmaster? Not sure if its a chain or just local to me but they do the best stuff for the best price anywhere I’ve found.

[quote]lemony2j wrote:
To give my training history a brief outline it would look like this:

Year 1) Full-body workout every other day. Skimming over legs and delts, bi?s and tri?s getting more than their fair share of attention 

Year 2) Switched to a body-part split. Really pushing the volume but lacking in intensity. Sometimes hammering out 30-40 sets per body part and going 10-14 days without a rest day. Regularly found myself run-down and feeling terrible.

Year 3) Tried out my own version of 5/3/1 while also incorporating some of CT?s Wave-loading schemes: 7/5/3 etc.

Year 4) Started to figure out what was working for me and went back to a bodypart split. Experimented with training a muscle group twice a week.

Year 5) (Current) Tried a mountain-dog style of training, still throwing in the odd heavy set but not overly concerned with 1rm strength.

I feel it?s worth saying that at each phase in my training I felt like what I was doing what was the right thing to do and was working but now I have the pleasure of hindsight I can see that that wasn?t so.

I don?t think enough can be said for INTENSITY. I feel like now if I only had 10 minutes in the gym for whatever reason that I could train a muscle and provide enough stimulus for growth. I used to discredit HIT style training a la Dorian Yates and co as I just couldn?t get my head round training with such low volume. Since I learned to ramp up intensity and frequency and reduce volume I can definitely see how that would work.

Another revelation in the past couple of years was to train by actually targeting a particular muscle and not just going through the motions working a certain movement. A lot of John Meadows? techniques have helped a lot with this. I think now, it?s important to create a lot of pain (good pain- think lactic acid) within the muscle being trained. I used to stop when it became painful or the pump got too much but I now make a big effort to see how much pain I can create and endure. Not a huge necessity for some muscle groups but certain muscles, calves for instance, and legs in general, I think this is imperative.

Training for strength did nothing for me. I?m sure it benefitted me somehow but I don?t feel it contributed to hypertrophy at all FOR ME. All it did was beat up my joints. This is not to say it wouldn?t for anyone else. I?ve heard it said that to train like a bodybuilder means getting stronger just in a higher rep range and I agree with this. I do however think that training anywhere under 5 reps for hypertrophy is useless. I now look at it more In terms of tension produced and TUT.

I noticed a massive change when I started to focus on my diet and take it seriously. I don?t think enough can be said for the importance of a well balanced consistent diet. And when I finally started counting cals/macro?s things got a whole lot easier! It is still a constant work in progress but having it all there in black and white allows you to manipulate things without much effort.

Carb back-loading works. For me anyway. I have seen a much more favourable body composition since employing this method of dieting. It makes perfect sense to me now to only consume carbs when their needed and makes the body search for an alternative energy source (adipose) when there isn?t an abundance of the usual energy source (glucose).

Protein intake ? I know this can be highly subjective but I?ve found that I gain better on a higher protein intake. Sounds like common sense but I was aiming for ~250g protein/day for a long time. It was only when increasing this to ~300g/day that I noticed a definite increase in lbm. I will keep this in mind and possibly increase again the next time I feel a plateau creeping in.

Supplements ? I just stick with the basics. I?ve tried all the funky supps but I think there is a LOT of money that can be spent on that cr@p and all you really need is a good source of whey, bcaa?s and occasional creatine. Still not decided how I personally respond to intra-workout supps but have experimented. In the following off-season I?ll be trying a dextrose/bcaa combination and seeing how I react.

That?s all I can think of for now. Apologies for the lack of structure, these are just tid-bits that I?ve typed as I thought of. I still have a LOT to learn and as my body continues to adapt, so must my methodologies. Please keep in mind, all of the above is what works for ME and I?ve come to these conclusions through trial and error.

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thanks for sharing.