3 Year Old Run Over In China

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

Working in a hospital has changed the way I look at life for sure. I’m not sure how it will affect me down the road. I’ve seen and heard things in the last year that I wish I hadn’t but it’s part of the job, I have to desensitize myself to get the job done. I want it to affect me so I can count my blessings but at the same time it’s gut wrenching to see it everyday pretty much. One day I can work in ER witnessing horrendous trauma, sometimes last breaths literally and the next day I can be in birthing and hear tremendous joy and new life coming into the world, it’s fucked up.

I won’t watch the video of the young child getting run over but I did watch the footage of the Indy car driver crash.

I knew he died before I watched the footage but I watched it anyway. Why one and not the other?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Man, I barely batted eyelash from watching that video. I’ve become so desensitized to this stuff, that nothing on the internet shocks me anymore.[/quote]

I watched a beheading a few years back and that was enough for me. A fucking kitchen knife? I was expecting a humoungous sword or something, not the same kind of knife I used lastnight to carve a roast.

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I fucking hate driving in China town I will say that. It’s absolutely insane. Parking lots are a deadly free for all, no flow of traffic at all. And you don’t know who knows karate but sometimes you just want to grab those little fuckers by the neck and swing them around.

It’s not just in a car either, they walk around like that too. I thought it was because I’m white in their little corner of Houston for a cheap lunch. Now that I know it’s cultural I suppose I’ll just let them move around me. Should be fun.

You’re in the US now you little motherfuckers. Just because the road sign is in English and also whatever fucking dialect doesn’t mean you own this fucking street. You sons-of-bitches came here because your lives sucked elsewhere, don’t fuck it up again and drag me in to it.

/rant

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

I agree. The brain and human psyche in general are like a sponge. A sponge will soak up whatever liquid it is placed in, it will let that liquid out too.

We do of course have the choice as freethinkers to filter whatever we want in action, but why put certain thoughts in your head, even if you don’t act on them?

It’s just not necessary to clog your “sponge” with piss and vinegar.

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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/04/dozens-ignore-dying-man-credited-with-stopping-an-nyc-mugging/1

Where’s your false sense of superiority now?

This isn’t just cultural in China. This kind of apathy is everywhere.

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[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/04/dozens-ignore-dying-man-credited-with-stopping-an-nyc-mugging/1

Where’s your false sense of superiority now?

This isn’t just cultural in China. This kind of apathy is everywhere.[/quote]

It’s still intact.

Big differences here. for one, the man just tried to help someone else…which already goes against a society where NO ONE is helping anyone else at all. Second, the passersby saw no blood. the fire fighters didn’t even see blood until they rolled him over. This is also New York…so a man drunk on a sidewalk passed out isn’t uncommon.

Yeah, I do fault people for ignoring others in need of help, but the truth is, since none of those people saw the crime and they saw no blood, he could have been asleep for all they knew.

Big difference between that and watching someone die.

Also, don’t get me wrong, apathy IS growing everywhere. That video with the pizza place where no one helped out as a guy want berserk in Chicago stands out in my mind. Yeah, that sucked too.

But when I see that many cars acting like no one else matters on a road and this is a constant problem, I am going to point at it and say, “damn, we may be bad, but that shit is fucking ridiculous”.

We all suck for allowing that.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

EXACTLY.

I wrote a blog entry few months ago exactly about this. Absorbing negative thoughts, even if distant, like TV shows, can have negative effects in our mood. It’s the same reason as why you shouldn’t associate with negative people because you end absorbing all this negativity.

As for newspapers, do people really need to read the morbid section of the newspapers? “The victim was stabbed 60 times and the blood was covering the entire floor when the police found the corpse. The murderer had previously tried to chop off his arm with an axe, but bla bla bla”.

This is terrible for your mind in the long run. This is just an example, but you can expand this to TV shows and movies. House MD can be a great show, but it’s pure negativity. I only watched a few episodes and I totally refuse to watch more. Totally saddening material.

I close newspapers if I see titles like “Greece may default, Europe in danger” or similar like that because they give me nothing good and they just make me worry about the future.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

While I do agree with you to a certain extent, what you are doing is the same thing that the bystanders at the scene were doing, only you have a option of watching this while they didn’t. They were simply doing the logical thing to avoid overwhelm themselves when they are busy and see terrible shit happening everyday.

I don’t understand the bad Asian driver stereotype. You try driving in China; good luck even leaving your own front door. It’s not about bad driving skills, rather that pedestrians have much less rights and are expected to yield to traffic rather than the other way around.

In any place that is very crowded and full of busy people, you expect people to drive recklessly and feel that people on the streets are unfriendly. Just take a look at New York City.

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I only watched 30 seconds of it, I’ve just felt sad for humanity over the past couple of days since…

The thing that gets me is that with this situation, and lots of other similar ones: HOW DO SO MANY PEOPLE WALK BY WITHOUT HELPING?

There has been many many different psychology experiments that show only 1 in 30 people (roughly) will help someone who could be dying in the middle of the sreet. That is 3%, that means 97% of people will just walk by and let you die.

It’s just beyond belief. Was I so naive to think that the majority of people are actually good hearted?

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[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
I only watched 30 seconds of it, I’ve just felt sad for humanity over the past couple of days since…

The thing that gets me is that with this situation, and lots of other similar ones: HOW DO SO MANY PEOPLE WALK BY WITHOUT HELPING?

There has been many many different psychology experiments that show only 1 in 30 people (roughly) will help someone who could be dying in the middle of the sreet. That is 3%, that means 97% of people will just walk by and let you die.

It’s just beyond belief. Was I so naive to think that the majority of people are actually good hearted?[/quote]

Few years ago, in my city, in a very popular (and crowded) coffee place, a girl was beaten up by her ex-boyfriend in public. Around 100 witnesses, no one did a thing.

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On the flip side, the video a few weeks back of the dozen or so people flipping the car off a pinned motorcyclist was fairly awesome. That is, the act of getting involved to help, not the media spin that it took some off the charts level of strength.

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^ That was cool to see. News channels should have “happy hours” in my opinion. Lots of good shit happens out there.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

buddhists and current psychology would certainly agree

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[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

While I do agree with you to a certain extent, what you are doing is the same thing that the bystanders at the scene were doing, only you have a option of watching this while they didn’t. They were simply doing the logical thing to avoid overwhelm themselves when they are busy and see terrible shit happening everyday.

I don’t understand the bad Asian driver stereotype. You try driving in China; good luck even leaving your own front door. It’s not about bad driving skills, rather that pedestrians have much less rights and are expected to yield to traffic rather than the other way around.

In any place that is very crowded and full of busy people, you expect people to drive recklessly and feel that people on the streets are unfriendly. Just take a look at New York City. [/quote]

having lived in korea, pedestrians have right of way in a lot of situations you wouldnt expect and no right in situations you would. in certain crowded areas, cars are fucked. people just walk in front of them and they will be sat waiting forever. in others, cars run red lights and go while people are still on the crosswalk. but overall, their sense of awareness and consideration for strangers is MUCH less than most ‘western’ countries. cars drive all over the lanes without due care and attention. people, especially kids, have very little awareness of the dangers of playing in the road. motorcycles drive quite recklessly on sidewalks. people rarely hold doors open for each other and often bump and shove each other without even acknowledging it. subway etiquette is often quite frustrating for foreigners, especially when it comes to getting on an off. how hard is it really to wait for people to get off and then get on? apparently too hard for most koreans.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just something to point out that I rarely do…but I truly believe you should be careful what you let in your head.

I quit watching a lot of tv after 9/11. It was like a reflex action after being exposed to so much negative shit for months on end and replays of the same incident.

That shit affects you whether you realize it or not. It isn’t just about desensitization, but also mood, mental state and eventually decisions you make in the long run. These are all based on the total experiences in your life and all of the images you have been exposed to.

People who sit and watch beheadings over and over or baby killings may not realize that until later on…but I would bet money on this having effects on anxiety levels and even depression as you get older.

Watch what you watch.[/quote]

My friend had a strong obsession with watching that kind of stuff, and I’m fairly certain it was a relatively strong factor in him eventually ending his life at 24 years of age.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Man, I barely batted eyelash from watching that video. I’ve become so desensitized to this stuff, that nothing on the internet shocks me anymore.[/quote]

I watched a beheading a few years back and that was enough for me. A fucking kitchen knife? I was expecting a humoungous sword or something, not the same kind of knife I used lastnight to carve a roast. [/quote]

And then there were the sounds…

Those got to me.

Interestingly enough, that video did not scare me.

It made me very, very angry.

Which is probably not the intended effect of terrorism.

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Where I am living school kids walk out in front of cars on purpose to get money from the insurance settlement. My wife hears them discussing it at school, all excited about what they are going to buy, or sometimes, bummed out because their parent/guardian is taking most of it. What is interesting about this is that they are valuing their lives by how much they can make from potentially getting themselves killed or worse.

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Where I am living school kids walk out in front of cars on purpose to get money from the insurance settlement. My wife hears them discussing it at school, all excited about what they are going to buy, or sometimes, bummed out because their parent/guardian is taking most of it. What is interesting about this is that they are valuing their lives by how much they can make from potentially getting themselves killed or worse.[/quote]

I thought I was a cynical bastard, but my jaw actually dropped when I read this. Holy SHIT.

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[quote]Johnny T Frisk wrote:
That was fucked up but thats one tough little kid to survive all that although I have no idea how bad off the kid is since I don’t understand a word they’re saying. The other thing that is fucked up is that you can post that kind of video on youtube but some tits will get banned.[/quote]

That’s something i’ll never understand about this country.

The naked human body = Bad.

Violence = Ok.

The beauty and ugliness is where you look for it. I’ll stick to looking at naked women.

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The whole article is interesting, here is the best part:

"All of this was caught on surveillance cameras. A clip was posted on China?s popular micro blog, Sina Weibo on Sunday, generating a huge outcry as netizens counted the number of people who glanced at the girl and ignored her plight ? all in the seven minutes she lay on the road until the Good Samaritan carried her to safety.

The story, which has been a leading headline on all of China?s news sites, touched a nerve in the country, with many decrying the lack of moral standards and general disregard for fellow human beings.

One report quoted the first driver as saying, ?If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,125). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands yuan."

Some news reports and online discussions made the point that civil behavior is not always rewarded in China. Many people fear they?re being subject to some sort of scam while others remember still a well-known case from 2006, when a man helped a woman who had fallen only to have her accuse him of causing the injury to begin with. She filed a suit against him, in which the judge ruled the man wouldn?t have come to her aid had he not caused the fall.
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State-run news agency Xinhua has reported both drivers of the vehicles that ran over the girl have been apprehended by police.

Yueyue, meanwhile, is in critical condition with serious brain injuries, breathing with the help of a ventilator. Her parents are asking eyewitnesses to come forward with any additional information.

The story of Yueyue?s hit-and-run stands in stark contrast to another story that picked up steam online over the weekend.

Last Friday afternoon, a woman fell into a scenic tourist lake in Hangzhou, the capital of the eastern province of Zhejiang. A Western woman who was walking by saw the Chinese woman struggling and quickly jumped into West Lake to save her.

After swimming back to shore, the foreigner dragged her onto the bank. The victim remained conscious and appeared out of danger. Police turned up ten minutes later, and the Western woman left quietly. Several websites reported she was American.

What was notable in this instance was the response of those who read the story online.

In addition to giving the rescuer high praise (?That American girl is great, she has a beautiful character?), people also made unfavorable comparisons to Chinese behavior:

?According to Chinese laws and regulations, if she hadn?t pushed the girl into the water, why ever would she save her??

Thanks to China Digital Times for the translations."

Finally American’s look good overseas!