alright im 3 weeks into my fist cycle. before this i did 7 weeks of winny and felt pretty good. decent amount of energy and pretty motivated. after that 7 weeks i hopped on 500mg of test e per week. i am 3 weeks into that and i feel like shit. im not motivated at all, im tired as hell i dont want to really do anything…
my diet is good realy lean meats fish, chicken ect. 2500-3k cal per day. 200g+ of protein. good amount of carbs. i get pretty good sleep. in bed at 9 up at 530
has anyone gone through this before? i need some serious help here. i may just come off if it and rethink all of this. this blows, i thought i would have some pretty damn good energy and motivation by now. seriously anything will help.
Because you ran winny for seven weeks, shut down your HPTA, stopped taking the winny and hopped on test and now the test is taking time to build up in your body and also winny does not aromatize.
So by shutting your natural production down you have no test to aromatize into estrogen.
Should of done your research first. I guess I’ll add this too just in case but you will need a pct as well
yes I am taking an ai…liquidex and damn that’s what I figured about the winny…buds do you think it will just take some time to pull out of it? should I stop or take a break?
You could stop and then do a pct to recover or continue on with the test. Me personally I would drop the AI for a few weeks and run the test then start the AI again.
You feel like shit because your shut down and have nothing to aromatize into estrogen.
BUDs I have only taken the AI a couple of times though…because I did not start it until doing the test which was 2.5 weeks ago. I then started the AI in my second week. would your suggestion be to still stop the ai and run the test and just push through as much as possible? I literally walked into the gym and walked out last night…it was embarrassing…or you think I should save what I have a pick it back up after the PCT?
BUDs…It doesn’t seem, but maybe I am wrong, that a week and a half of the AI would effect me in that type of way. So would your suggestion be just to push through, stop the AI or since im only into my 3rd week start my pct then pick it back up after that? I literally walked into the gym and walked out last night…it was embarrassing to say the least…just don’t want to completely ruin this cycle by being tired and non motivated all the time. I have also been going hard for 3.5 months straight no break so im sure that is workin in there as well.
I think your missing the point of an AI. The AI stops the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. Since you ran winny alone, which will shut your natural production down and will not aromatize and then ran it with no test base, you have nothing to convert to E, therefore the use of an AI is pointless at the moment. In my opinion Your symptoms are the symptoms of low E2 and being shut down. You can get bloodwork to confirm this.
So it’s not the AI that’s effecting you. What I would do is continue with the test and stop the AI for a few weeks, then when you start feeling better start the AI. Or continue with the test and AI at .25mg EOD and you should start feeling back to normal so to speak in a matter of time. Or stop and do a pct.
ok great thank you for the help on this…this makes a lot of sense now…just have to figure out what I want to do. cause right now it means only making it into the gym every other day max because im so damn tired
Just take 3-5 days off. Should be starting feel better plus you have been going “hard” for 3.5 months a good few recovery days will honestly do you more good than harm at this point.
[quote]Batman00 wrote:
Props to Reed and BUDs they are the new badasses in the forum. Lay it down my brothers. [/quote]
…and props to the op for his question.
we’ll be sending him a twelve month subscription to Muscle & Kindergarten for not memorizing the stickies and ignoring Mr.Walkway’s response to his prior post.
“winny is garbage.” do you remember this post:
that’s my .02 look for your first magazine to arrive in february
[quote]Batman00 wrote:
Props to Reed and BUDs they are the new badasses in the forum. Lay it down my brothers. [/quote]
…and props to the op for his question.
we’ll be sending him a twelve month subscription to Muscle & Kindergarten for not memorizing the stickies and ignoring Mr.Walkway’s response to his prior post.
“winny is garbage.” do you remember this post:
that’s my .02 look for your first magazine to arrive in february
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[quote]Batman00 wrote:
Props to Reed and BUDs they are the new badasses in the forum. Lay it down my brothers. [/quote]
…and props to the op for his question.
we’ll be sending him a twelve month subscription to Muscle & Kindergarten for not memorizing the stickies and ignoring Mr.Walkway’s response to his prior post.
[quote]Batman00 wrote:
Props to Reed and BUDs they are the new badasses in the forum. Lay it down my brothers. [/quote]
…and props to the op for his question.
we’ll be sending him a twelve month subscription to Muscle & Kindergarten for not memorizing the stickies and ignoring Mr.Walkway’s response to his prior post.
“winny is garbage.” do you remember this post:
that’s my .02 look for your first magazine to arrive in february
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Who is this fucking wizard?
Oh that’s right it’s Dr. Forum Finder.
How do you know the OP is not a woman?
And honestly I didn’t read the post I just know Reed and BUDS are gettin’ around. And Dr. Forum Finder is sponsored by SubQ.com.
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…talkin to nvcballr. he’s posted same questions before (click link if you have doubts, that’s why it’s there. you know to click on. kinda like a reference. to click on.)
most women don’t take 500mg/week. unless they want clitoral growth. female bodybuilders that are on t don’t have trouble achieving orgasm because of that.
