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[quote]Deadsion wrote:
Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
im not gonna lie, i had tears in my eyes watching that video, I couldnt even watch past the first 30 seconds. Personally, I would do the same thing that Clyde did in the law abiding citizen, tie them up and sever their limbs one by one. And I wanna do the same thing, if not worse, to parents who think their precious kids are innocent and the mothers who want to make sure their kids are being treated well in prison.

seriously you are going to have to explain your reasoning on this. since these sick fucks did some sick shit, you in turn want to make a sick fuck out of yourself by mutilating them… and their families?

I believe in an eye for an eye. Just imagine if that guy was your brother, dad, son, friend, and three spoiled rich kids killed him for fun. And then, because of the parents that spoiled them, instead of getting either capital punishment (come on, im from texas) or at least hard labor in life imprisonment, its being made sure that their “stay” at prison is comfortable. And their parents go as far as to say that their children are being framed, despite the numerous videos that show their kids killing people and animals. I’m a very vengeful person, but that’s why anyone who knows me would think a million times before fucking with me or my family.

i too believe in a form of eye for an eye, when it comes to personal life. if someone hits me in a bar, im going to make it so that he cant hit me again. that said when it comes to a goverenment punishment, torture is simply out of the question; and this isnt stemming from some fairy tale pretend rights shit. this is just what seperates us from the sociopaths (which many of you are exhibiting traits of). if they must be executed fine do it and leave it at that. once you start taking pleasure from the torture of any animal your something ugly that doesnt function quite right anymore.

But its not torture for pleasure, it’s a necessary evil to make sure that people like this don’t pop up again, thinking that they’ll just get a slap on the wrist. These sociopaths need to understand that if they put a person through such pain, they will go through the same pain if they get caught. Death doesn’t scare these people, they’re beyond that, hell its an easy way out for them. But pain, they understand pain and if you put it out there that their punishment will be pain instead of a small stay at a prison while mommy and daddy get them out, they will think twice before committing such atrocities.
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as a person who might have commited a crime or two or known someone who commited a crime or two let me tell you something. nobody thinks of the punishment before or during the crime. the punishment is not a deterent for the crime it is set up so that the crime doesnt happen a second time. you dont cut the hand of a thief off to deter him from stealing, he is starving he will steal. you cut it off so he cannot steal again.

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Public torture. Let dogs eat them alive or something. Maybe it will deter others from committing simiar crimes, Then again maybe it will make the people watching turn into sick fucks.

:wink:

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[quote]destroyedquads wrote:
Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
im not gonna lie, i had tears in my eyes watching that video, I couldnt even watch past the first 30 seconds. Personally, I would do the same thing that Clyde did in the law abiding citizen, tie them up and sever their limbs one by one. And I wanna do the same thing, if not worse, to parents who think their precious kids are innocent and the mothers who want to make sure their kids are being treated well in prison.

seriously you are going to have to explain your reasoning on this. since these sick fucks did some sick shit, you in turn want to make a sick fuck out of yourself by mutilating them… and their families?

I believe in an eye for an eye. Just imagine if that guy was your brother, dad, son, friend, and three spoiled rich kids killed him for fun. And then, because of the parents that spoiled them, instead of getting either capital punishment (come on, im from texas) or at least hard labor in life imprisonment, its being made sure that their “stay” at prison is comfortable. And their parents go as far as to say that their children are being framed, despite the numerous videos that show their kids killing people and animals. I’m a very vengeful person, but that’s why anyone who knows me would think a million times before fucking with me or my family.

i too believe in a form of eye for an eye, when it comes to personal life. if someone hits me in a bar, im going to make it so that he cant hit me again. that said when it comes to a goverenment punishment, torture is simply out of the question; and this isnt stemming from some fairy tale pretend rights shit. this is just what seperates us from the sociopaths (which many of you are exhibiting traits of). if they must be executed fine do it and leave it at that. once you start taking pleasure from the torture of any animal your something ugly that doesnt function quite right anymore.

There is a difference though. These men have done horrible things and in essence torturing them can be considered as crude ‘revenge’ or punishment by the human mind. It all boils down to the fact that a lot of people have a sadistic drive to cause onto someone ‘justice’ when we see a human commit evil. That doesn’t mean it’s right, that’s just how crude human instincts are.

I’m not saying torturing these murderers is right. What I’m trying to say though is that there is a reason people get angry and feel that thse men should be physically punished for what they’ve done. In the end though it’s about morals; the death penalty is seen as morally injust in many western countries. [/quote]

Excuse my interjection but I personally don’t think the government should pursue forms of torture, and I would never be able to perpetrate the act of violent torture such as “tie them up and sever their limbs one by one”. That being said, the burden is on someone else now. And logically speaking, having someone else do it as a job or for money or something is a-whole-nother issue. How should we look at the executioner (torturer) then? With a blind eye because it was a service or should we execute the executioner as well? It’s a chain.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
Deorum wrote:
Deadsion wrote:
im not gonna lie, i had tears in my eyes watching that video, I couldnt even watch past the first 30 seconds. Personally, I would do the same thing that Clyde did in the law abiding citizen, tie them up and sever their limbs one by one. And I wanna do the same thing, if not worse, to parents who think their precious kids are innocent and the mothers who want to make sure their kids are being treated well in prison.

seriously you are going to have to explain your reasoning on this. since these sick fucks did some sick shit, you in turn want to make a sick fuck out of yourself by mutilating them… and their families?

I believe in an eye for an eye. Just imagine if that guy was your brother, dad, son, friend, and three spoiled rich kids killed him for fun. And then, because of the parents that spoiled them, instead of getting either capital punishment (come on, im from texas) or at least hard labor in life imprisonment, its being made sure that their “stay” at prison is comfortable. And their parents go as far as to say that their children are being framed, despite the numerous videos that show their kids killing people and animals. I’m a very vengeful person, but that’s why anyone who knows me would think a million times before fucking with me or my family.

i too believe in a form of eye for an eye, when it comes to personal life. if someone hits me in a bar, im going to make it so that he cant hit me again. that said when it comes to a goverenment punishment, torture is simply out of the question; and this isnt stemming from some fairy tale pretend rights shit. this is just what seperates us from the sociopaths (which many of you are exhibiting traits of). if they must be executed fine do it and leave it at that. once you start taking pleasure from the torture of any animal your something ugly that doesnt function quite right anymore.[/quote]

So my initial reaction was helplessness followed by sadness and then by extreme anger, now that I am not influenced by my emotions and have had some time to ponder this issue, I no longer feel that violent torture is the resolution. This is a normal reaction. No-one should feel ashamed of feeling that torture is a viable option (be careful not to believe that you could be the administrator of the act.)

Imprisonment for life with no human contact. Not even the voice of a person; absolute solitary confinement in silence. Enough nourishment to sustain a natural state of health (vitamins, minerals etc). Their food should have minimal, if not no flavor. Along with water. Everything in one room. Their beds will be soft enough to sleep on but not enough to find “comfort”. Tasteless toothpaste, scentless soap. No medical attention should be administered as there should be no need for it.

The only thing that will decide their human existence is if they decide to maintain their hygiene. If they maintain normal hygiene then they will receive normal nourishment distribution. If they do not, then they are choosing not to live. That process is the last words they will hear or read and will be offered in written and verbal context.

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the average cost to keep an inmate in prison is 45k a year. im simply not willling to spend that kind of money on someone who cant function well enough to be free.

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again, if this was someone you loved and cared for, and three psychopaths killed and posted vids of it on the internet, I would want them to suffer. And if you don’t feel the same way and put your trust in the judicial system to dole out a punishment, you’re lying to yourself. And I sure as hell don’t want my tax dollars to support such people.

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Didn’t watch the video and don’t want to.

Just wanted to go on record to say that murderers should be murdered - scratch that. Murderers should be used for medical experimentation and for things like being live crash test dummies.

They should inflict as much pain on these useless pieces of shit as possible. I say set them on fire and then extinguish them. Cut their arms and legs off, inflict wounds to them and let army medics practice on them.

Then see how much crime happens. Motherfuckers will think twice before killing someone.

Savages only understand savagery.

And thank god I live in a state where I can carry a gun!

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[quote]Deorum wrote:

in what way? most people here are calling for the torture of this man. that is what i find odd. that said i do not think these fuckers can ever function in society, also it is not my tax paying responsibility to pay for his life long stay in prison. economics considered the best solution is the simple have him executed. that is not torture. [/quote]

Economics considered? Use these pieces of shit for science! Let NASA strap them to a heat shield or some painful shit like that. Give them to a medical school where they could practice on them. At the very least I’d take a hammer to them and then use their organs. And I’m NOT kidding. Quick death would be too good for child-killers and those types. Have to let them suffer.

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[quote]saveski wrote:
Deorum wrote:

in what way? most people here are calling for the torture of this man. that is what i find odd. that said i do not think these fuckers can ever function in society, also it is not my tax paying responsibility to pay for his life long stay in prison. economics considered the best solution is the simple have him executed. that is not torture.

Economics considered? Use these pieces of shit for science! Let NASA strap them to a heat shield or some painful shit like that. Give them to a medical school where they could practice on them. At the very least I’d take a hammer to them and then use their organs. And I’m NOT kidding. Quick death would be too good for child-killers and those types. Have to let them suffer.

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your really not thinking logically. the fuckers are dying anyway, be it a long miserable life in jail where they can only hurt their like kind. or a quick execution. anything done to them other than a cheap and efficient execution is just you masturbating to their suffering.

shit your like the fucking market for the very snuff films these kids were making. only you fuckers are so sick you only need to read about the suffering to get off in your heads.

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why did I seek that video out? the breastfeeding vid was waay better.

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Medical experimentation, crash test, new vaccines/medicine tryouts, procesed for fertilizer… etc… there are many thing that could be done to ppl like that. But people are pussies, so i guess we will still have to pay for this ppl to live in prison.

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Didn’t watch the video, but read the article on wikipedia. It left me pretty speechless, what they did to animals alone would warrent me wanting to lock them up in a small enclosure with a bear to see how they liked it.

Reading about the victims families (1 was a mother to 3 children and wife to a disabled husband) just topped it off. “Life imprisonment” is not enough for these scumbags. All I can hope for is that people get tortured and beat in Ukrainean prisons.

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[quote]Yonatan wrote:
Didn’t watch the video, but read the article on wikipedia. It left me pretty speechless, what they did to animals alone would warrent me wanting to lock them up in a small enclosure with a bear to see how they liked it.

Reading about the victims families (1 was a mother to 3 children and wife to a disabled husband) just topped it off. “Life imprisonment” is not enough for these scumbags. All I can hope for is that people get tortured and beat in Ukrainean prisons.[/quote]

I agree man! Life in prison just does not cut it for these crimes. We need a higher level of punishment. I know if one of the victims was a loved one of mine, I would not rest until I got to take them to within an inch of death with my bare hands.

I’m not trying to talk or sound tough here. Just trying to get across how angry and vindictive I would be in such a situation.

Whoever mentioned the imprisonment with no human contact, no scents or tastes is onto something as well I think.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
Deorum wrote:
i really cannot understand the large majority of the responses to this. seems like a lot are asking for his torture. so because he did things to people that you think are disguisting, you want to in turn inflict them(or worse) on him? wanting pain inflicted on those who inflict pain is not compassion. compassion would be wanting this to never happen to anyone again. that said i would just want the three executed in whatever way cheap and efficient.

Hypocrisy

in what way? most people here are calling for the torture of this man. that is what i find odd. that said i do not think these fuckers can ever function in society, also it is not my tax paying responsibility to pay for his life long stay in prison. economics considered the best solution is the simple have him executed. that is not torture. [/quote]

It’s hypocrisy because you are against torture but advocating capital punishment. Using an economical solution to decide on matters of life and death? It isn’t any man’s place to decide who should die and who should live. If society were to determine that then we would be just as bad as them. They thought they had the right to end that man’s life, and that was their biggest crime. Society has to be better than the criminals. Chemically castrate them and put them away until they are dead. Then bury them in unmarked graves.

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[quote]kheaslim wrote:
I agree man! Life in prison just does not cut it for these crimes. We need a higher level of punishment. I know if one of the victims was a loved one of mine, I would not rest until I got to take them to within an inch of death with my bare hands.[/quote]

We shall make a movie and call it Law Abiding Citizen 2?!

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[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Deorum wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
Deorum wrote:
i really cannot understand the large majority of the responses to this. seems like a lot are asking for his torture. so because he did things to people that you think are disguisting, you want to in turn inflict them(or worse) on him? wanting pain inflicted on those who inflict pain is not compassion. compassion would be wanting this to never happen to anyone again. that said i would just want the three executed in whatever way cheap and efficient.

Hypocrisy

in what way? most people here are calling for the torture of this man. that is what i find odd. that said i do not think these fuckers can ever function in society, also it is not my tax paying responsibility to pay for his life long stay in prison. economics considered the best solution is the simple have him executed. that is not torture.

It’s hypocrisy because you are against torture but advocating capital punishment. Using an economical solution to decide on matters of life and death? It isn’t any man’s place to decide who should die and who should live. If society were to determine that then we would be just as bad as them. They thought they had the right to end that man’s life, and that was their biggest crime. Society has to be better than the criminals. Chemically castrate them and put them away until they are dead. Then bury them in unmarked graves.

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holy shit am i arguing with a child? this time let me state it in nothing but facts.

  1. these people cannot function in society
  2. torturing theme provides nothing but us material on which to masterbate
  3. death sentence removes them from society
  4. life in prison also removes them from society, but at a HUGE cost

the fuck is so hard to understand? we cant decide who lives and dies? the fuck world do you live in son? we go overseas and prove ourselves the god of lands. we go to foreign nations and kill solely to promote our adgenda. our citizens are no exception. if they are in the way of our ideals, they too can have their life revoked.

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Deorum: I dont know you and you can think what you want about me but, let me ask you one question. Supposee your mother, or son, ect. went missing. They turn up dead with obvious signs of torture. Then you see a video of killers having fun while they commit this EVIL act. I cannot believe that you would not seek vengence adn if you wouldnt than you lack understanding of the value of human life just as the killers. I say tie up the scum and let the victims’ families do as they wish. This is not wrong or sick because this is showing that human lifes means something and there are concqunces for playing God. Dont kill them just leave them in a state where they live hell on earth, dont even put them in the position to kill themselvs. And if you think this punishment is wrong wht do you think will happen to these fucks when they are judged in the next world?

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
Deorum wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
Deorum wrote:
i really cannot understand the large majority of the responses to this. seems like a lot are asking for his torture. so because he did things to people that you think are disguisting, you want to in turn inflict them(or worse) on him? wanting pain inflicted on those who inflict pain is not compassion. compassion would be wanting this to never happen to anyone again. that said i would just want the three executed in whatever way cheap and efficient.

Hypocrisy

in what way? most people here are calling for the torture of this man. that is what i find odd. that said i do not think these fuckers can ever function in society, also it is not my tax paying responsibility to pay for his life long stay in prison. economics considered the best solution is the simple have him executed. that is not torture.

It’s hypocrisy because you are against torture but advocating capital punishment. Using an economical solution to decide on matters of life and death? It isn’t any man’s place to decide who should die and who should live. If society were to determine that then we would be just as bad as them. They thought they had the right to end that man’s life, and that was their biggest crime. Society has to be better than the criminals. Chemically castrate them and put them away until they are dead. Then bury them in unmarked graves.

holy shit am i arguing with a child? this time let me state it in nothing but facts.

  1. these people cannot function in society
  2. torturing theme provides nothing but us material on which to masterbate
  3. death sentence removes them from society
  4. life in prison also removes them from society, but at a HUGE cost

the fuck is so hard to understand? we cant decide who lives and dies? the fuck world do you live in son? we go overseas and prove ourselves the god of lands. we go to foreign nations and kill solely to promote our adgenda. our citizens are no exception. if they are in the way of our ideals, they too can have their life revoked.

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I understand completely where you’re coming from, but I don’t agree with going overseas and proving ourselves “God of Lands” either. The judicial system is not a war, and can’t be run by people who would judge out of rage (such as the various people advocating the torture option), or out of whatever is the cheapest option. The solution is to come up with a humane way to remove them from society, as you say, and think about the cost afterwards.

Do you agree with the killing of innocents to “promote our agenda”? It is a human life, and while I agree that these killers are a vile excuse for a human life, if we tell them that they no longer have the right to live, then not only are we just as bad as they are, but you’re teaching generations of children that to their society, basic human life, irrespective of its faults, is worth nothing. Did you ever think that the perpetrators are perhaps seriously mentally ill?

I’m not a child (haha!), just someone with a clear set of ideals and a good enough grasp of history to know that killing people, no matter who they are, rarely solves anything.

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[quote]MrDan500 wrote:
Deorum: I dont know you and you can think what you want about me but, let me ask you one question. Supposee your mother, or son, ect. went missing. They turn up dead with obvious signs of torture. Then you see a video of killers having fun while they commit this EVIL act. I cannot believe that you would not seek vengence adn if you wouldnt than you lack understanding of the value of human life just as the killers. I say tie up the scum and let the victims’ families do as they wish. This is not wrong or sick because this is showing that human lifes means something and there are concqunces for playing God. Dont kill them just leave them in a state where they live hell on earth, dont even put them in the position to kill themselvs. And if you think this punishment is wrong wht do you think will happen to these fucks when they are judged in the next world?
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mabey this is the problem. i dont believe in any sort of otherworld. at least nothing like what modern religion would teach. lets not make this a religious debate though.

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If you turn the corner and see this shit go down a little ways up and you are carrying heat. Are you going to call the cops, try to get them to surrender, or do you just open fire? I mean you see the kid with the video camera, you hear the laughter and you see the blows land one after another, you realize very quickly these kids are not acting in self defense. You have a gun, what do you do?

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