[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Oleena wrote:
Although this is interesting. These are pictures of women competing on the national level (2009 NPC Nationals). Although they’re much more muscular, they aren’t more cut. Check out the creases between the muscles in these backs compared to the girl from my gym. I think her back skin looks much tighter than these women on the national level.
They are different poses, so you can’t really compare them because they will look different. IMO the 2nd girl you posted (the one I’m quoting) is much more conditioned.[/quote] She obviously has a lot more muscle. I was just looking at how close the skin was sitting on and between the muscles. [quote]
Even if the girl in your gym’s legs are lagging, it really wouldn’t make a difference with a 3.1% body fat test. 3.1% is 3.1, and then times a 1000 because it’s a woman.[/quote]
Well, sure she’s leaner than those girls - they’re competing in Figure not BB. Figure girls carry more fat than BB in their shows. I thought I read somewhere Figure gilrs compete at 10-12% bodyfat.
Wow, she used to be over 200lbs and she is a mom of two! That is amazing to get to that kind of conditioning after that. Very well done, regardless of the bodyfat controversy.
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
does there ever come a day when u dont enjoy the satisfaction of being right?
i hope not.
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Whatever CBear84! You know my general point that eating a starvation diet to drop body fat is a bad idea is true.
BTW, there’s the one guy I’ve been training who hadn’t lost fat in a couple of weeks. The first week he switched to a high quality whey protein, he lost 5lbs. Then he plateaued again, so I made him eat 200 more calories per day. He lost another 10lbs. Now, whenever his progress stalls, we just up the calories again. It doesn’t make sense when you think about calories in and calories out, but I’ve always had better luck putting people on higher calories with less fat and carbs in the diet and having them lift heavy then trying to cut back 500-1000 calories per day.
[quote]Oleena wrote:
eating a starvation diet to drop body fat is a bad idea is true.[/quote]
this is true
applying a “kcal in, kcal out” rule is a blanket idea and most of those are fucked up, any time you try to go specific with it.
weight loss is different from fat loss is different from muscle gain is different in a sedentary vs active vs goals vs history vs ability vs metabolism vs etc etc etc.
i hate the kcal in, kcal out theory. i dont even like typing it.
You’d think a PT know this kind of basic stuff.[/quote]
Why is it obvious to everyone but me? I don’t think it is. What she knows is what the woman told her. Perhaps next time she’ll request written documentation to present to all the arm chair warriors. The woman looks impressive, in my opinion at any rate. Perhaps I’m easy to impress.
Why is it obvious to everyone but me? I don’t think it is. What she knows is what the woman told her. Perhaps next time she’ll request written documentation to present to all the arm chair warriors. The woman looks impressive, in my opinion at any rate. Perhaps I’m easy to impress.
Just throw yourself on the top of the pile. [/quote]
Well if you’re claiming to be a professional trainer and it’s not obvious then you probably need to spend less time trolling and more time reading about your field. But you are not and so it doesn’t apply to you, at least as far as I know.
If someone is going to make ridiculous claims they had better expect to be called on them and I don’t think that’s an unreasonable expectation.
Why is it obvious to everyone but me? I don’t think it is. What she knows is what the woman told her. Perhaps next time she’ll request written documentation to present to all the arm chair warriors. The woman looks impressive, in my opinion at any rate. Perhaps I’m easy to impress.
Just throw yourself on the top of the pile. [/quote]
the term “3% bodyfat” is not an opinion. it’s a scietific declaration. one that those interested in this type of thing know to be basically impossible for a woman to obtain.
if a chick claimed she could squat 1000 lbs and then posted a video of her squatting 300… we could all tell her she still looked good… but would it matter?
Why is it obvious to everyone but me? I don’t think it is. What she knows is what the woman told her. Perhaps next time she’ll request written documentation to present to all the arm chair warriors. The woman looks impressive, in my opinion at any rate. Perhaps I’m easy to impress.
Just throw yourself on the top of the pile.
the term “3% bodyfat” is not an opinion. it’s a scietific declaration. one that those interested in this type of thing know to be basically impossible for a woman to obtain.
if a chick claimed she could squat 1000 lbs and then posted a video of her squatting 300… we could all tell her she still looked good… but would it matter?
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I take your point. My area of interest doesn’t typically extend to body fat. It more generally falls within the 300lb vs. 1,000lb squat. However, I think the response would have been different had someone else made the initial claim.
Far from being nice for the purpose of being nice, my observation is an overly negative reaction for its’ own purpose.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I take your point. My area of interest doesn’t typically extend to body fat. It more generally falls within the 300lb vs. 1,000lb squat. However, I think the response would have been different had someone else made the initial claim.
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Of course it would. And rightfully so. If it’s the first time you come across like this then people will be gentler. Not that I actually think anyone is being overly harsh.
[quote]debraD wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
I take your point. My area of interest doesn’t typically extend to body fat. It more generally falls within the 300lb vs. 1,000lb squat. However, I think the response would have been different had someone else made the initial claim.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
debraD wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
I take your point. My area of interest doesn’t typically extend to body fat. It more generally falls within the 300lb vs. 1,000lb squat. However, I think the response would have been different had someone else made the initial claim.
Of course it would. And rightfully so.
Why?[/quote]
Sorry, I edited my post to say more. Because some people have credibility and have shown themselves to know what they are talking about and as such they are going to receive different treatment than someone else who has admitted to bullshit, creating fake identities, trolling and generally fucking with the posters here, and different yet from someone who is just naive and couldn’t know and isn’t claiming to be an experienced professional.
[quote]debraD wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
debraD wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
I take your point. My area of interest doesn’t typically extend to body fat. It more generally falls within the 300lb vs. 1,000lb squat. However, I think the response would have been different had someone else made the initial claim.
Of course it would. And rightfully so.
Why?
Sorry, I edited my post to say more. Because some people have credibility and have shown themselves to know what they are talking about and as such they are going to receive different treatment than someone else who has admitted to bullshit, creating fake identities, trolling and generally fucking with the posters here, and different yet from someone who is just naive and couldn’t know and isn’t claiming to be an experienced professional.[/quote]
I can see your point. From my own perspective, there are several people who post here that I generally ignore because I consider them to be vapid and attention seeking.
