I hope you didn’t mean Prof X, I respect that guy. Back to the original topic, its a little strange that the OP would be keen on bulking up with as much mass as he does on his 5’7" frame.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
He already has the self righteousness and argumentative attitude.
Now all we need is to have this chap start telling people he’s stronger than everyone else and we have the new English version of…[/quote]
fortunately this is a “rate my physique” section as opposed to a “rate my argument” section- there would be a lot of “1’s” going down! I think the poster looks good- pretty massive with good definition, although a larger/better photo would help.
As for steroids, I have mixed feelings between personal freedom to use them vs. the risks people will take for short-term gain in spite of long-term risks. Sometimes people do have to be protected from themselves, which is why steroids are illegal in most countries. Given that, I accept that people will want to use them (hell, I’ve been tempted when I feel I’m not progressing).
The one thing that really pisses me off, though, is athletes using steroids in sports where they’re not legal, and lying about it. I have competed in natural BB comps, and there have been cases of people winning, and then being caught on drug tests. I agree with British Muscle there that this IS cheating, and those people are the scum of the earth.
Paul
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
I agree with British Muscle there that this IS cheating, and those people are the scum of the earth.
Paul[/quote]
Well you and british muscle have used supplements before, you guys cheated. I farm raise all my own food and cook it because I hate cheats like you and britishmuscle.
But seriously tho, british muscle, you are the most annoying immature little fag I have ever met. People try to go real slow and explain to you why your a dumbass and all you can do is say some stupid immature shit and ignore what they have to say.
Go try to pushpress 135, when you fail at it, and you will fail, let the bar comedown on your head.
Its seriously not worth trying to explain to you guys why you are wrong, all I can realy say is your retarted.
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
I agree with British Muscle there that this IS cheating, and those people are the scum of the earth.
Paul[/quote]
Child molesters, murderers/serial killers, narco-terrorists, wife beaters, communist tyrants, rapists…These and their ilk are “scum of the earth” and are a clear and present danger to society…Equating steroid users to these real criminals shows a distinct lack of reasoned priority…
blacksnake and uber- I wrote that people who use steroids, etc. in NATURAL competitions are cheaters, not steroid users in general. In a sport where everyone else is playing by the rules, and someone takes advantage of them by using a prohibited substance, and then lies about it, that is really cheating, and I do think that people like that are scum. I didn’t say that they were the worst scum, just scum!
Paul
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
blacksnake and uber- I wrote that people who use steroids, etc. in NATURAL competitions are cheaters, not steroid users in general. In a sport where everyone else is playing by the rules, and someone takes advantage of them by using a prohibited substance, and then lies about it, that is really cheating, and I do think that people like that are scum. I didn’t say that they were the worst scum, just scum!
Paul[/quote]
Oh, I apologise then.
irishmuscle,
i started reading your reply and didn’t read anymore,what’s the point of reading it when it’s basically full of extreme hatred ,most probably because i am British.
i can’t help it if you are envious of my size,it’s cause i don’t get drunk of Guinness every weekend.
Good luck ,and take care now.
so u don’t know the difference between natural aids made from milk whey and artiificial steroids? Yes of course they are both illegal!!
How embarassing is that!!
I laughed at your reply,god it’s almost as funny as Andy Kaufman was on a bad night.
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
blacksnake and uber- I wrote that people who use steroids, etc. in NATURAL competitions are cheaters, not steroid users in general. In a sport where everyone else is playing by the rules, and someone takes advantage of them by using a prohibited substance, and then lies about it, that is really cheating, and I do think that people like that are scum. I didn’t say that they were the worst scum, just scum!
Paul[/quote]
I agree…drug cheats are scum.
What is even worse is the fact that the kids look up to Cutler etc… and want to be like them but don;t care for the BNBF competitors etc…
Maybe the fact that Marion Jones could go to jail will change the whole picture and get the tops pros in building sent down as well.
Irish Muscle wrote
“i know you are caught up in the mindset that you are a natural hero who will grow massive and everyone will sing their praises for you but the reality is that no one gives a shit about you or natural mr. olympia because natural bodybuilding sucks ass because they all look stringy and small and stringy.”
There are a lot of pretty damn huge natural bodybuilders- and I think they look a lot beter than the guys on juice with their big bellies from growth hormone, etc. I attached a photo af Ade Rai, who is a hero all over Asia as a natural bodybuilder.
Paul
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
Irish Muscle wrote
“i know you are caught up in the mindset that you are a natural hero who will grow massive and everyone will sing their praises for you but the reality is that no one gives a shit about you or natural mr. olympia because natural bodybuilding sucks ass because they all look stringy and small and stringy.”
There are a lot of pretty damn huge natural bodybuilders- and I think they look a lot beter than the guys on juice with their big bellies from growth hormone, etc. I attached a photo af Ade Rai, who is a hero all over Asia as a natural bodybuilder.
Paul
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Glad you posted something! While i’m open minded about folks using aas, the idea that natural bodybuilders all look “small and stringy” is silly!
[quote]middlleagedguy wrote:
blacksnake and uber- I wrote that people who use steroids, etc. in NATURAL competitions are cheaters, not steroid users in general. In a sport where everyone else is playing by the rules, and someone takes advantage of them by using a prohibited substance, and then lies about it, that is really cheating, and I do think that people like that are scum. I didn’t say that they were the worst scum, just scum!
Paul[/quote]
You made a reasonable point, in that the rules state one must be “natural” at the time of the comp. Breaking that rule is in fact cheating (although it is a fact that many natural competitors have done cycles in the past, but that’s another issue). The reason you were misunderstood was hitching your wagon to BM, who is incapable of any sort of reasoned argument whatsoever, thereby taking on his emotionalist reactionary excesses as your own. You are obviously more than capable of making your own points…
[quote]britishmuscle39 wrote:
irishmuscle,
i can’t help it if you are envious of my size,it’s cause i don’t get drunk of Guinness every weekend.
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Maybe you should start.
It’s not like Frank Zane or Arnold or Sergio or Serge would fit the description given of bloated Gh gut bodybuilders.
They could have eaily passed for what is considered a ‘natural’ look imo.
Yet they were all users…
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
britishmuscle39 wrote:
irishmuscle,
i can’t help it if you are envious of my size,it’s cause i don’t get drunk of Guinness every weekend.
Maybe you should start.[/quote]
Well i am not on steroids and i am a beginner unlike irish muscle.
He is so passionate about steroids that it’s obvious he is on them ,he just an obnoxious nasty piece of rubbish,talking out of his behind.
[quote]britishmuscle39 wrote:
i can’t help it if you are envious of my size,it’s cause i don’t get drunk of Guinness every weekend.
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I laughed out loud for 15 minutes at this one. Seriously man, you can’t make a comment like that when his BF is much lower than yours, and he is much bigger than you are.
On to the serious topic. Steroid use isn’t cheating unless you are using it to advance yourself in a sport where it is banned. In order to “cheat”, there has to be someone who suffers a disadvantage when compared to you. When he is using it for personal gain and he doesn’t compete in anything where it will help him, and he is obviously using safely, where is your argument?
Just for effect:
[quote]britishmuscle39 wrote:
i can’t help it if you are envious of my size,it’s cause i don’t get drunk of Guinness every weekend.
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I had to put this in here, because I was STILL laughing after I finished typing this.
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I had to put this in here, because I was STILL laughing after I finished typing this.[/quote]
he is on steroids ,just look at his change of physique in such a short time,also he is so passionate about roids that he writes a crazed reply about myself.
I workout naturally ,laugh at that if you wish.
I have read through the heated debate …and can appreciate both sides. Here’s my 2 cents (it’s worth about that!!). I agree, in part, with JoeyD20, that cheating in a sport includes instances where steroids are illegal/banned in a sport.
However, since it is illegal to write a prescription ,receive a prescription and used the prescribed drugs when there is NO legimate medical purpose - and satisfying someon’e psychological needs to get bigger and stronger don’t count IMO - I believe it is also “cheating” when the act performed to enhance performance is also a crime.
I think of it similar to a hockey match when the hit or check goes a step beyond the rules and assault charges are brought against a player. When it’s illegal in “society” and is done to enhance performance, it is, in fact, a form of cheating. Barry Bonds - if he juiced (don’t laugh too hard at that, but nothing has been proven…yet) - is a cheat, even if what he took was not specifically prohibited in baseball at the time.
this thread is all about the lulz
[quote]britishmuscle39 wrote:
I had to put this in here, because I was STILL laughing after I finished typing this.
he is on steroids ,just look at his change of physique in such a short time,also he is so passionate about roids that he writes a crazed reply about myself.
I workout naturally ,laugh at that if you wish.[/quote]
hey, me too. but you still suck.
hahahahahahaha…you call that working out?
Hey guys tubby lumpkins here say he’s into working out… who’da thunk it? He says Irish muscle get’s drunk off guiness every weekend because he’s irish…and uses roids because he’s still better then him.
British…you fail.