[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
NO but I have a step son that has,(Shit you may be him:) when was the last time you were in a port or saw a bill of lading
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Not in a while. Ship a 200,000 pound crane across an ocean and tell me it’s cheap.
But again, as I’ve stated, that’s only one part of what makes it a disadvantage.[/quote]
You live in America , try going to VietNam , no insurance , probably no port fee , hell no tax,no minimum wage , getting it to port would be a lot simpler as well , no truck insurance , no business license no tax ,probably no drivers license 
No environmental stardards to comply with . You want to compare apple trees and seeds
I doubt you are fortunate enough to conduct business with out paying tariffs
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We don’t compete with any Vietnamese manufacturers of cranes. The same things you are talking about are also what prevent them from producing things.
It’s places like Japan and Germany we compete with. So, tell me again, how much cheaper is it?[/quote]
I am curious how you leap from 3rd world countries and then Japan and expect the conversation to flow uninterupted, we were talking steel [/quote]
Most of what we have been talking about has been more general terms.
But my point in this is that the infrastructure that leads to expensiveness also has advantages.
We buy large steel weldments from Mexico. There is a large tradeoff between initial cost and quality/reliability.
But more generally:
Not having insurance mean that the supplier is screwed if something messes up, and buying from them, you assume part of that risk. If the exporting countries inspections are poor, it more likely there is something wrong with the shipment when they get here. If you pay someone barely enough to eat on and have them working 12 hour days without breaks, work quality suffers, workers become unreliable, est. If you are buying from a country with unstable politics, you can lose your supply if something happens there (this has happened to us).
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I believe you , it almost sounds like you are making my argument[/quote]
No, I’m saying living in a developed country is a big benefit to manufacturing. That developed countries have an “unfair” advantage.[/quote]
Not when it come to price , not all steel in used for equipment , some is used for as simple as rebar
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Yes, when it comes to total cost analysis.