hi there
I can not fanthom why 25mm needle lenght is recommended for deltoid injection.
It looks like I have about 3mm if not 2 of tissue over my muscle, not 20mm.
can someone explain me what the fuck is going on ?
peace <3
Well, it’s an intramuscular injection, so you want it deeper in the muscle. I agree that 25mm is excessive unless you have massive delts or you’re really fat. But the deeper the injection is in the muscle, the less chance of it leaking subQ
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I pin my TRT with 12.5mm (1/2") 29g insulin needles and never have any sub-q leak in my delts.
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Not sure if you were vaccinated but the COV vaccine was shot with 25mm in the shoulder. At least for me it was. 25mm is fine. What exactly is your concern? You can always just do glutes or quads if you dont want to do delts.
My point is that you want the injection deep. I also use 1/2” needles all the time
In my delts and have never had a subQ leak. I have had subQ leaks in my glutes though. And it fucking blows
I want to optimize my injections and I think a 16mm needle would clearly be enough, but everyone on the internet recommend a 25mm, this is what was disturbing me.
plus the 25mm are generally 23G and the 16mm 25g, which would further optimize the injection experience
If you’re worried about that level of detail, I would hope you’re a friggin monster that eats 45 lb plates for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You should be just fine with either length in the delts. I wouldn’t go much shorter than 12mm though. And certainly wouldn’t go longer than 25
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Then go deeper. Optimized injections are as deep as possible, as it is much easier to absorb from the middle of the muscle instead of putting the oil barelly under the very surface of the muscle.
I believe you dont want to optimize, i believe you are scared shitless to inject and you look for aproval to just use insulin needles because they are less scary for you.
Some good 15 years back all we had in my country was 21G 35mm and no one even blinked about just pinning with what we had.
Not only did everyone just used 21G, since being a student in this shithole ment you were poor as fuck, we also re-used the same needle for like 10 times at least, until you couldnt stab it in with any amount of force you tried to apply.
Now i read how you are scared shitless about 25mm and i just feel like some old fart wondering “back in my days men were actually MEN” 
no offence, just joking…
stop crying and just jab it in… if you are afraid, there are lots of activities which dont require you doing any shots.
thug boay
@hankthetank89
So for im injections in the outer thigh, using 1 1/2 needles are better than 1 inch? (Legs are around 30 inches)
Thanks
Gonna depend on how lean you are. I use 1/2” on my quads just fine, but my legs are very lean.
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I believe you can get away with 1 inch.
I am like @wanna_be - my legs dont get fat, no matter what is my weight my quads are just muscle and dick skin on it, so i can even use insulin needle.
Its just that the guy wanted OPTIMAL. Optimal is always deeper.
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