Who won ?? He looks like granite. Hit his conditioning looks like.
Unless Iām mistaken, drag is just dress. They arenāt manipulating there bodies. Show me a contest where men take a bunch of estrogen and show off their boobs. I canāt imagine the feedback would be positive.
Iām with @EyeDentist, that sounds like drag. Iāve never watched a show but Iām willing to bet no-ones taking a pop at them for their bicep peaks.
Damn, thatās impressive.
That is the best side leg shot I have ever seen. Absolutely unbelievable!
Iād like to see the score sheet.
Itās hard for me to imagine he wasnāt the very clear winner.
Pretty much what DD said. It takes away from a womanās innate femininity when they take male hormones. They become poor copies of men.Iām old enough to remember when womenās bodybuilding was somewhat appealing, before drugs got extreme. Women still looked like women. Even if a female bodybuilder gives up the drugs, she still retains the virilized facial features, deep masculine voice and body hair. So its a pretty big lifetime commitment, not one that works out well for most women that go down that line, especially after retirement.
When a man takes extra male hormones he is accentuating his innate masculinity. If a man took female hormones he would be going against his essential masculine nature, and detracting from it. He would look more feminine, but not enough to convincingly appear female.
Iām not a big fan of mens open BB either, because of too much drugs. Its unhealthy, and doesnāt really look good. Its a freakshow in its own way.
Thanks buddy
Yeah, I would have put Hadi ahead of Phil as well. Definitely see Ramy taking the win. Brandon was more complete than a lot of guys up there, but next to Ramy, I canāt make a very strong case this year.
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Iāve seen a lot of talk elsewhere about grimes being the future of open. What are yāallās thoughts on that? This was his first O and although smaller than the others, still looked great.
That makes sense to me.
I guess I look at it pretty one dimensionally in that in the sport of getting bigger/leaner/better proportioned, who did best?
Dude canāt be human. Iāve never seen a hamstring look like that.
Now that the Olympia has had four different winners in four years (Heath, Rhoden, Curry, Ramy) do you think the competition is getting tighter at the top?
It is really a sport for the mid-30s onwards. Ramy is 36, Curry 38, Heath 41, bonac 38 and Hadi a young colt at 33. Not sure about the woman
My uneducated guess is that the thin skin makes them look old and is worse for women than men
Wasnāt even close.
Hadi was only one point back from Phil, could have easily taken third.
I know this is a bit off the subjectā¦
Back in the day I was an NPC National Judge, so I have some background in scoring. So I ask:
It looks like there are 7 judges for āJudgingā, yet the āFinalsā appears to have 5 judges. Is that the case? And if so, why?
Or are there 9 judges for āJudgingā, and 7 judges for the āFinalsā, where they drop the high and low scores?
After further inspection there are only 5 tallied judges scores in the āJudgingā round.
I understand these rounds are held on consecutive days. Iād hate to have to know I had to hold peak conditioning for two days.
The cynic in me shakes my head on how Ramy got at least 2 judges picking him 3rd or worse (Assuming 7 judges with the high and low dropped).
The āJudgingā portion ākilledā Hadi. It looks like he got all 2nds in the āFinalsā
Thatās an interesting question. Iāve heard a lot of big fans of the sport complain about dynasties. Back in the day, you wouldnāt see a competitor stay atop the Olympia throne for almost a decade at a time. Arnold was an anomaly with 7 straight wins (some years no one else showed up!). Of course there werenāt so many top level competitors around even vying for the title, so thatās a big difference between the early 70ās and the late 80ās on.
I also think with so many factors (cough, cough, PEDs etc, cough, cough) playing into peaking on game day - especially now that they do prejudging and finals on different days - someone who might look ready to win a few hours out can seriously mess it all up by the time he walks onstage⦠so in that regard, the āgameā has definitely changed. Whether the competition is tougher, or whether the game has become tougher (more complicated?),⦠thatās the question IMO.
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