Your Cut-and-Paste list will mean nothing to me, Zeb…because you don’t have one compiled for Reagan…and it’s extremely doubtful that you will compile one for Trump.
And you are so Partisan that you can’t tell your nose from your face.
EVERY President will have successes and failures…so post away with your list.
It will have no meaning to me.
Well. he did unwittingly helped cement the foundations of salafi revival
You couldn’t “leave” Japanese home islands, so the point is moot. Japanese could even transfer the Kwantung Army from Manchuko/Korea to the Home islands as US B-24s and submarines preyed on Japanese shipping.
Also, Truman did allude to the Japanese in public radio broadcasts about US weapons of “great force” that will be used against them.
And after the fiasco that was the Bay of Pigs caused by poor planning and JFKs reluctance to provide US aircover to the Cuban exiles, the Cuban missile crisis in which US troops for primed and ready for an invasion, JFK gave guarantees to Khrushchev that US will not invade Cuba and all CIA sabotage attempts ceased.
The hostages were freed thanks to Carter’s negotiations. The Iranians freed them on Reagan’s inauguration day just to deny Carter the PR triumph. There are some allegations (unproven) that Reagan’s campaign pleaded with the Iranians to delay the hostage release after the 1980 election.
Oh by the way, which President did provide spare parts for Iranian F-14s?
In Zeb’s World?
President Obama, of course.
Of course it will mean nothing to you. You voted for that disaster twice no doubt. And now to make yourself feel better about your horrendous decision you feel compelled to defend him. I know, I know you are just a middle of the road “rational” sort of guy who can see both sides clearly. Pfft…
Furthermore, purely for your edification I am well aware that every President has had successes and failures. Did I ever say otherwise? NO. But you continue to say this as if it refutes even one word I’ve said about Obama. It does not!
My point is and always has been that Obama is the worst modern day President. I will go further for you. I understand that Ronald Reagan had his failures. I understand that Bill Clinton had his failures. But both of these men had some resounding success stories that helped America move forward.
There you go, one republican and one democrat each successful Presidents who had some failures.
You see Obama’s failures so out weigh any minute successes that he may have had they are barely worth mentioning.
He really was that bad. And history will prove me correct as soon as we speed away from this disgusting pc era that we currently live in.
We’ll see.
I think the key word here is "unwittingly:.
He did that to get the Japanese military to surrender. A good move. Now what has Obama done to get the Islamic terrorists to surrender? Um…drone attacks…how’s that working out?
Don’t allow the point to fly over your head. The fact is JFK T R I E D to dethrone Castro. What did Obama do? He normalized relations and embraced the murderous regime. GOOD JOB BARACK!!!
Yes, I’ve read such drivel. The fact is the Iranians were scared of Reagan. He was portrayed as a “wild cowboy” who might do just about anything. In other words he had them on the run even before he was President. They perceived Carter as weak.
For some reason the left does not understand that the world is not full of roses and lollipops. There are some nasty thugs out there and they don’t want to sit down and talk. They want to decapitate our culture. The only way to handle them is to show strength early on. Obama showed the opposite and failed miserably because of it.
First of all, Japan was faced with the double whammy of USSR’s declaration of war and subsequent invasion of Manchuria, as well as and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some argue that the former was a more devastating blow to Japan’s morale as finally the Japanese Army was defeated in battle (the US forces fought primarily against the Imperial Navy and Air Force, the Army was in China)
Imperial Japan was a conventional power, who surrendered only after Allies guaranteed the Emperor’s future and that the Japanese will be able to choose the form of government they see fit.
You cannot compare that to the death cult that is salafi islam - terrorists cannot “surrender”, especially not those that believe they’re following the literal word of God.
As far as Cuba goes, it’s over. And Obama nailed the last nail in the coffin with the normalization of relations.
The US won. As soon as Raul keels over, we’re back to pre-Castro times. Trust me, I’ve been to Cuba.
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Imperial Japan was a conventional power, who surrendered only after Allies guaranteed the Emperor’s future and that the Japanese will be able to choose the form of government they see fit.[/quote]
If they hadn’t surrendered the US had an additional 10 atomic bombs which were ready to go. After the complete devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki they had enough.
I don’t really think that’s what I am doing. I am not comparing as much as I am contrasting the approaches used. I am well aware that this is a different set of circumstances. But, what has Obama done which would cause US citizens to look back as we do now on FDR and Truman, and say “it’s good thing Obama took care of those evil terrorists groups.”
Different circumstances call for a different approach. But one that still works. Obama has not only failed to prevent terrorism, more terrorist groups are alive and well because of his failed policies and approach.
Okay, you are going to have to explain yourself with this comment. How does Obama normalizing relations with Cuba and embracing a murderous dictator put a nail in their coffin. You don’t think that old Raul has a protégé that he is grooming to take over?
The deadlines were in the SOFA, for the whole world to see (including you–check the link). There was no fluidity, as al-Maliki (again, Bush’s guy) was totally in-the-pocket of his Iranian overlords, and was not about to re-negotiate the SOFA.
Dubya wouldn’t have honored the SOFA he himself negotiated and signed? That’s a bold theory.
No, you need to be more specific. Are we talking an invasion? Because if Trump simply continues the air campaign, that will be nothing but vindication for Obama.
Yeah, I’m glad we’re going to have a POTUS who will take a hard line with Putin–who won’t brook his interfering in our national affairs, for example.
Oh wait…
Conventional air raids, such as the one Tokyo a couple of day prior to Hiroshima killed more civilians than Hiroshima. It’s was more of a psychological double whammy, as contemporary Japanese accounts show.
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Okay, you are going to have to explain yourself with this comment. How does Obama normalizing relations with Cuba and embracing a murderous dictator put a nail in their coffin. [/quote]
It’s over. Cuba has the “end-of-communism” atmosphere, exactly like Eastern Europe in 1989. Everyone knows it’s bullshit and they’re simply waiting for Raul to die.
If there wasn’t any normalization, the Cubans could have played on the nationalist card and the “us vs. them” fortress mentality, but now - it’s over.
A friend of mine was on Cuba the day Fidel died. He filmed many videos with his phone - I’m not going to post them here as people still might get into trouble - but it shows people in Havana clapping, cheering and toasting. Only a couple of elderly men crying.
And here’s the problem. The youngest Cuban politician anyone knows is Marco Rubio.
He will not last 4 years I can guarantee that.
If you are saying that radical Islam can be destroyed or at least marginalized to the point of irrelevance via force, then yes we do agree.
No, I agree with this guy:
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He has bombed more Muslim countries than any other president in American history. In doing so, he has ordered the deaths of scores of thousands of jihadists and thousands of collateral (Muslim) civilians. So I guess you’re just a fuckin’ idiot.
I would agree with you if it were up to the people. But, as we both know ruthless dictators tend not to care what the people want. And I’m sure you realize that Raul has plans for Cuba long after he is dead. One more viscous dictator will step up and continue to abuse the people. How do the people step up and form a democracy when the dictator controls the military? Unless you are suggesting some sort of military coup. I think the odds are slim my friend.
Of course I don’t. You and I are not military leaders and we really don’t know all of the tools that the administration has at their disposal.
The current word from Obama’s spy chiefs are that Russia hacked the DNC. Okay, so they hacked the DNC. How does that make Trump a servant of Putin? Oh that’s right it’s the lefts way of demeaning the new Trump administration.
Also, I’m not convinced that Russia hacked the DNC. Simply because the Obama administration said it is so. Didn’t they also say they didn’t have enough on Hillary to indict her? I thought that was actually funny. Ball-less Comey bowed down to Loretta Lynch who refused to allow a Grand Jury to be seated for the Hillary Clinton case. Was that an honest Justice Department? No.
And yet you want me to trust the Obama administration regarding the hacking issue? I am not saying he is but I don’t trust any HIS departments determinations.
But as I said above it matters not anyway.
Doesn’t sound like you’re all that sure Trump is going to do anything substantively different from what Obama is doing now.
The fact that the Russians hacked the DNC does not “make Trump a servant of Putin.” It’s the fact that 1) Trump has denied/minimized the significance of the hacks, and 2) he is reluctant to respond aggressively in kind, that makes him seem to be in Putin’s pocket.
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Also, I’m not convinced that Russia hacked the DNC. [/quote]
The entire–ENTIRE–US intelligence apparatus says the Russians did it. Every member of the Intelligence Committee (Dem and Republican alike) say they did it. Nongovernmental intelligence experts say the Russians did it. Even TRUMP has admitted (albeit reluctantly) they did it. Aside from a couple of coocoo-for-cocoa-puffs whack jobs, you are virtually alone on that side of this street.
Jesus Christ.
I’ve had enough of PWI for a while.
