2014 NFL Thread

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
Richard Sherman is Madden 15 cover guy.

Will the curse hold true this season? [/quote]
Nobody Cares.

We like to talk football here[/quote]

Since he plays for Seattle and since there’s history of guys getting hurt after making the cover, I feel it’s somewhat relevant. If he curse holds true, Seahawks fans will sure as fuck care.[/quote]

Don’t worry, he’s just upset the Cowboys have already been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. [/quote]
Lol yesterday I was working off two hours of sleep so I was grumpy.

STILL we have kept this thread over the last 5-6 years with discussions about the game. Not TMZ aspects of the game or social issues of the game.

Someone can start another thread if they want to discuss that. [/quote]

No worries. It’s all good. [/quote]
Cool.

So who is your team and why?

god damn you josh gordon, the Browns looked turrible regardless but wtf.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you josh gordon, the Browns looked turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

That sucks.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot.

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot. [/quote]

If anyone has researched his case it was a miniscule amount of thc in his system, and he would have passed had the sample bottles be labeled a-b, instead of b-a. Which makes the second hand smoke argument plausible, albeit ridiculous sounding. He would have passed the tests if he was an olympic athlete, but the nfl is much stricter on serious issues like weed, and beating up women…

The sad part for Gordon as person is that he cant be at the team facility. So he’s back with his knucklehead friends, and 0% chance he doesnt fail another drug test within the next 6months. I get not letting him play, but how about allowing the team to help him get over his issues instead of saying get lost.

back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding about “rules are rules, laws, yada yada, im morally superior to everyone” bullshit.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot. [/quote]

If anyone has researched his case it was a miniscule amount of thc in his system, and he would have passed had the sample bottles be labeled a-b, instead of b-a. Which makes the second hand smoke argument plausible, albeit ridiculous sounding. He would have passed the tests if he was an olympic athlete, but the nfl is much stricter on serious issues like weed, and beating up women…

The sad part for Gordon as person is that he cant be at the team facility. So he’s back with his knucklehead friends, and 0% chance he doesnt fail another drug test within the next 6months. I get not letting him play, but how about allowing the team to help him get over his issues instead of saying get lost.

back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding about “rules are rules, laws, yada yada, im morally superior to everyone” bullshit. [/quote]

The NFL has a legitimate interest in making sure its players have a clear head while they are football players and not adding to the fog caused by massive concussions and brain trauma.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot. [/quote]

If anyone has researched his case it was a miniscule amount of thc in his system, and he would have passed had the sample bottles be labeled a-b, instead of b-a. Which makes the second hand smoke argument plausible, albeit ridiculous sounding. He would have passed the tests if he was an olympic athlete, but the nfl is much stricter on serious issues like weed, and beating up women…

The sad part for Gordon as person is that he cant be at the team facility. So he’s back with his knucklehead friends, and 0% chance he doesnt fail another drug test within the next 6months. I get not letting him play, but how about allowing the team to help him get over his issues instead of saying get lost.

back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding about “rules are rules, laws, yada yada, im morally superior to everyone” bullshit. [/quote]

First off, no the second hand smoke ‘excuse’ does not fly even with the 15ng/dl number. Not unless he was sitting in a fucking car for hours with his bros smoking up, or being in an enclosed area with them regularly for weeks leading up to his test. That I suppose is possible, but is probably even more retarded than just smoking himself.

Secondly, sniping this from another forum:

[quote]Chris Cooley (former Redskins TE until ~2 years ago, now DC radio guy and broadcaster during games) spent some time explaining the drug policy back when Fred Davis got hit with an “indefinite suspension” sometime back in February. It really isn’t much of a anti-drug policy but more of an anti-idiot policy.

I am a little fuzzy at this point on all the details, but I believe he said that all players should know when the tests are coming because they could only test at specific times of the year (for example, you know the initial test will occur sometime in June/July) and there were policies in place for how many times they could get tested if the original test came back clean (things were different if they picked something up). So if you could simply hold off on smoking for two specific months of the year and cleared the initial drug test, you could pretty much be high as a kite the rest of the season.

Additionally he added that when someone gets tagged with one of these punishments, it isn’t for just 1 failed test, but something like a minimum 4 or 5 consecutive failures over a period of weeks. Cooley basically summed it up with you either have to have a serious problem (and need some outside help) or you are complete idiot.[/quote]

Gordon is a moron. An immensely talented moron, but a moron nonetheless. It’s not about just about ‘rules are rules’(although the rules are the rules because the NFL is a business that makes money on corporate sponsors and families buying shit, something they will lose if they are seen as ‘endorsing’ weed by not having it be against their rules while it remains illegal in federal law), but about how incredibly dumb one has to be to break some of these rules.

[quote]red04 wrote:
the NFL is a business that makes money on corporate sponsors and families buying shit, something they will lose if they are seen as ‘endorsing’ weed[/quote]

The court of public opinion does not care if gordon is a multiple offender, because all they know is that gordon got a year for weed, and ray rice got 2 games for knocking a women the fuck out. What exactly is the nfl endorsing? Nobody gives a shit about weed anymore except people with a political agenda, or someone with a stick so far up their ass theyre chewing on the handle.

really the nfl gives no shits about anything/anyone so long as theyre making money, and theyll continue to make money and give no fucks as long as there are degenerate gamblers and fantasy geeks keeping the monster going.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:
the NFL is a business that makes money on corporate sponsors and families buying shit, something they will lose if they are seen as ‘endorsing’ weed[/quote]

The court of public opinion does not care if gordon is a multiple offender, because all they know is that gordon got a year for weed, and ray rice got 2 games for knocking a women the fuck out. What exactly is the nfl endorsing? Nobody gives a shit about weed anymore except people with a political agenda, or someone with a stick so far up their ass theyre chewing on the handle.

really the nfl gives no shits about anything/anyone so long as theyre making money, and theyll continue to make money and give no fucks as long as there are degenerate gamblers and fantasy geeks keeping the monster going. [/quote]

I agree. Ray Rice should have gotten a year, if not indefinitely suspended. The state does not need the woman’s testimony to prosecute, they had the video evidence. Shame on them for not pursuing criminal charges.
Violence against women is infinitely worse than smoking weed will ever be and it should be treated accordingly. Shame on the NFL.

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot. [/quote]

If anyone has researched his case it was a miniscule amount of thc in his system, and he would have passed had the sample bottles be labeled a-b, instead of b-a. Which makes the second hand smoke argument plausible, albeit ridiculous sounding. He would have passed the tests if he was an olympic athlete, but the nfl is much stricter on serious issues like weed, and beating up women…

The sad part for Gordon as person is that he cant be at the team facility. So he’s back with his knucklehead friends, and 0% chance he doesnt fail another drug test within the next 6months. I get not letting him play, but how about allowing the team to help him get over his issues instead of saying get lost.

back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding about “rules are rules, laws, yada yada, im morally superior to everyone” bullshit. [/quote]

The NFL has a legitimate interest in making sure its players have a clear head while they are football players and not adding to the fog caused by massive concussions and brain trauma.[/quote]

I don’t buy this for a second. Smoking weed is not a player safety issue. It’s just a rule. The NFL is entitled to it’s rules, but when a player gets a year because of weed and another gets 2 games for physical assault on a woman, something in the system is broken.

I was listening on ESPN radio today as to whether the punishment fit the crime so to speak. The idea of it being the letter of the law and agreed upon by the players during the last collective bargaining agreement is true. HOWEVER, stupid rules should, could and have been changed as should this one. If Im not mistaken Gordon has passed plent of tests before, then on the other hand from what I have read you have to be incredibly stupid to fail as you know when they are coming.

Changing the subject, What do yall think about Peyton’s flag for taunting Swearinger?? While I am a huge Manning fan, and I like to see him get fired up, the double standard is pretty apparent. If a defensive player had done that to Manning they would be talking about suspending him. Plus the personal foul call on Swearinger for the hit on Welker was bullshit.

I like Manning getting the foul but I also recognize that the NFL will be terribly biased towards offensive players (see no call on Lattimer’s hit of Bethea), especially there golden boys. Its horseshit.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
god damn you [idiots in the league office, your ridiculous attempts to legislate morality look bafflingly] turrible regardless but wtf. [/quote]

Fixed it for ya
[/quote]

It’s almost like it’s still illegal in 48 states and was something the players accepted in the CBA. He’s a monumental moron. It’s not like he got popped once either. To get his suspension you have to fail numerous times(and then add in his college days…).[/quote]
Yup. When your employer tells you that you can’t smoke weed while being employed by them, then you don’t do it. The guy is making millions of dollars and he’d rather smoke weed. What an idiot. [/quote]

If anyone has researched his case it was a miniscule amount of thc in his system, and he would have passed had the sample bottles be labeled a-b, instead of b-a. Which makes the second hand smoke argument plausible, albeit ridiculous sounding. He would have passed the tests if he was an olympic athlete, but the nfl is much stricter on serious issues like weed, and beating up women…

The sad part for Gordon as person is that he cant be at the team facility. So he’s back with his knucklehead friends, and 0% chance he doesnt fail another drug test within the next 6months. I get not letting him play, but how about allowing the team to help him get over his issues instead of saying get lost.

back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding about “rules are rules, laws, yada yada, im morally superior to everyone” bullshit. [/quote]

The NFL has a legitimate interest in making sure its players have a clear head while they are football players and not adding to the fog caused by massive concussions and brain trauma.[/quote]

I don’t buy this for a second. Smoking weed is not a player safety issue. It’s just a rule. The NFL is entitled to it’s rules, but when a player gets a year because of weed and another gets 2 games for physical assault on a woman, something in the system is broken.[/quote]

Sarcasm alert! Sarcasm alert! The league pays these guys to get head injuries; the league pretending they are concerned about them smoking a little pot is just stupid.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:
the NFL is a business that makes money on corporate sponsors and families buying shit, something they will lose if they are seen as ‘endorsing’ weed[/quote]

The court of public opinion does not care if gordon is a multiple offender, because all they know is that gordon got a year for weed, and ray rice got 2 games for knocking a women the fuck out. What exactly is the nfl endorsing? Nobody gives a shit about weed anymore except people with a political agenda, or someone with a stick so far up their ass theyre chewing on the handle.

really the nfl gives no shits about anything/anyone so long as theyre making money, and theyll continue to make money and give no fucks as long as there are degenerate gamblers and fantasy geeks keeping the monster going. [/quote]

I agree. Ray Rice should have gotten a year, if not indefinitely suspended. The state does not need the woman’s testimony to prosecute, they had the video evidence. Shame on them for not pursuing criminal charges.
Violence against women is infinitely worse than smoking weed will ever be and it should be treated accordingly. Shame on the NFL.[/quote]

Didn’t she spit on him or something (as in she instegated that altercation)? Didn’t really pay much attention to the Ray Rice thing. Don’t much care. From what I read, they’re still engaged. If she can forgive him, than who is anyone else to judge? The only 2 people who know what really went down are them.

As for the drugs the union needs to do a better job protecting it’s members next time they negotiate. Testing for performance enhancers is one thing. Testing for recreational stuff is another. Guys beat the shit out of each other for a living. If getting high in the off season helps than the nfl should butt out.

I’m a little concerned the Bills will lose Marcell Darius the same way at some point.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Changing the subject, What do yall think about Peyton’s flag for taunting Swearinger?? While I am a huge Manning fan, and I like to see him get fired up, the double standard is pretty apparent. If a defensive player had done that to Manning they would be talking about suspending him. Plus the personal foul call on Swearinger for the hit on Welker was bullshit.

I like Manning getting the foul but I also recognize that the NFL will be terribly biased towards offensive players (see no call on Lattimer’s hit of Bethea), especially there golden boys. Its horseshit. [/quote]

I don’t know exactly when this trend started but QBs are definitely more protected from an officiating stand point. I don’t see this trend changing course anytime soon. It makes sense, to me anyways. Guys like Manning (Peyton and Eli), Brady, Brees, Luck are the face of the franchise.

[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Changing the subject, What do yall think about Peyton’s flag for taunting Swearinger?? While I am a huge Manning fan, and I like to see him get fired up, the double standard is pretty apparent. If a defensive player had done that to Manning they would be talking about suspending him. Plus the personal foul call on Swearinger for the hit on Welker was bullshit.

I like Manning getting the foul but I also recognize that the NFL will be terribly biased towards offensive players (see no call on Lattimer’s hit of Bethea), especially there golden boys. Its horseshit. [/quote]

I don’t know exactly when this trend started but QBs are definitely more protected from an officiating stand point. I don’t see this trend changing course anytime soon. It makes sense, to me anyways. Guys like Manning (Peyton and Eli), Brady, Brees, Luck are the face of the franchise. [/quote]

Ya, they have to cut those guys slack because a suspension would be so much more of a penalty to the team - i.e. you could suspend the best safety in the league for a couple games, and that might cost the team six points to play their back up for those 2 games. You suspend manning for a couple games, that’s gonna be a lot more than six points.

Still cost him 8 grand though. Which is plenty given that the guy he was “taunting” had just given his receiver a concussion.