2012 Presidential Election Run-Up

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Some points, Zeb:

  1. I have no idea what you are watching; but the evening news that I watch will begin with a) a headline story and b) an economic report that has included, for as long as I can remember, everything that you’ve mentioned. And no…they don’t blame it all on the President and certainly not on Bush. They report the facts, and move on.[/quote]

Yeah…CBS just reports the news and then moves on. :slight_smile: LOL

They report what they want to reort and it leans left.

You tend to see what you want. Try looking for bias. Count the number of positive Obama stories to the positive Romney stories. Do this for one full week and even you will see the bias.

No, not quite Mufasa. Ann Romney will never get that sort of attention because she’s married to a guy who could possibly replace the MSLM golden child. She’ll get minimal positive coverage. Perhaps 4 to 1 to Michelle Obama. And that is called MEDIA BIAS.

[quote]3) “The Blame Game”? Are you KIDDING?

Wow. It almost laughable (if it wasn’t so serious) of how a Romney loss (which I don’t see) is ALREADY being blamed not on his missteps; not on luke-warm Conservative support (and “lukewarm” is being generous); not on a blistering GOP Primary that painted him has a “Flip-Flopping/Plant-closing/Overseas-Job-Moving/Pro-Abortion/Liberal-in-Conservative Clothing”…and not on a Religious Right that have painted his religion as coming from Satan himself…

Even after all of this; a loss by Romney is already being blamed on the “MSLM”?[/quote]

I mentioned how the republicans fought a hard primary. But I also mentioned how the democrats did the same thing. Obama was tarnished but was allowed to shake it off and enter a fight with Bush looking pretty clean. The MSLM however never let go of the republican primary.

I will also say that Romney has had missteps of his own. But unlike a fighter in the ring who is allwed to shake off a misstep. In this fight the referee who is supposed to be unbiased keeps pushing him back down. It is OBVIOUSLY two against one with the media and Obama teaming up to make a very powerful team.

And I gave you many, many examples that you could not counter.

Middle Eastern violence…thanks for reminding me. Had Bush been the President when the Ambassador to Libya was killed he would have been blamed for weeks on the front page. And if he had tried to cover up that terrorist attack by claiming it was all because of an Internet video the MSLM would have been screaming for his impeachment. Yet I tune in to the MSLM to hear of the events of that cover up all I hear are crickets chirping.

But you don’t notice any of that do you Mufasa? Noooooo…none of that matters. In your world its a completly fair election and the media is not biased at all.

LOL One question. WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON?

Here is a peer review study that says YOU’RE WRONG BUDDY1

http://www.westernjournalism.com/ucla-professor-i-have-prooved-liberal-media-bias/

So take a look or a listen and tell me what you think Mufasa.

It might be time to open your eyes. You can be left leaning and still accept the truth for what it is.

And by the way it is so stacked against Romney because of the MSLM he’s not winning this election short of a major miracle!

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
All the people I know voting Obama are college educated and tax payers .The irony is the people I know voting Romney either work for the Government or are retired or disabled or on welfare , fucking amazing[/quote]

I would bet this is completely made up.

Thoughts?

As an aside, I’m a big fan of the breitbart site layout

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Thoughts?

As an aside, I’m a big fan of the breitbart site layout[/quote]

From what I’ve read, the whole “Dems are oversampled and Obama is really losing” argument is fairly weak. This lays out some of it: Polling Matters | Gallup Topic

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Thoughts?

As an aside, I’m a big fan of the breitbart site layout[/quote]

From what I’ve read, the whole “Dems are oversampled and Obama is really losing” argument is fairly weak. This lays out some of it: Polling Matters | Gallup Topic

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The DOJ stuff here http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/6?article=87 seems relevant to your sources opinion.

Dude works for one of the polls being bashed… Also on the suit: US Government Joins False Claims Act Lawsuit Against the Gallup Organization | OPA | Department of Justice

ANyway, pollster called for my wife the other night. She didn’t want to take it. I offered to take it instead. They refused and said they could ONLY ask her opinion. Any idea why that is?

While she is a lefty through and through she registers independent and did not vote in 2010 but did in 2008.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Thoughts?

As an aside, I’m a big fan of the breitbart site layout[/quote]

From what I’ve read, the whole “Dems are oversampled and Obama is really losing” argument is fairly weak. This lays out some of it: Polling Matters | Gallup Topic

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The DOJ stuff here http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/6?article=87 seems relevant to your sources opinion.

Dude works for one of the polls being bashed… Also on the suit: US Government Joins False Claims Act Lawsuit Against the Gallup Organization | OPA | Department of Justice

ANyway, pollster called for my wife the other night. She didn’t want to take it. I offered to take it instead. They refused and said they could ONLY ask her opinion. Any idea why that is?

While she is a lefty through and through she registers independent and did not vote in 2010 but did in 2008.

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We’ll certainly find out on Nov. 6

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Thoughts?

As an aside, I’m a big fan of the breitbart site layout[/quote]

From what I’ve read, the whole “Dems are oversampled and Obama is really losing” argument is fairly weak. This lays out some of it: Polling Matters | Gallup Topic

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The DOJ stuff here http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/6?article=87 seems relevant to your sources opinion.

Dude works for one of the polls being bashed… Also on the suit: US Government Joins False Claims Act Lawsuit Against the Gallup Organization | OPA | Department of Justice

ANyway, pollster called for my wife the other night. She didn’t want to take it. I offered to take it instead. They refused and said they could ONLY ask her opinion. Any idea why that is?

While she is a lefty through and through she registers independent and did not vote in 2010 but did in 2008.

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We’ll certainly find out on Nov. 6[/quote]

I guess my issue with the polls is: shouldn’t they all be within the margin of error of each other?

Nov can’t get here fast enough. I can’t wait for the freak out.

And there WILL be one (a “freak out”), CB, regardless as to which man wins.

Neither will win with clear majority support from the American people. Romney will not even have it from his own party.

Now…it may be that my view is skewed because of posting on a very “right-leaning” Forum such as this one; but I just think that a Romney win will lead to some disappointment among many…but an Obama win will lead to flat out anger and consternation among even more.

I would think that the only truly ecstatic people with an Obama win would be a) Conservative Pundits/Talk Radio and b) “FoxNews” Executives. (Oh…and Zeb!)

Mufasa

If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

[quote]florelius wrote:
If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :)[/quote]

There ya go man. Won’t it be like 3 am for you?

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :)[/quote]

There ya go man. Won’t it be like 3 am for you?[/quote]

Thanks a ton smh23 :slight_smile:

The time is 01:00 over here now, so pretty late haha.

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :)[/quote]

There ya go man. Won’t it be like 3 am for you?[/quote]

Thanks a ton smh23 :slight_smile:

The time is 01:00 over here now, so pretty late haha.

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hahaha good for you man, I know I wouldn’t stay awake until 3 to see this debate (let alone one from another country!)

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :)[/quote]

There ya go man. Won’t it be like 3 am for you?[/quote]

Thanks a ton smh23 :slight_smile:

The time is 01:00 over here now, so pretty late haha.

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hahaha good for you man, I know I wouldn’t stay awake until 3 to see this debate (let alone one from another country!)[/quote]

One doesn’t really have to watch the debates to know who won. If you are for Obama just tune into most of the main stream liberal media and they will tell you that he won. If you are for Romney tune into FOX, or talk radio and they will tell you that he won.

There is no more unbiased media.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
If I am not mistaken the first debate is tonight, anybody now about a good and free stream of said debate?

( If they could link it, that would be sweet )

Thanks in advance :)[/quote]

There ya go man. Won’t it be like 3 am for you?[/quote]

Thanks a ton smh23 :slight_smile:

The time is 01:00 over here now, so pretty late haha.

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hahaha good for you man, I know I wouldn’t stay awake until 3 to see this debate (let alone one from another country!)[/quote]

One doesn’t really have to watch the debates to know who won. If you are for Obama just tune into most of the main stream liberal media and they will tell you that he won. If you are for Romney tune into FOX, or talk radio and they will tell you that he won.

There is no more unbiased media.

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Agreed. Fox calls it Romney every time, MSNBC Obama.

All the more reason to watch for yourself.

I just hope I hear SOMETHING new, from either of them.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

One doesn’t really have to watch the debates to know who won. If you are for Obama just tune into most of the main stream liberal media and they will tell you that he won.
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Actually, with this debate in the bag, there seems to be some surprising agreement. Obama didn’t deliver, and Romney nailed it.

Chris Mathews compared it to the first Bush-Kerry debate, and that’s what I was thinking as well.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

I would think that the only truly ecstatic people with an Obama win would be a) Conservative Pundits/Talk Radio and b) “FoxNews” Executives. (Oh…and Zeb!)

Mufasa[/quote]

The silver lining to an Obama victory will be his likely failure to do any better than he has.

Ideals carried by the likes of the Teaparty will come to the forefront and will be embraced.

CNN made it fairly clear that Romney did something inbetween clearly winning it and holding his own.

Great post, Push!

Do you have a link?

Mufasa