[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
And while I think James’s defense is super overrated, [/quote]
Look I hate MIA as much as anyone, but I cannot ignore what my eyes keep telling me.
And that is that James is the best individual (and help defender) out there this series, and by a decent margin too.
And most of that is simply because James is the best athlete out there, and that’s by a MUCH WIDER margin. (yeah yeah I know D Wade is phenomenal too but he still aint 6’8)
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He is only elite against guys 5+ inches shorter than he is. Marion is having one of his greatest offensive series in years against Lebron. Lebron shuts down a 6’3 Derrick Rose and a 6’1 or 6’2 Jason Terry and suddenly he is the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Everything he does is overrated by the media.
[quote]kain wrote:
only a couple more hours! Somehow I’m really nervous, hope Dallas takes this game!
Fuckin time difference though, game airs at 3 in the night.
The playoffs are messing with my daily rhythm every year.[/quote]
just curious, is Dirk like a national hero over in Germany?[/quote]
not really, basketball isn’t such a big sport here.
The younger generations know him but I bet half of them can’t even tell what team he plays for.
They don’t even broadcast the games anymore.
[quote]kain wrote:
only a couple more hours! Somehow I’m really nervous, hope Dallas takes this game!
Fuckin time difference though, game airs at 3 in the night.
The playoffs are messing with my daily rhythm every year.[/quote]
just curious, is Dirk like a national hero over in Germany?[/quote]
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
And while I think James’s defense is super overrated, [/quote]
Look I hate MIA as much as anyone, but I cannot ignore what my eyes keep telling me.
And that is that James is the best individual (and help defender) out there this series, and by a decent margin too.
And most of that is simply because James is the best athlete out there, and that’s by a MUCH WIDER margin. (yeah yeah I know D Wade is phenomenal too but he still aint 6’8)
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He is only elite against guys 5+ inches shorter than he is. Marion is having one of his greatest offensive series in years against Lebron. Lebron shuts down a 6’3 Derrick Rose and a 6’1 or 6’2 Jason Terry and suddenly he is the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Everything he does is overrated by the media.
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YOu could say the same for any superstar. LeBron is just a phenomenal athlete, period. The dude can easily play 3 different positions on the court and probably even dominate on a football field with his physical stats.
[quote]overstand wrote:
He is only elite against guys 5+ inches shorter than he is. Marion is having one of his greatest offensive series in years against Lebron. Lebron shuts down a 6’3 Derrick Rose and a 6’1 or 6’2 Jason Terry and suddenly he is the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Everything he does is overrated by the media.[/quote]
Heh I think you’ve spoken well for the masses. (but who cares what the public thinks??)
The reality is that James’ unique blend of skill set and athleticism, and all on a filled-out 6’8 frame no less, gets taken for granted by this point. Its expected that he dominate every game and there’s an uproar whenever he doesn’t.
They could hand this guy the MVP every single year of his prime and I guarantee you that EVERYONE ELSE else on the All-NBA 1st Team would be 100% fine with that.
So yeah, my point: he’s the most gifted guy out there (by a mile) and now that he’s sufficiently motivated at the defensive end, he’s just a nightmare out there.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
And while I think James’s defense is super overrated, [/quote]
Look I hate MIA as much as anyone, but I cannot ignore what my eyes keep telling me.
And that is that James is the best individual (and help defender) out there this series, and by a decent margin too.
And most of that is simply because James is the best athlete out there, and that’s by a MUCH WIDER margin. (yeah yeah I know D Wade is phenomenal too but he still aint 6’8)
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He is only elite against guys 5+ inches shorter than he is. Marion is having one of his greatest offensive series in years against Lebron. Lebron shuts down a 6’3 Derrick Rose and a 6’1 or 6’2 Jason Terry and suddenly he is the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Everything he does is overrated by the media.
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Woah woah woah… Marion is having one of his best offensive series in years? He’s averaging 15.3pts per game on 50% shooting. Against OKC, one series ago, he averaged 14.2pts per game on 50% shooting.
One point per game differential, PLUS the fact that LBJ has spent time on Terry? Come on, man. Be rational.
I never said he was a bad player, he is #1 in the league and his athleticism is 1 in a billion. I just can’t stand how ‘eager’ the media is to annoint him the next MJ (or better than MJ…). They want a new golden boy so bad they will overrate him till they are blue in the face.
[quote]overstand wrote:
He is only elite against guys 5+ inches shorter than he is. Marion is having one of his greatest offensive series in years against Lebron. Lebron shuts down a 6’3 Derrick Rose and a 6’1 or 6’2 Jason Terry and suddenly he is the greatest perimeter defender of all time. Everything he does is overrated by the media.[/quote]
Heh I think you’ve spoken well for the masses. (but who cares what the public thinks??)
The reality is that James’ unique blend of skill set and athleticism, and all on a filled-out 6’8 frame no less, gets taken for granted by this point. Its expected that he dominate every game and there’s an uproar whenever he doesn’t.
They could hand this guy the MVP every single year of his prime and I guarantee you that EVERYONE ELSE else on the All-NBA 1st Team would be 100% fine with that.
So yeah, my point: he’s the most gifted guy out there (by a mile) and now that he’s sufficiently motivated at the defensive end, he’s just a nightmare out there.
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I seriously hope you’re joking. EVERYTHING James does is overblown to the point of absurdity. He throws a behind the back pass and “He’s as good a passer as Magic!!!” or gets one dunk and “He’s like Mike, maybe better!!!”. He’s having a medoicre series [by his standards] and he’s being called out for it, and rightfully so. And, Overstand is right. He’s been playing good D on shorter players with shakey jumpers by sagging off and forcing them to shoot, or in Terry’s case denying him the ball. When he plays against guys roughly his size with solid offensive games, he looks just average. The pro LeBron James hype train is unlike anything the sports world has ever seen, and it’s ridiculous.
[quote]overstand wrote:
I never said he was a bad player, he is #1 in the league and his athleticism is 1 in a billion. I just can’t stand how ‘eager’ the media is to annoint him the next MJ (or better than MJ…). They want a new golden boy so bad they will overrate him till they are blue in the face. [/quote]
What media have you been listening/watching? James has been the most hated man in america (by the media and public) since the decision. Just yesterday a guy on espn radio call him a glue guy…a fucking glue guy, he is the best basketball player in the world.
[quote]overstand wrote:
I never said he was a bad player, he is #1 in the league and his athleticism is 1 in a billion. I just can’t stand how ‘eager’ the media is to annoint him the next MJ (or better than MJ…). They want a new golden boy so bad they will overrate him till they are blue in the face. [/quote]
What media have you been listening/watching? James has been the most hated man in america (by the media and public) since the decision. Just yesterday a guy on espn radio call him a glue guy…a fucking glue guy, he is the best basketball player in the world.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure that was said tongue-in-cheek. Also, you have got to be kidding me. Do you watch ESPN? EVERYTHING they do that has anything to do with basketball starts and ends with how great James is. He’s still loved, just not as loved as he was before “the decision”.
