I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.[/quote]
I think it’s nothing more than seeing him play live and the performance he had the last couple games.
It’s no disrespect to the Bulls as it is respect for Lebron
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Lol apparently Scottie Pippen thinks LBJ may be a better overall player than MJ:
"Michael Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to play the game,? Pippen said. ?But I may go as far as to say LeBron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game because he is so potent offensively that not only can he score at will but he keeps everybody involved. You have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense. No guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score with LeBron James out there. Not only will LeBron dominate from the offensive end as well, but he?s also doing it on the defensive end which really makes him the complete package. He?s able to get in those passing lanes, shoot those gaps and create transition opportunities where he is pretty much unstoppable.?
I wonder what MJ has to say about that?
I bet WF has some thoughts regarding the matter too… lol[/quote]
Others have said it too including Larry Bird, but at this point I don’t buy it.[/quote]
Saw this earlier on yahoo or something. It’s funny that Pippen brings up James’ defense when comparing him to Jordan, seeing as Jordan was a multiple defensive player of the year award winner known for completely shutting people down when James hasn’t shut down anyone, including Derrick Rose [who shot himself in the foot by settling for shitty jumpers]. This is just more of the pro James nonsense that I don’t understand. Yeah, James is a remarkable talent. But, he gets away with so much shit on the court from traveling, carrying, offensive fouls to getting EVERY SINGLE CALL going his way that it takes away from the game. I commented on the travel for the dagger jumper, then Raj posted the Donaghey vid explaining it. If you look at all of his “game winners”, there is some kind of blatant violation that should’ve been called, but he gets away scot free and NO ONE mentions it, as Donaghey pointed it. He’s been handed everything without having to work for it, and this playoff run is more of the same: Easy Philly team, a broken up Celtics team, and a Chicago team that handed Miami the series. People like to make comparisons 'cause it keeps things interesting and we get to ask “what if?”, but trust me. There is no comparison, and Pippen should be ashamed of himself for saying this publicly.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.[/quote]
I think it’s nothing more than seeing him play live and the performance he had the last couple games.
It’s no disrespect to the Bulls as it is respect for Lebron[/quote]
Y’all do realize that Pippen is widely regarded as one of the biggest assholes in NBA history, right? The guy has made a career of being a spiteful bitch and burning bridges wherever he’s been. This is just another way for him to take jabs at his former teammate.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.[/quote]
I think it’s nothing more than seeing him play live and the performance he had the last couple games.
It’s no disrespect to the Bulls as it is respect for Lebron[/quote]
Y’all do realize that Pippen is widely regarded as one of the biggest assholes in NBA history, right? The guy has made a career of being a spiteful bitch and burning bridges wherever he’s been. This is just another way for him to take jabs at his former teammate.[/quote]
I was under the impression him and Jordan have a good relationship
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.[/quote]
He has taken shots at jordan in the past as well, in his hall of fame speech he talked about how the bulls were a team and not just one man etc etc. Him and jordan have had problems in the past I think they are cool now though.
I kinda see what he is saying, that bron could potentially be the more well rounded player as he is a better distributor and is much bigger (can guard positions 1-4). Until lebron wins at least five championships there is no argument whatsoever.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I disagree too. Why would he say it though, especially considering the circumstances with the Bulls eliminated yesterday. Does he not like Chicago, is it some pent up feelings for his former team mate? Just totally out there and not really a strong argument.[/quote]
I think it’s nothing more than seeing him play live and the performance he had the last couple games.
It’s no disrespect to the Bulls as it is respect for Lebron[/quote]
Y’all do realize that Pippen is widely regarded as one of the biggest assholes in NBA history, right? The guy has made a career of being a spiteful bitch and burning bridges wherever he’s been. This is just another way for him to take jabs at his former teammate.[/quote]
I was under the impression him and Jordan have a good relationship[/quote]
Pippen’s publicly thrown Jordan [and others] under the bus several times. He’s just a douchebag, man.
i feel lost without basketball playing tonight.
oh wait no i don’t, bruins and lightning!!!
Wanted to bring up something I’m not sure we’ve talked about since the playoffs started: The Mavs have been doing what they’re doing without Caron Butler in the lineup. I honestly thought they had no shot when he went down, and they’ve been kicking ass. I think they’re gonna beat the Heat in 6, but I’d be a lot more confident if Butler was matched up with James.
^ I remember Phil Jackson saying the Mavs were done when Butler went down in the middle of the season. I bet he’s regretting say that now.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^ I remember Phil Jackson saying the Mavs were done when Butler went down in the middle of the season. I bet he’s regretting say that now.
[/quote]
Haha, probably.
I don’t think many of Jordan’s teammates cared too much for him. I mean, they loved riding his coat tails on their way to multiple chips, but every biography I’ve ever read on the man made him out to be hated by most people. As a player Jordan was the GOAT, but as a person he sucked. My guess is Pippen and some of the other Beta males from the NBA resent the man.
no tippin pippen can suck it
[quote]Jonthefisherman wrote:
I don’t think many of Jordan’s teammates cared too much for him. I mean, they loved riding his coat tails on their way to multiple chips, but every biography I’ve ever read on the man made him out to be hated by most people. As a player Jordan was the GOAT, but as a person he sucked. My guess is Pippen and some of the other Beta males from the NBA resent the man.[/quote]
Good thing for Jordan(and a ton of other athletes) that your popularity doesn’t really matter when you are THAT GOOD. Now, if you aren’t a legend and you’re resented like that… well it’s probably because you acted like a legend but weren’t.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Lol apparently Scottie Pippen thinks LBJ may be a better overall player than MJ:
"Michael Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to play the game,? Pippen said. ?But I may go as far as to say LeBron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game because he is so potent offensively that not only can he score at will but he keeps everybody involved. You have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense. No guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score with LeBron James out there. Not only will LeBron dominate from the offensive end as well, but he?s also doing it on the defensive end which really makes him the complete package. He?s able to get in those passing lanes, shoot those gaps and create transition opportunities where he is pretty much unstoppable.?
I wonder what MJ has to say about that?
I bet WF has some thoughts regarding the matter too… lol[/quote]
Others have said it too including Larry Bird, but at this point I don’t buy it.[/quote]
Yeah, James is a remarkable talent. But, he gets away with so much shit on the court from traveling, carrying, offensive fouls to getting EVERY SINGLE CALL going his way that it takes away from the game. [/quote]
This is what my friends who are New York Knicks fans used to say about Jordan.
And that’s what I said about Kobe especially that one playoff game against Sac. hahaha
[quote]Jonthefisherman wrote:
I don’t think many of Jordan’s teammates cared too much for him. I mean, they loved riding his coat tails on their way to multiple chips, but every biography I’ve ever read on the man made him out to be hated by most people. As a player Jordan was the GOAT, but as a person he sucked. My guess is Pippen and some of the other Beta males from the NBA resent the man.[/quote]
I have concluded every professional athlete is a piece of shit, until they prove otherwise lol.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Wanted to bring up something I’m not sure we’ve talked about since the playoffs started: The Mavs have been doing what they’re doing without Caron Butler in the lineup. I honestly thought they had no shot when he went down, and they’ve been kicking ass. I think they’re gonna beat the Heat in 6, but I’d be a lot more confident if Butler was matched up with James. [/quote]
I was in the same boat. When he went down, my stomach sunk a little and I completely disregarded them from going deep into the playoffs. I wonder where they would of ended up if he hadn’t of gone down.
From what I recall Caron shut him down completely in the reg. season? LBJ was -15 to -20 or something in both games.
Some stats you might like that I found on nba.com. Since 2006, Dallas are 10-0 against Miami. During the 2010-11 season, Miami went on a 22-2 run and the only team to beat them were the Mavericks. Not worth much now for this series, just thought it was interesting.
Also regarding Pippen’s comments. Pippen is a moron. When LBJ takes his team to multiple rings and pulls off some freakish plays then we will sit down and compare him to MJ.
[quote]Teledin wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Wanted to bring up something I’m not sure we’ve talked about since the playoffs started: The Mavs have been doing what they’re doing without Caron Butler in the lineup. I honestly thought they had no shot when he went down, and they’ve been kicking ass. I think they’re gonna beat the Heat in 6, but I’d be a lot more confident if Butler was matched up with James. [/quote]
I was in the same boat. When he went down, my stomach sunk a little and I completely disregarded them from going deep into the playoffs. I wonder where they would of ended up if he hadn’t of gone down.
From what I recall Caron shut him down completely in the reg. season? LBJ was -15 to -20 or something in both games.
Some stats you might like that I found on nba.com. Since 2006, Dallas are 10-0 against Miami. During the 2010-11 season, Miami went on a 22-2 run and the only team to beat them were the Mavericks. Not worth much now for this series, just thought it was interesting.
Also regarding Pippen’s comments. Pippen is a moron. When LBJ takes his team to multiple rings and pulls off some freakish plays then we will sit down and compare him to MJ.[/quote]
Butler played against LBJ when they were 9-8. Lebron had 23pts on 5-19 with 13 freethrows. Got his points, but had to work for it. The 2nd time they played, Bron had 19pts (6-17) 10rebs and 7ast. I wouldn’t call that shutting someone down. Slowing them down, maybe. Or the new term, Caron made Lebron a “VOLUME” scorer.
I don’t take anything that Dallas did to Miami because Miami was still learning to play as a team. Also, Dirk is playing at a whole new level at this time.
I agree that LBJ isn’t anywhere close to MJ. He has to win some rings first. But LBJ has pulled off some freakish plays and even though I’m not a fan of his (I loved when SA and Orlando beat him in the playoffs), he’s probably the most gifted athlete to ever play BB. Yes, there’s Shaq and Wilt. But at 6’8, 260+ to move that fluidly and have that power is amazing. Like Barkley said, power forward that moves like a guard.
[quote]fnf wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Lol apparently Scottie Pippen thinks LBJ may be a better overall player than MJ:
"Michael Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to play the game,? Pippen said. ?But I may go as far as to say LeBron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game because he is so potent offensively that not only can he score at will but he keeps everybody involved. You have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense. No guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score with LeBron James out there. Not only will LeBron dominate from the offensive end as well, but he?s also doing it on the defensive end which really makes him the complete package. He?s able to get in those passing lanes, shoot those gaps and create transition opportunities where he is pretty much unstoppable.?
I wonder what MJ has to say about that?
I bet WF has some thoughts regarding the matter too… lol[/quote]
Others have said it too including Larry Bird, but at this point I don’t buy it.[/quote]
Yeah, James is a remarkable talent. But, he gets away with so much shit on the court from traveling, carrying, offensive fouls to getting EVERY SINGLE CALL going his way that it takes away from the game. [/quote]
This is what my friends who are New York Knicks fans used to say about Jordan.
And that’s what I said about Kobe especially that one playoff game against Sac. hahaha[/quote]
“Superstars” get superstar calls. We all get that. What James gets away with is on a whole 'nother level. It’s ridiculous.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]fnf wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Lol apparently Scottie Pippen thinks LBJ may be a better overall player than MJ:
"Michael Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to play the game,? Pippen said. ?But I may go as far as to say LeBron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game because he is so potent offensively that not only can he score at will but he keeps everybody involved. You have to be on your Ps and Qs on defense. No guy on the basketball court is not a threat to score with LeBron James out there. Not only will LeBron dominate from the offensive end as well, but he?s also doing it on the defensive end which really makes him the complete package. He?s able to get in those passing lanes, shoot those gaps and create transition opportunities where he is pretty much unstoppable.?
I wonder what MJ has to say about that?
I bet WF has some thoughts regarding the matter too… lol[/quote]
Others have said it too including Larry Bird, but at this point I don’t buy it.[/quote]
Yeah, James is a remarkable talent. But, he gets away with so much shit on the court from traveling, carrying, offensive fouls to getting EVERY SINGLE CALL going his way that it takes away from the game. [/quote]
This is what my friends who are New York Knicks fans used to say about Jordan.
And that’s what I said about Kobe especially that one playoff game against Sac. hahaha[/quote]
“Superstars” get superstar calls. We all get that. What James gets away with is on a whole 'nother level. It’s ridiculous.[/quote]
I disagree. I’ve watched BB games with groups of Sac fans and NY fans. They shouted the same things you did. I looked the other way with Jordan, but Kobe and Bron gets the same calls.
Maybe you just hate Bron so much that you notice it more. lol
By the way, you have an awesome looking Pit.