2010 NBA Playoffs

For anyone retarded enough to think the Suns have a chance in hell against the Lakers, I think this analysis says it well:

PLAYERS TO WATCH

LAKERS: Andrew Bynum
So much of this series will come down to size versus speed. If Bynum can make himself a force in the paint, produce enough offense and rebounding that the Suns will have to play something closer to a true center than Amare Stoudemire, then the Lakers’ length will have tilted the style in their favor. However, if Bynum can be contained by the likes of a Stoudemire or one of the Suns’ pseudo-big men, then it will be off to the races for Phoenix, with the Lakers likely forced to move Pau Gasol into the middle and bring Lamar Odom into the game. Bynum hardly was overwhelming at the close of the Jazz series.

SUNS: Steve Nash
While Utah’s Deron Williams might well have emerged as the game’s preeminent point guard this season, he does not play anywhere close to the pace of first-round Lakers foe Russell Westbrook, who created significant issues for the Lakers’ defense. Now the quickness game is back, which again raises questions when it comes to Derek Fisher’s ability to provide containment. While there will be plenty of support at the rim defensively for the Lakers, Nash is as good as any little man in the game when it comes to pulling up and scoring before that deterrence can become an issue. Nash set the tone against the Spurs and will have to do the same from the outset against the Lakers.

INTANGIBLES
LAKERS: While Showtime hasn’t exactly gone slow time, the Lakers are all about the halfcourt, with as many quality finishers as anyone in the league. And it’s not as if the Suns are loaded with defensive stoppers. No disrespect to Grant Hill, but don’t think that Kobe is exactly quaking about that potential defensive matchup. And who in the halfcourt has the guile to contain Gasol on the Suns’ front line? But if the Suns can push the pace, there could be another benefit. The Lakers are not particularly deep beyond Odom’s sixth-man role that has been increased due to the uncertainty surrounding Bynum. We’re not ready to say that Phil Jackson might school Alvin Gentry, but until this season, a Gentry-coached team had never won a playoff series.

SUNS: The challenge will be similar to the one against the Spurs, putting enough points on the board to try to force the opposition out of its halfcourt comfort zone. But almost every matchup will be an upgrade for the Suns from the Spurs series, save for perhaps at point guard. The competition level has stiffened in each of the first two rounds, but it still is questionable whether Phoenix is prepared for anything like this. Only now will we be able to measure whether the likes of Jason Richardson, Jared Dudley and Goran Dragic are up to the moment. Having a contributing Robin Lopez wouldn’t hurt, either.

OUTLOOK
This is no accidental matchup. Over the second half of the season, these were the two best teams in the Western Conference.

Any doubts created by the Lakers in the first round against the Thunder were quickly erased in the second round against the Jazz. Similarly, the Suns hit their stride in the second round against the Spurs, after an uneven first round against the Trail Blazers.

The question now is whether the Suns are in a just-glad-to-be-here state, whether, as odd as it sounds, the series against the Spurs created a sense of overconfidence, that no matter what the deficit, it could be overcome.

At the primary scoring positions, Kobe Bryant is a lot better than Jason Richardson. The question is whether Amare Stoudemire can outscore Pau Gasol on the front line.

It will be interesting to see if the Lakers try to throw Ron Artest’s muscle at Stoudemire at times, for a change-of-pace look, or whether the less-physical approaches of Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom will be the norm.

The Suns consistently stayed small against the Spurs. But now is a time when Robin Lopez will be needed, when Channing Frye will have to play big, and when Louis Amundson will have to be particularly active.

PREDICTION
The playoffs are all about matchups, and the Suns created advantages at just about every position against the Spurs. It is difficult to identify many, if any, edges against the Lakers beyond the one at point guard. The Lakers are close enough to a repeat that they can smell it. There isn’t much scent of an upset here. Lakers in six.

Interesting “Where’s Lebron Going Article?”

"The big issue is whether LeBron is going to make a basketball decision or one geared toward marketing, exposure and his personal life. After talking to several veteran NBA players and several club executives over the past 48 hours, it was somewhat surprising to hear that few people believe LeBron will make primarily a basketball decision. Nobody I talked to believes LeBron was humiliated by the loss to Boston. None of the players I talked to believes LeBron is motivated by winning in the same obsessive way Magic, Bird and Jordan were, or Kobe is. They believe that LeBron thinks he has years to win, and isn’t particularly pressed at the moment to do so.

A former league executive, a former coach and a current general manager all told me LeBron is one of the most spoiled and coddled players of this generation and as a result isn’t particularly accountable, as evidenced by his refusal to shake hands with the Orlando players after they whipped him in last year’s Eastern Conference finals. It’s a particularly disappointing thing to hear repeatedly because, if true, it suggests LeBron has this AAU mentality that values individual accomplishment over winning. I could live with hearing this about, say, O.J. Mayo, but LeBron James?"

lol did you write that or what? Listen okay you can do all the analysis you want but the first game of the series is going to tell you a lot.

[quote]randman wrote:
Interesting “Where’s Lebron Going Article?”

"The big issue is whether LeBron is going to make a basketball decision or one geared toward marketing, exposure and his personal life. After talking to several veteran NBA players and several club executives over the past 48 hours, it was somewhat surprising to hear that few people believe LeBron will make primarily a basketball decision. Nobody I talked to believes LeBron was humiliated by the loss to Boston. None of the players I talked to believes LeBron is motivated by winning in the same obsessive way Magic, Bird and Jordan were, or Kobe is. They believe that LeBron thinks he has years to win, and isn’t particularly pressed at the moment to do so.

A former league executive, a former coach and a current general manager all told me LeBron is one of the most spoiled and coddled players of this generation and as a result isn’t particularly accountable, as evidenced by his refusal to shake hands with the Orlando players after they whipped him in last year’s Eastern Conference finals. It’s a particularly disappointing thing to hear repeatedly because, if true, it suggests LeBron has this AAU mentality that values individual accomplishment over winning. I could live with hearing this about, say, O.J. Mayo, but LeBron James?"
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Man, if only Delonte West hadn’t fucked LeBron’s mom maybe LeBron would have got his ring this year…

Random pic: who’s your daddy

I’m taking LA hating to a another level baby

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
lol did you write that or what? Listen okay you can do all the analysis you want but the first game of the series is going to tell you a lot.[/quote]

Do you see that nice little link in my post? No, I didn’t write it. I find it amusing that you think the Suns can win this thing. Actually, I find it down right hilarious.

no the one before that, about the suns lakers analysis. theres no link there.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]randman wrote:
Interesting “Where’s Lebron Going Article?”

"The big issue is whether LeBron is going to make a basketball decision or one geared toward marketing, exposure and his personal life. After talking to several veteran NBA players and several club executives over the past 48 hours, it was somewhat surprising to hear that few people believe LeBron will make primarily a basketball decision. Nobody I talked to believes LeBron was humiliated by the loss to Boston. None of the players I talked to believes LeBron is motivated by winning in the same obsessive way Magic, Bird and Jordan were, or Kobe is. They believe that LeBron thinks he has years to win, and isn’t particularly pressed at the moment to do so.

A former league executive, a former coach and a current general manager all told me LeBron is one of the most spoiled and coddled players of this generation and as a result isn’t particularly accountable, as evidenced by his refusal to shake hands with the Orlando players after they whipped him in last year’s Eastern Conference finals. It’s a particularly disappointing thing to hear repeatedly because, if true, it suggests LeBron has this AAU mentality that values individual accomplishment over winning. I could live with hearing this about, say, O.J. Mayo, but LeBron James?"
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Man, if only Delonte West hadn’t fucked LeBron’s mom maybe LeBron would have got his ring this year…[/quote]

Would you please fucking drop that?

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]nomorewar wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
oh shit dont call it a comeback!

.greg.

EDIT: Yeah I heard that part too… announcers will say anything at any time. They are retarded [/quote]

I agree with them.

Why should the Lakers be the favorites??? [/quote]

No one said the Lakers are the favorites I just dont think saying THE LOWEST SEED left in the playoffs is the favorites during the first game of the conference finals is in any way a good call.

.greg.[/quote]

no response to this?

.greg.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]randman wrote:
Interesting “Where’s Lebron Going Article?”

"The big issue is whether LeBron is going to make a basketball decision or one geared toward marketing, exposure and his personal life. After talking to several veteran NBA players and several club executives over the past 48 hours, it was somewhat surprising to hear that few people believe LeBron will make primarily a basketball decision. Nobody I talked to believes LeBron was humiliated by the loss to Boston. None of the players I talked to believes LeBron is motivated by winning in the same obsessive way Magic, Bird and Jordan were, or Kobe is. They believe that LeBron thinks he has years to win, and isn’t particularly pressed at the moment to do so.

A former league executive, a former coach and a current general manager all told me LeBron is one of the most spoiled and coddled players of this generation and as a result isn’t particularly accountable, as evidenced by his refusal to shake hands with the Orlando players after they whipped him in last year’s Eastern Conference finals. It’s a particularly disappointing thing to hear repeatedly because, if true, it suggests LeBron has this AAU mentality that values individual accomplishment over winning. I could live with hearing this about, say, O.J. Mayo, but LeBron James?"
[/quote]

Man, if only Delonte West hadn’t fucked LeBron’s mom maybe LeBron would have got his ring this year…[/quote]

Would you please fucking drop that? [/quote]

lol didnt you get the sarcasm?

[quote]drewh wrote:
wait parade makes sense. For whatever reason I had the ring ceremony in my head.[/quote]
Alright so it’s a deal then??? Say deal and it’s on!! =D

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]nomorewar wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
oh shit dont call it a comeback!

.greg.

EDIT: Yeah I heard that part too… announcers will say anything at any time. They are retarded [/quote]

I agree with them.

Why should the Lakers be the favorites??? [/quote]

No one said the Lakers are the favorites I just dont think saying THE LOWEST SEED left in the playoffs is the favorites during the first game of the conference finals is in any way a good call.

.greg.[/quote]

no response to this?

.greg.
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Well its the playoffs so all that lowest seed highest seed stuff is pretty much out the proverbial window. Look at the Mavs, no.2 and nothing, out in the first round. The announcers calling the celts favorites maybe is fair considering they knocked off the no.1 seed in the cavs and have won the first game in the series against what some are calling the best team in the east. Its also not surprising that they would say that because the two teams left in the west, the lakers and suns have looked pretty flawed in the playoffs thus far. I know the lakers swept Utah but they barely pulled off like 2-3 games that could easily have gone the opponent’s way if it had been someone not so blatantly mismatched. Similarly the suns didnt have a good 1nd round and also barely beat the spurs in all 4 sans game 1. Its hard to explain why I think the suns will beat the lakers but i’m still holding that position.

[quote]nomorewar wrote:
“celtics are favorite to win it all”

  - ABC commentators               [/quote]

Didn’t they say that IF Bynum isn’t healthy and his knee is really slowing him down then they think the Celtics would go into the Finals as the favorite?

I want Suns vs Magic in the championships please, thank you.

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
wait parade makes sense. For whatever reason I had the ring ceremony in my head.[/quote]
Alright so it’s a deal then??? Say deal and it’s on!! =D[/quote]
Deal

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:

[quote]nomorewar wrote:
“celtics are favorite to win it all”

  - ABC commentators               [/quote]

Didn’t they say that IF Bynum isn’t healthy and his knee is really slowing him down then they think the Celtics would go into the Finals as the favorite?
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yessir

Get, I see what you’re saying but the math doesn’t always add up like that. If one team beats another by a few and another blows their matchup out means nothing when the two winners match-up. The C’s played great today and I said a couple of pages ago that they have a shot to take this series but I’m not ready to call them the favorite to win it all. Bynum’s knee is a definite issue but he hasn’t had a really productive playoffs. Last series he averaged 8 boards and 7 points. If he can keep that up and provide a big body down low then he’ll be doing all he needs against the Suns. I think the Suns present an interesting match-up for the Lakers, but I think the Lakers take 'em in 5 or 6. Also, if the C’s make it out of the East Kobe Bryant will have a monster series in the Finals and avenge '08.

The way the Celtics are playing do you guys think we can blow them out the way they did us? I don’t mean can we beat them, I mean do we have the talent and toughness now to embarrass them. We definitely have evolved since the last time we met in the finals, I’m just not sure we have what it takes to blow them out like I hope we do if we meet.

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
The way the Celtics are playing do you guys think we can blow them out the way they did us? I don’t mean can we beat them, I mean do we have the talent and toughness now to embarrass them. We definitely have evolved since the last time we met in the finals, I’m just not sure we have what it takes to blow them out like I hope we do if we meet.[/quote]

one thing is for sure, It will be the hardest team they face in the playoffs.

Drew, you gotta remember the Lakers were up really big one game and had a giant meltdown letting the C’s come back and take it. I don’t remember off the top of my head but I think that game would’ve tied the series for the Lakers, and with a dominant victory like that the momentum shifts in that teams favor.

On the flip side if you lose a lead like that and are down big in the series your momentum has basically come to a screaching halt. I think if they meet again Bryant takes it personally and has a monster series and the Lakers dominate them, taking it in 5.