[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Regarding Fish-- Yeah, he’s clutch. I’ve always maintained that it’s not so much that Kobe’s clutch, it’s that the LA Lakers as a team are clutch. Kobe on his own near the end of a close game has always been hit or miss as far as saving the team goes, IMO. But a lot of the time when he fucks up, Fish or Gasol pick up the slack and the Lakers win anyway. That whole team is clutch as a group.
Calls were still soft as fuck, but at least they were more evenly split yesterday–especially with Kobe, who was persecuted in Game 2.
Regarding Kobe’s shooting. There were a lot of forced shots, but if you look at them, especially from the third quarter, the other Lakers on the floor were just standing there not even trying to get open-- twice during the game the play-by-play dudes even mentioned that what the Lakers were doing didn’t even resemble triangle offense, they were just waiting for Kobe to do something. He didn’t have a bad game overall, I’d say.[/quote]
Fuck even Artest bailed out Kobe. I agree, Kobe is pretty clutch, but being a laker is obviously a benefit, or maybe it’s because Phil makes them Meditate or something.
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You replied to my post so quickly…it’s like you were reading it while I typed it or something.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Regarding Fish-- Yeah, he’s clutch. I’ve always maintained that it’s not so much that Kobe’s clutch, it’s that the LA Lakers as a team are clutch. Kobe on his own near the end of a close game has always been hit or miss as far as saving the team goes, IMO. But a lot of the time when he fucks up, Fish or Gasol pick up the slack and the Lakers win anyway. That whole team is clutch as a group.
Calls were still soft as fuck, but at least they were more evenly split yesterday–especially with Kobe, who was persecuted in Game 2.
Regarding Kobe’s shooting. There were a lot of forced shots, but if you look at them, especially from the third quarter, the other Lakers on the floor were just standing there not even trying to get open-- twice during the game the play-by-play dudes even mentioned that what the Lakers were doing didn’t even resemble triangle offense, they were just waiting for Kobe to do something. He didn’t have a bad game overall, I’d say.[/quote]
Fuck even Artest bailed out Kobe. I agree, Kobe is pretty clutch, but being a laker is obviously a benefit, or maybe it’s because Phil makes them Meditate or something.
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You replied to my post so quickly…it’s like you were reading it while I typed it or something.[/quote]
ESPN dude, it’s like sports in spanish or something.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Regarding Fish-- Yeah, he’s clutch. I’ve always maintained that it’s not so much that Kobe’s clutch, it’s that the LA Lakers as a team are clutch. Kobe on his own near the end of a close game has always been hit or miss as far as saving the team goes, IMO. But a lot of the time when he fucks up, Fish or Gasol pick up the slack and the Lakers win anyway. That whole team is clutch as a group. EDIT: I guess a big part of that is in a clutch scenario Kobe attracts double teams/extra coverage, but those other dudes still step it up.
Calls were still soft as fuck, but at least they were more evenly split yesterday–especially with Kobe, who was persecuted in Game 2.
Regarding Kobe’s shooting. There were a lot of forced shots, but if you look at them, especially from the third quarter, the other Lakers on the floor were just standing there not even trying to get open-- twice during the game the play-by-play dudes even mentioned that what the Lakers were doing didn’t even resemble triangle offense, they were just waiting for Kobe to do something. He didn’t have a bad game overall, I’d say.[/quote]
You made a lot of good points. Kobe is Mr. Clutch. No argument there. However, on occasion he still misses shots/takes bad shots towards the end of the game. But you need to look at why. Yes, sometimes he simply just makes a bad choice. But often times, it’s what you mentioned. The other players either pass it to him when the shot clock is about to expire and he has to heave up a shot or the other players are standing around, not getting open, and not making their own shots.
Even when Kobe has the rare game he doesn’t step up in the clutch, there is another key player or two on the Lakers that have the uncanny ability to step up when he can’t. You are right, the Lakers team is clutch. That’s called championship experience. They have it now. It’s a thing o beauty to watch.
And don’t forget that Kobe did carry the load in the second and third quarters and made some pretty difficult shots. I had no problem with his game last night. I wish he made a few more shots but I can live with that when it’s coming from the Kobster. You live and die with your superstar and for the most part we thrive with this one.
One more thing, the brilliance of Phil Jackson using Kobe in a reverse pick and roll situation for Derek Fisher to get free for those drives at the end of the game.
Kobe was the one setting the picks on Rondo and his man did not want to leave him which freed up Fisher to make those drives to the hoop. Brilliant piece of coaching on Jackson’s part and again another way Kobe helps beat the other team other than the obvious stats he puts up.
I do not look forward to the day when Coach Jackson retires. He’s practically irreplaceable and is worth every penny the Lakers are paying him.
hahahaha did anyone else watch Sports Nation on ESPN and see the piece early on with Bill Simmons where he talked about who he hated? Oh man it was one of the funniest things I’ve seen on ESPN in a long time. The part about Tom Brady was hilarious.
I love Sports Nation by the way. There is something about Michelle Beadle. I have a major crush on her. She’s kinda hot but what makes her wicked hot (to me) is that I really like her personality and she knows a crap load about sports and has an opinion on just about everything that I agree with. Did I mention I have a crush on her?
[quote]randman wrote:
How come know one here has really reflected on Derek Fisher’s play (especially Laker fans)? Dude, this guy is such a leader, clutch player, gets no love from Laker fans most of the season, yet continues to come through in the biggest post season moments when the most critical games are in the balance waiting to be tipped one way or the other.
This guy is such a class act. Yes, I’ve cursed him a few times to for being too slow and fast guards beating him or missing too many shots or getting too old but he always delivers in the biggest moments and more than makes up for it.
Plainly spoken, without DFish in the 4th quarter of last night’s game, the Lakers lose. He was outstanding. Never mind how much better he stuck to Ray Allen the whole game. If you were watching this closely, he did a much better job fighting through screens and sticking with him. He did it on both ends of the floor.
What more can be said about this guy? He will hold a special place in the Lakers long history of championship success.[/quote]
Coulda sworn about halfway through the first thread I wrote that Fisher’s gonna be the hardest guy to replace…
[quote]randman wrote:
How come know one here has really reflected on Derek Fisher’s play (especially Laker fans)? Dude, this guy is such a leader, clutch player, gets no love from Laker fans most of the season, yet continues to come through in the biggest post season moments when the most critical games are in the balance waiting to be tipped one way or the other.
This guy is such a class act. Yes, I’ve cursed him a few times to for being too slow and fast guards beating him or missing too many shots or getting too old but he always delivers in the biggest moments and more than makes up for it.
Plainly spoken, without DFish in the 4th quarter of last night’s game, the Lakers lose. He was outstanding. Never mind how much better he stuck to Ray Allen the whole game. If you were watching this closely, he did a much better job fighting through screens and sticking with him. He did it on both ends of the floor.
What more can be said about this guy? He will hold a special place in the Lakers long history of championship success.[/quote]
Coulda sworn about halfway through the first thread I wrote that Fisher’s gonna be the hardest guy to replace…[/quote]
Not good enough! I’m looking for an Ode or a Poem of some sort! Respect his authoritie!
[quote]randman wrote:
How come know one here has really reflected on Derek Fisher’s play (especially Laker fans)? Dude, this guy is such a leader, clutch player, gets no love from Laker fans most of the season, yet continues to come through in the biggest post season moments when the most critical games are in the balance waiting to be tipped one way or the other.
This guy is such a class act. Yes, I’ve cursed him a few times to for being too slow and fast guards beating him or missing too many shots or getting too old but he always delivers in the biggest moments and more than makes up for it.
Plainly spoken, without DFish in the 4th quarter of last night’s game, the Lakers lose. He was outstanding. Never mind how much better he stuck to Ray Allen the whole game. If you were watching this closely, he did a much better job fighting through screens and sticking with him. He did it on both ends of the floor.
What more can be said about this guy? He will hold a special place in the Lakers long history of championship success.[/quote]
Coulda sworn about halfway through the first thread I wrote that Fisher’s gonna be the hardest guy to replace…[/quote]
Not good enough! I’m looking for an Ode or a Poem of some sort! Respect his authoritie![/quote]
[quote]randman wrote:
How come know one here has really reflected on Derek Fisher’s play (especially Laker fans)? Dude, this guy is such a leader, clutch player, gets no love from Laker fans most of the season, yet continues to come through in the biggest post season moments when the most critical games are in the balance waiting to be tipped one way or the other.
This guy is such a class act. Yes, I’ve cursed him a few times to for being too slow and fast guards beating him or missing too many shots or getting too old but he always delivers in the biggest moments and more than makes up for it.
Plainly spoken, without DFish in the 4th quarter of last night’s game, the Lakers lose. He was outstanding. Never mind how much better he stuck to Ray Allen the whole game. If you were watching this closely, he did a much better job fighting through screens and sticking with him. He did it on both ends of the floor.
What more can be said about this guy? He will hold a special place in the Lakers long history of championship success.[/quote]
Coulda sworn about halfway through the first thread I wrote that Fisher’s gonna be the hardest guy to replace…[/quote]
Not good enough! I’m looking for an Ode or a Poem of some sort! Respect his authoritie![/quote]
Now Doc Rivers is bitching again about the refereeing. He’s sending tape to the league office about Derek Fisher’s illegal screens/flopping. This is rich. This is real rich.
There have been so many bad calls both ways it’s not even funny
The Celts could easily be called for a lot more illegal screens AND Most Importantly
The Celts are the biggest bunch of freakin whiners ever. They act like a bunch of bullies until a team matches their intensity and beats them at their own game and then they freakin whine like babies.
Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, Doc Rivers, etc. It’s pathetic.
[quote]randman wrote:
The only concern I have really is Bynum. He has given us such critical minutes in this series. If he can’t go for Game 4, it’s even more imperative that Odom step up.[/quote]
Obviously Bryant gets the MVP if LAL wins, but I honestly think THE KEY to this series so far has been Bynum.
I’m not at all sure LAL wins this series without him (and granted it’s still far from over), and it does kinda make one wonder if 2008 might’ve unfolded differently…
There are SOOOO many calls that don’t get made in any given game, and he’s going to try to get them to review the tape to see all the calls they didn’t make??
There were several 3 second violations in that game, moving screens, fouls, ect… Doc Rivers is an idiot, seems like he wants the officials to keep calling the games the way they’ve been calling them in the first and second games.
yeah they just said on Sports Nation that Doc Rivers sent in a tape to the officals of missed calls on moving screens that werent called… Laaaaaame. Do you guys think that he’ll get fined for that? Pretty much blatantly calling the refs out for missing calls? Undermining them?
